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Never heard of it. I think the guy is trying to scare you into letting him do the work. I would be looking for a junkyard trans which ought to work great considering how old they are. Maybe he is on the level but I doubt it. Youre call but Id let it run.
Where I am I'll need 4x4 in Winter 80 % of the time and the Echo would be used at all other times. I want manual transmission and air. I'd love the Canadian hatchback if I could get it.
Are there any real deals on them ?
The local car dealer in NH autofair Toyota doesn't even sell them any more. There are about 8 of them (or so on EBAY), and a ton on cars.com
Any comments observations, ...
I'm driving 106 miles per day, 20 miles at 40 MPH, 33 miles at 60 to 80 MPH.
I like the 15" tires, remembering the tiny tires on the '87 toyota corolla fx that were always getting dinged.
By the way, I have a 1200' drive which is why I need 4x4 in winter. Not withstanding that, I learned "how to drive in snow" with the '87 Corolla but I also learned how to walk up 1200' on ice.
Cant advise on the best place to buy one. There are a lot of them going for $$$$less than they are worth but you might have to travel to get one of thiose. Worth it in my opinion. Good luck and tell us what happens!
It may take some time for all this to happen.
Was it all on the level or any hills ?
Was it going through 10" of new snow with no existing ruts ?
I'm asking because I have 1200' of all up hill driveway to go up and what you are saying is pretty encouraging.
The Echo has more ground clearance and the Michelin MX4 all seasons are grippy enough for city driving in the Canadian winter. I drove through the mess left by the snowplow at the end of my driveway which was at least a foot of wet muck no problem. I drove through ruts and stopped at several intersections on an uphill grade where I would have been left stuck my old Civic with less ground clearance.
I feel the car is safe and stable enough with the stock all seasons to drive through the miserable winters we get up here in Ontario.
Plus I like the restyled model which was done as of '03 - looks less "unique."
Ross
Ross
I opened the froant bonet but i dont see any tank where i fill the water.
Can anyone help me with this problem.
I dont have a car manual.
thanks
After you take into account all the other electrical equipment it has to operate, the alternator would have barely 200 watts left over for a heater, if that. Which wont make much heat. Why your car has heat so fast is a mystery to me also. Maybe you could test for an electric heater by turning on the ignition without starting the engine with the heat and blower on. If it blows hot air...maybe there IS an electric heater.
Ross
I'm always of two minds.
One want's somehthing that gets
good MPG the other is actually
getting home. I drive a Tacoma
4x4 to work and it seems to get
me home. Years ago I moved to
rural NH and learned to drive
in an appropriate manner in
a Toyota Corolla FX '87. Sadly
it was lacking in power and I often
couldn't get it up my driveway.
A VW TDI '99 had the same fate.
The FX went to my brother and the VW
was sold because although it got a
solid 45 MPG it was would was always in
the shop.
With gas prices at $2 I'm paying
something like $200/month !!!!
I have a '93 Totota & a '00 Tacoma now.
I'm thinking of replacing the '00 with
an Echo, and use the '93 to plow.
lexi4life, "2006 Toyota Echo" #1, 13 Sep 2004 8:45 pm
Ross
Does anyone else have an auto transmission shifter that is stiff to move into reverse especially on cold mornings? I'm a big guy with muscles and it's tough to move some mornings-my wife needs two hands to shift it. The dealer says there is nothing to lubricate on the shift mechanism and of couse when they tried it the car was partly warmed up.
Also, should I even have bought a K&N. I see a lot of reviews supporting it and a few that don't.
Moat of the time when you're driving, the bottleneck is the throttle plate. At full throttle, the biggest restriction ends up being the intake piping itself. On the ECHO, I think it makes at least 2 turns on the way to the engine. So don't be surprised if you don't see any performance or fuel economy improvement; the ECHO is already well-tuned for that.
It can be nice to have a re-usable air filter though, since the paper filters aren't that cheap (not as cheap as I remember them being for other cars!)
As for installing the air filter, look at this posting I made awhile back:
slugline, "Toyota Echo (Sedans Board)" #2817, 11 Feb 2002 1:18 am
But I'll have to see in a year or 2 how the Echo is doing before making a determination on longevity.
We bought a 2003 2dr toyota echo.
Fell in love with it the first time I saw it.
It has power nothing, but I dont care.(not even power steering!)
The thing is, friends with SUVs and other big cars have been scaring me over and over about echo being small and how I can be in danger on the road!
I will be using the car in New Jersey..
Any NJ echo owners, feel free to write back with your experiences.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks much.
Those people threatening you about how small your ECHO is are not your friends.
Thanks for writing back.
The ECHO we bought was from a used car delaer, he said it was ordered with no power steering by the previous owner...
It has about 34000 miles on it...
Will it be difficult to drive one without power steering?
And those who said ECHO's are not good dont get a joyride in my car!!
The Kia Rio was the only small car listed, but that's a Kia.
There were a number of Toyota vehicles on the safe list so I trust the brand to be safe across the board.
Obviously if the ECHO were up against a Semi I'd be worried but against other vehicles I'm not.
This was the only used ECHO I found to not have power steering out of about 20 listings.
Also, dont count on the ECHO to help you in a crash. Youre kidding yourself if you think its going to protect you like a larger car. You need to avoid an accident in the first place.