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Acura TSX vs Lexus IS 250

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  • that was my previous car -99 EX manual. Really fun to drive for a family sedan.
  • I too am considering either the '06 TSX or the IS 250 automatic RWD. Did you get the navi on the TSX for the $27K?
  • sosksosk Posts: 42
    We drove the Lexus today & will drive the TRX this weekend. I know the HP is the same, but I'm a bit concerned about the TRX's 4 cylinders. I've been told to stay away from 4-cylinder cars. Can anyone tell me how they compare as far as getting onto the highway & passing on the highway? I tend to keep my cars for a good 10-12 years, so I don't mind paying the extra if the Lexus is going to perform better. Thanks for any guidance!!
  • If you're talking about the TSX, passing on the freeway is no problem whatsoever. The car has plenty of free-revving poop, to the tune of 205 hp. I'm not sure who told you to stay away from four bangers, but this is a ridiculous statement. Todays four cylinder engines are better than they've ever been. The TSX's I4 arrives out of the box in a high state of tune. Go drive one. Then compare it to the IS250.

    Whether or not the Lexus performs better is better left up to others to determine. I do know the TSX is an excellent package, now loaded with all manner of electronic goodies.

    Good luck with your decision.
  • Just bought the TSX, and did both look at and drive the IS 250. Both great cars, but the TSX delivered more driving fun and bigger bang for the buck IMO. I also think's it's better looking, but that's more subjective. The 250 back seat is a joke - by the time I fit comfortably in the driver's seat, only a kid a in a car seat would have been able to sit behind me. And after all, if your driving a sedan, the back seat matters.

    The Honda K24 iVTEC is one of the world's best engines. 10-12 years would be a walk in the park.
  • Actually its because I have a time trial bike (tour de france) that has a disc wheel in the back that will not work with roof mounted racks.

    Simple. Just use a regular wheel on the bike when transporting on the rack and store the disc wheel in the trunk. I suppose any trunk should be OK for just a wheel.
  • dc_davedc_dave Posts: 51
    Yes, that is an option but I would also like to put the bike inside in case of bad weather when transporting bike. I just test drove the 06 TSX and loved it. The seats fold down almost totally flat. The car is very tight and fun to drive. Best part is that I can get the car + destination for only $26,550. At least 5K under the IS 250. Heck, I can go buy another bike with the savings...I'm glad my wife does not read these boards. :P

    Dave in VA
  • No Navi on mine. But love the Bluetooth, works great with my Treo.
  • sosksosk Posts: 42
    Can someone please educate me? If 2 cars each have 205 horsepower, but 1 is a 4-cylinder & the other is a 6-cylinder, how does their acceleration compare to each other? The cars are about the same size & weight, if that matters. Thanks!
  • Although both cars have the same HP, the IS250 has more torque (185 vs. 164 ft-lbs). The 20 extra ft-lbs of torque do make a difference. My son has a 2004 TSX, and I drove the IS250 at the Taste of Lexus last fall. The Lexus did indeed feel more powerful.

    However, the IS is overpriced, and the TSX is a better value at thousands less, and it handles just as well (as far as I could tell during the short time I was able to drive the IS). Plus the IS250 has the cramped back seat.

    I would also recommend the Infiniti G35 for the same price as the IS250. Note that the G35 will have a design change for 2007 (to be unveiled at the New York Auto Show in April). If you decide on a G35, suggest waiting until after the the NY Auto Show to see if you will like the new model better, although you probably won't be able to get a decent price on the 2007 model until at least spring 2007.
  • sosksosk Posts: 42
    Thanks, ninjaguy!

    So are you saying it's the torque that makes the IS faster? Does the number of cylinders have nothing to do with it? Pardon my ignorance!

    The cramped backseat of the IS250 isn't a problem for me - I use the backseat rarely, and usually only to transport my dogs! I drove the G35 - I thought the backseat was much smaller in it, and I got a lot of outside noise (maybe it was just the one I was in).

    I know the TSX is getting a new look for '07, so I'm thinking of waiting until I can see it. I'm in no hurry at this point. Maybe by early summer the Lexus can be had for less than sticker.

    I'm looking for small but nice, as I tend to keep my cars for a good 10 years. It seems like every year "they" add a few inches to all the cars I like. I'm having a hard time finding something no longer than the TSX that is fun, peppy & a bit luxurious.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    The IS may have more peak TQ, but until we see a graph showing the full-range power delivery, no conclusions about it being more "powerful" than the TSX can be made.

    Also, don't forget the IS weighs 200 lbs more than the TSX.
  • johnny420johnny420 Posts: 473
    The TSX's full model change is slated for model year 2008, not 2007. Still, that's less than two calendar years away.

    And if you're having trouble finding a car "no longer than the TSX that is fun, peppy & a bit luxurious," then try the TSX itself. It fits that description perfectly. :P
  • sosksosk Posts: 42
    Thanks, johnny420. I DID try the TSX and for the most part I liked it a lot. I liked that it came loaded with everything I wanted at a nice price, but I felt that the interior of the IS was nicer. I don't like that the 2 Acura dealerships are so far away, tho! And I guess I'm a little nervous about getting on the freeways in a 4-cylinder car.
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    And I guess I'm a little nervous about getting on the freeways in a 4-cylinder car.

    That's gotta be one of the more ignorant remarks I've read. Who brainwashed you into that opinion? Would you feel more comfortable if it was a 16 cyl car? :mad:

    The number of cyclinders in a car should no difference what so ever - just ask yourself during a test drive if its performance is adequate for your needs. Would it make you feel better if I told you that the 30-50mph roll on acceleration (something you need on the highway) is better in the TSX than the IS? But for the not so grippy OEM tires on the TSX virtually all performance numbers for the TSX would be better than the IS.

    Buy the IS for its better interior, better badge, for its looks but for gosh sakes not because it has two more cylinders.

    P.S. You can have routine work done at a Honda dealer on your TSX.
  • sosksosk Posts: 42
    That's gotta be one of the more ignorant remarks I've read.

    Excuse my ignorance, biker4 - I've been told by several people, here and there & over the years, to avoid 4-cylinder cars. And while recently researching the '06 TSX & the '06 IS, I stumbled across a TSX-owner who said he wished he'd spent the extra money on the IS because he felt the TSX was a bit sluggish.

    Please don't blast me for not knowing much about cars. I have no one to turn to & thought I could write here for guidance.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Yes indeedy, you can get guidance here. Sometimes folks are a little quick to misunderstand - and jump at people - but usually they mean no harm, they just forget that not everyone has the automotive background they do. Please feel free to ask any questions you have. Someone here will try to help, I'm sure of it.
  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 853
    I test drove the TSX automatic and it has plenty of power. I will not deny that a 6 will have generally more power than a 4 but it would not sway me from buying a 4. The TSX has more than enough power for every day driving. The new generation of 4-cylinder engines with 2.0 liters and above have very adequate power and in almost every case get much better mpg too.
  • sosksosk Posts: 42
    Thank you, fredvh, for your comments & info. And thank you very much for not belittling me for my question!
  • Just to throw my hat in the debate. You can't just look at the number of cylinders, you have to pay attention to the size and weight of the car and how well the engine is suited to the car. I can tell you personally about two cars that I've owned where you could not just go on the number of cylinders in the car. My Audi A4 1.8T, while it has a tiny 4cyl engine and modest horsepower has great acceleration because of the turbo. My old Mazda Millenia had a 2.5L V6 and the car was so heavy that little old ladies with walkers were passing me. Could the Lexus be quicker of the line?, maybe. But I can tell you that the TSX has enough horsepower when it needs it. It is no dog, nor it will leave you feeling that you have to get out and push to make it go faster. I think the TSX has the right balance of handling, power and luxury plus it is a tremendous bargain. No knock on the Lexus, but I will not buy JUST BECAUSE it has 6 cylinders.
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