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BMW CPO Warranty and Warranty Extension questions

drollydrolly Posts: 32
edited March 7 in BMW
With anybody who has read my posts in the last month or so, I'm looking at a Certified 2004 325i with 30k miles on it. With the car, there is a CPO which kicks in after the original 4yr/50k plan which is a bumper to bumper with a $50 deductible. However, BMW also offers an extension of the original 4yr/50k to 6yr/100k for $1395 which would cover everything except for gas and tires.

Now, a couple of questions. First of all, does it even make sense for me to look at Certified cars if I'm planning on buying the warranty extension anyway? Second, is this warranty extension even available for me? When talking to the sales rep with the aforementioned car, they have never said it wasn't available, even quoting me prices WITH the extension. However, if I go to BMW's website, it states that "If you’re the original owner of your BMW, you can extend your service contract...." I'm obviously not the original owner, so does anybody know if this is even available to me??

Thanks!
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  • Two different items..

    The CPO warranty, which kicks in when the original 4/50 warranty expires is for repairs of warranted items.. It mimics the same extended warranty that an original owner can purchase for his car. The cost of this warranty to an original owner is around $2300.

    The $1395 that you were quoted? (marked up a couple hundred, BTW) This is an extension of the maintenance plan. This pays for oil changes, brakes, inspections, etc.. Any one can buy this, whether original owner or not.

    Clear as mud?

    regards,
    kyfdx

    Moderator - Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • drollydrolly Posts: 32
    Well, $1395 quoted originally, down to $895 once negotiations commenced.

    Thanks for the info and yes that does clear it up. Not really how it was explained to me by the dealer. Basically the dealer explained it as "everything included in the 4yr/50k extended to 6yr/100k." But your explanation makes more sense once its pieced together.
  • The dealer is correct... but, just regarding the maintenance extension.. The coverage is identical to the original maintenance plan..

    Of course, the CPO warranty is less comprehensive than the original 4/50 warranty and has the $50 deductible.

    Good luck!

    kyfdx

    Moderator - Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    Hi kyfdx,

    I know the BMW CPO warranty coverage begins when the original factory warranty expires, either at 4 years or 50K miles, whichever comes first.

    Is the CPO coverage intended to provide a full 6-yrs and 100K of warranty coverage, regardless of when the original warranty expires? In other words, is it possible for the CPO warranty to extend beyond a 2-year period if the car reaches 50k miles long before it is 4 years old?

    Or, is the CPO warranty coverage limited to a time period of two years max?

    TIA!!
  • Yes... 6 years from original in-service date, or 100K total vehicle miles, whichever comes first... and, regardless of when the original warranty expired, and regardless of whether it expired for mileage or time..

    In other words, once you are out of the original warranty period, they check for 6yr/100K from original date.. nothing else matters..

    regards,
    kyfdx

    Moderator - Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • ytsejamytsejam Posts: 11
    This is flatly wrong. The CPO warranty only kicks in after the original factory warranty expires. If you think you will be able to drive 25K miles each of the first two years of ownership, and then take it easy for the next 4 years and be covered by the CPO warranty, prepare for a surprise. The extended CPO warranty will remain in effect for 24 months or 50K miles from the expiration of the factory warranty (whichever comes sooner); it does not take over, but rather add to it.

    Look here; nowhere does it mention anything about 6 years from original in-service date.
  • ytsejamytsejam Posts: 11
    This is flatly wrong. The CPO warranty only kicks in after the original factory warranty expires. If you think you will be able to drive 25K miles each of the first two years of ownership, and then take it easy for the next 4 years and be covered by the CPO warranty, prepare for a surprise. The extended CPO warranty will remain in effect for 24 months or 50K miles from the expiration of the factory warranty (whichever comes sooner); it does not take over, but rather add to it.

    Look here; nowhere does it mention anything about 6 years from original in-service date.
  • kyfdx@Edmundskyfdx@Edmunds Posts: 25,968
    Sorry... but you are mistaken...

    The 6yr/100K warranty expiration is from the original in-service date.. no matter how quickly you get the first 50K miles..

    I realize it doesn't read exactly that way, but if you pull up the vehicle history report on any CPO BMW, you will see that I'm correct. The expiration is always 6 years from the original in-service date.

    regards,
    kyfdx

    Moderator - Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • ytsejamytsejam Posts: 11
    Do you own a CPO BMW? If not, what makes you so sure? I bought a CPO car from a dealer last night, so believe me - I found that out.

    Vehicle history reports (I assume you mean CarFax) are absolutely meaningless when it comes to determining when the CPO warranty expires.
  • ytsejamytsejam Posts: 11
    Let me clarify my point. The last question was referring to the duration of CPO warranty after your factory warranty runs out. If you drive out of the factory coverage before the first four years expire, the CPO coverage will NOT make up for that, i.e. it will not go past two years after the factory warranty runs out, even if you don't reach the total of 100K miles on the car. Thus, it is possible for the car to be less than 6 years old and have less 100K miles on it, yet no longer be covered by the CPO warranty.
  • kyfdx@Edmundskyfdx@Edmunds Posts: 25,968
    Actually... the warranty lasts the full six years from the original in-service date, no matter when the miles are put on... as long as you stay under 100K total..

    In your example... how would the dealer know what date you exceeded 50K miles? Unless you had a warranty issue, you could get your car serviced elsewhere and they wouldn't have a clue.

    Vehicle history report? You get it from your BMW service advisor. Ask for yours.. you'll see right on the history report when it says your CPO warranty expires.

    I know how the verbiage reads... but, in practice, that is not how it works.. 6yr/100K from the original in-service date.. Check with your service advisor.

    regards,
    kyfdx

    Moderator - Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • ytsejamytsejam Posts: 11
    Well, that is *if* you don't get your maintenance done at the dealership. Some people always bring their cars to the dealer for service - for different reasons. If you need an oil change on a 3 year old CPO car that has 50K on it already and you bring it to the dealer, I'm pretty sure they'll point that fact out later on when you take it there for warranty service thinking it's still under the CPO warranty b/c it doesn't have 100K miles on it, or not yet 6 years old.

    As for vehicle history reports - are you referring to the CARFAX data? If so, here's one for a CPO car - can you tell from looking at it when the CPO warranty runs out???

    Just out of curiousity - are you a BMW owner or somehow affiliated with them to make such confident statements without qualifying them?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Actually, kyfdx (the host of our Prices Paid Forum) is a BMW owner and is one of the most knowledgeable Bimmer owners we have in our community. He knows his stuff, I assure you.
  • ytsejamytsejam Posts: 11
    You are off the subject. No offense, but do you have anything relevant to add to this discussion, specifically regarding my last comment?
  • kyfdx@Edmundskyfdx@Edmunds Posts: 25,968
    Not Carfax..

    They come from BMW.. Your service advisor can pull the one for your car.. It lists the warranty expiration date for your car.. Ask your service advisor for it.. You'll see your warranty expiration date. It will be exactly six years from the in-service date..

    I used the service at a place other than the dealer as an example.. to show that they don't know what date you hit 50K miles.. (they don't care, either.. which is really my point).

    Yes.. I'm a BMW owner.. 3 times over..

    I'm sorry I can't show you my credentials... If you do enough searching on this issue, you'll find the correct answer... if that is indeed what you desire.. Ask you service advisor for your BMW vehicle history report. It shows the complete sales and service history of your BMW. It is a must see for a purchaser of a used BMW.

    Good luck,
    kyfdx

    Moderator - Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Hey there, friend. Folks are just trying to help you out here. Might want to lighten up a bit. We're all in this together! :)
  • txbmwfantxbmwfan Posts: 27
    Unequivocably, the CPO warranty of 6 years/100K mi begins with the original in-service date. The in-service date is same as the production date (which can be earlier than original owner purchase date). This is uncontroverted FACT.

    As noted previously, the in-service date is available at a BMW dealer based on VIN#. It is not possible to have a CPO car out of warranty earlier than 6 years or 100K mi of in-service date. The original mfg. warranty is 4 years/50K (from in-service date). The CPO simply extends the original warranty by 2 years/50K mi (from in-service date) to a total of 6 years/100K mi (from in-service date).

    By way of example, I have a 2004 325i bought new with an in-service date of March 2004 (purchased new in April 2004). The original 4 yr/50K warranty runs through the earlier of March 2008 or 50K mi. I can purchase the same coverage as CPO plan with the Original Owner's Protection Plan, which would extend my warranty to a total of 6 years/100K mi (from in-service date). For me, the plan would extend my coverage to the earlier of March 2010 or 100K mi.

    It is a simple as that.
  • samjaeysamjaey Posts: 2
    I have looked everywhere but have not been able to find out what the answer to this is.

    I would like to know what the dealer's cost is for an extended maintenance on a 06-07 3-series. Specifically I have a 06 325i which I would like to extended maintenance on and I have been offered between 1295-1395. It seems like everyone thinks they are doing me a favor by offering it for that price, however seems like this is with a sizeable profit. What is the true cost and what is a reasonable offer? Thanks!
  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    I don't know the dealer cost, but I can suggest a dealership.

    Several weeks ago I did a search for the lowest price for the extended maintenance contract on an '05 325i.

    Try a Google search of Nalley BMW, and call/email their internet department. At the time, they were offering a contract for my car at $945. (Note: I ended up purchasing from my local dealer for $995.)
  • zzb1zzb1 Posts: 3
    ...has 46000 miles, 1 owner. Asking price 28995. Is this too many miles for a CPO to get get a good value? Thanks
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