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Mercedes-Benz C-Class Sedans

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  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,846
    Is anyone out there participating either in a formal or informal "car-sharing" deal? I'm looking for folks (other than spouses) who co-own luxury vehicles. If you fit the bill, or know someone who does, I'm hoping you'll contact me by Wednesday, March 6 with your contact information, the type of vehicle you share, and your city and state of residence. Thanks much!
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  • rbrenton88rbrenton88 Posts: 186
    with another family led to enough bickering. I can't imagine having to co-own a car with anyone.
  • nankynanky Posts: 75
    Mikki,

    Likewise, I haven't posted in a while. The tone on the forum has shifted a bit and although I sympathize with all the reported problems, I have been fortunate enough to have ended up with an awesome car. I heeded the advice of my service counsellor, despite the very enlightening exchanges that took place on the forum earlier, and did not change the oil early. The A service was performed at 12,500 miles at which time the computer still showed 200 miles to go. Prior to that, my service folks told me they would perform the service within 1,200 miles of what the computer recommended. Just didn't have time to take it in earlier. At some point, I thought I had a problem with the mirrors only to realize it was self inflicted. I was releasing the seat position button a second too soon after the seat returned to my position thereby not allowing the passenger side mirror to fully adjust. Since I figured that out, it's been flawless.

    The sibling is awesome!! I find myself easing off the gas pedal quite a bit because it closes up on other cars very quickly. I am still glad I chose the Obsidian.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    ...which is awesomely complicated at best, is indeed installable only at the factory.

    MB has hired Nokia to help them redesign the notoriously complex COMAND interface so ordinary mortals can use the system without a 5 lb owner's manual. The MB engineers, who are inordinately proud of their creation, have taken notable offense, but management decided they needed some help from a company that has a rep for keeping it understandable and intuitive. I forget the target date for the redesign, but it should be in the next couple of model years.

    The system is simply too complex, and interfaces with too many of the car's subsystems, to be trusted to be installed at the dealer level. I'm not a fan of this option, so don't think you've missed much, but everyone has a different opinion. In any case, the corporation is weary of the automotive press frying them about this system, so a redesign is in the cards.
  • bill124bill124 Posts: 242
    I have it in the car I'm picking up and in the CLK it also serves as a CD player, though it only does one cd at a time. I wouldn't have ordered but it was in the car.
  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    Nanky wrote:
    >I heeded the advice of my service counsellor, >despite the very enlightening exchanges that >took place on the forum earlier, and did not >change the oil early.

    Nanky -- When the MB Service and Parts Operations Regional Manager personally returned my call and told me he would rather I not change my oil before the scheduled A service, I took his advice. He told me he had seen too many engines not being properly broken in when the oil change was performed before the FSS scheduled A service. After the A service, he said I could do it more often if I wished, although it was not necessary. Since there had been so much discussion about the subject even when the car was delivered with the Mobil 1 Synthetic, I posted this info on the forum and many, many posters disagreed and disputed it. Whatever! I chose to listen to the MB Regional Manager -- after all, it was with his help that I was able to get the replacement Obsidian.

    Every few months, I might find a time when the mirror drifts once -- sometimes it is if I start the car and press the garage door opener button at the same time.

    Thanks for information on your mileage at the A service. I think at the one-year anniversary I will ask the service advisor if I should wait more than a year to have the service performed even though I have not hit the 10K mark and the computer has not scheduled it.

    I miss our old group -- am still in touch -- some participate at MBNZ, but they still browse here now and then.

    Miki
  • nankynanky Posts: 75
    Mikki wrote >>even though I have not hit the 10K mark and the computer has not scheduled it.

    Mikki, the computer has already scheduled your A service based on driving conditions and there is a way of telling the number of miles remaining long before it is due. To do so, you will need to scroll through the computer screens. I don't have the car here and thus cannot be specific as to the exact screen. What I noticed is that with about 1K or so miles to go, a reminder screen appeared each time I turned the key to start the engine. Happy 9th month!!
  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    Nanky wrote:

    >the computer has already scheduled your A >service based on driving conditions and there is > way of telling the number of miles remaining >long before it is due

    Nanky -- I thought everyone knew that although I was blonde I did not think like one LOL.

    My thinking was thus and I might have written it in blonde language: Although the computer does the scheduling and shows how many miles remain until the A service, it might be advisable to check with the service dept to ask if they thought it advisable to wait until that time even if it took 12-18 months to reach the number.

    Thanks for your efforts -- appreciate.

    Miki
    Blondes Have Their Own Language!
  • fedssocrfedssocr Posts: 90
    I just had my oil changed for the first time last month. I do not drive my car very much, and thus in the first year have only accumulated 5300 miles. I decided that a year was probably a good time to change the oil but I did not ask if I should do it now or wait until FSS says to do it. The service advisor didn't say anything one way or the other, but just wrote up the work order because I asked for an oil change. I paid $72 including synthetic oil. They told me I could have "regular" oil for $49, but I went for the synthetic. I also had them do my state inspection and they did not charge me at all for that, so that saved me $10 which was something I did not expect them to do. It was my first exposure at all to the service department and it was pleasant enough.

    I did note a faint buring oil smell though the first few days after the oil change, but that seems to have dissipated now.
  • bill124bill124 Posts: 242
    I used the Comand System in getting my car home this weekend since to get it at MSRP I had to leave Long Island and head upstate. It really was a help and gave me a different and more efficient way back home than the traditional internet map services. It also gives traffic delays, weather, etc. and is pretty cool. I wouldn't go out of my way to get it but I think if it's there, it isn't bad and is worth the money.
  • mbgambga Posts: 11
    Been reading the good and the bad here for last few weeks. Have not seen any posts that appear to be from the Atlanta area, so I thought it was time.

    I bought my '01 240 from a private party. I feel like I got a new car for a used price! The car was delivered to the original owner in June of '01 and she promptly had to head back to England for a few months. When she had to leave permanently she put it up for sale with only 630 miles on it. I bought it used, but still had to finish breaking it in!

    Absolutely love it. Has the sun roof package and 6-disc CD. Exactly what I would have ordered.

    Met with the same sales person that sold it at Atlanta Classic Cars and he was very friendly and helpful. I'm sure he's lining up the future upgrade(I'll have to keep my wife out of there).

    I did have a problem with a bit of a rough idle while in gear at a stop. Initially the salesman said it may be the gas, as he knew the car had sat for long periods and we were coming off a cold snap. He said to run a full tank or two using 89 octane. I tried that with no relief, so he made me an appointment and I had it checked and fixed the same day (Honda Accord loaner, too bad). The service dept said the motor mounts had compressed and they were replaced at no cost. It did the trick.

    Has anyone else had a motor mount problem? I don't remember seeing that as a problem.

    Even with that problem I'm still quite happy with the car and will keep reading the posts, as there are good tips out there. Like the one about using wax on the to make cleaning off the brake dust easier. That works great.
  • ahostahost Posts: 36
    I also had a rough idle problem with my C320 when I got the car. Same thing, they replaced the motor mounts, and after that there have been no problems.
  • cwdavis1cwdavis1 Posts: 31
    I helped purchase a C-240 for my sister who lives in Florida. She has mentioned to me that twice in the past couple of weeks she could not get the transmission into reverse. Both times she was parked in her garage and she had to put it in drive first a couple of times before reverse would work.

    The dealer has never heard of this problem so has asked her for more specifics when it happens again. Has anyone on this forum experienced similar problems and if so, how was it corrected.

    Thanks for your help.
  • bill124bill124 Posts: 242
    Does your manual say to use 89 octane or 91? Just curious.
  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    fedssocr wrote:
    >decided that a year was probably a good time to >change the oil but I did not ask if I should do >it now or wait until FSS says to do it. The >service advisor didn't say anything one way or >the other.....

    fedssocr -- my thanks for replying to my post. As I understand it, then, you got just an oil change and not your A service. Many have been able to bring their own synthetic Mobil 1, and the service dept has charged them just for the labor, but it doesn't sound as if you overpaid considering you did not have the inconvenience of buying it yourself. I have 6,100 miles, and the FSS shows A service due in 5,000 miles. My 320 will be one year May 31. Since I do approx 700+ miles a month, I will be about 8,200/8400 at the year anniversary, which is about my usual mileage of between 8K-9K a year.

    I will probably reach the 5,000 mark for the first scheduled FSS service (if it does not change its calculation) about 4 mos after the year mark...maybe sooner....so methinks that will not be too long to wait but I will still ask my service advisor. If he does not know, he will find out for me.

    Miki
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,465
    I never understood where the national average of 10,000 - 12,000 miles a year came from until this C-Class board. I can't believe you people have these cars and put so few miles on them every year. I live in NYC and drive my car a few times a month and I'm going to definitely hit or maybe exceed the 36,000 miles by the end of my lease. Most people I know put at least 18,000 - 25,000 miles a year on their cars (with the exception of those who drive back and forth to the train/bus station).

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • crankstercrankster Posts: 20
    Could the 2 people (posts 5203 & 5203) who mentioned that they had their motor mounts replaced, comment on any other symptoms they noticed as a result of the mounts. On top of the multitude of problems my C has had, is the ongoing "rumble" and vibration that is transmitted to the passenger compartment, on top engine vibration at idle.
    Thanks.
  • mbgambga Posts: 11
    On the motor mounts, no symptoms aside from the rough idle. The idle wasn't really that rough (the rpm needle barely moved), though you could tell a marked difference between neutral and drive. Like the other post, no problems since the replacement(about 1800 miles).

    On the octane, the manual says 91, but in Ga for some reason I can't find 91, it's only 87, 89 or 93. The dealership mentioned the worst thing you could do was switch between 93 and 89 to average 91. When I test drove a 3-series BMW they said to they use 89 (manual says 91). The dealership said I would not see a difference in performance using 93, so it was not worth the extra $.10 a gallon. The reason I asked is the owners manual on our Honda Odessey says you will get 205 horse power on regular unleaded, but 210 on premium.

    Is anyone running 93 octane in the C240? Has anyone had problems running 89? Thanks.
  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    nyccarguy wrote:
    >I never understood where the national average of >10,000 - 12,000 miles a year came from until >
    >this C-Class board

    Some people have more than one car.

    Miki
  • fedssocrfedssocr Posts: 90
    And in my case I use public transportation to get to and from work. So I only use my car a few times a week to run errands and a couple of times a year I take a long weekend trip. But otherwise my car spends most of its time sitting down in the garage.

    Since I am not leasing I'm not losing anything by not driving the max miles. I figure it will make the car worth a little more when the time comes to part with it. I couldn't imagine driving 20K miles a year!
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,846
    A major midwestern newspaper is interested in speaking with folks who have anecdotes and opinions on rear wheel drive vs. front wheel drive in winter driving conditions.
    We're also looking for people who recently switched one way or the other and what they like/dislike about what they're driving now.
    If you are interested in participating, please provide your city/state of residence and your daytime phone number to jfallon@edmunds.com no later than March 20, 2002.
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  • 404c404c Posts: 146
    Good on you to use transit. I also minimise mileage by riding my racing bicycle to work as often as weather allows - that saves 3000 km per year, minimum....

    Mike T.
  • Hey you all,
    I just got my C230 kompressor a month ago. Loving it. The performance is great. I even bought a car cover for it but never used it. So I am putting it up ebay for sale. If any of you are interested, please go to ebay and look for.

    Item # 1811218783

    Bought it for $198 and will let it go cheap.

    thanks!
  • Hi,
    I have a question. I have the 2002 model and FSS says to go in at 10,000 miles. So do all of you really go in at 10,000 miles for the first service? Most cars I own before I take in around 3k. I have a friend who told me he tried to take his 2002 c240 in at 5k and the service rep asked him anything wrong with it, and he said no. The rep then told him not to take it in until 10k.

    I have noticed that different location's services are different. I bought mine in SD and people there are nice. I drove it back to Oakland, and reps there have bad attitudes.
  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    I live not far from you. I have shared on the forum, and will share again, what the MB Operations and Service Manager for Orange and Los Angeles Counties told me on the question of early oil change. He would rather I waited until the FSS scheduled change came due -- he has seen too many engines that were not properly broken in when early oil changes had been done. Previously, before Mobil 1 Synthetic, the early 2001 C's did not have the synthetic and that might have been a different story. Last time I posted this there were several in disagreement.

    Miki
  • nankynanky Posts: 75
    I stuck to the FSS schedule and performed my first service at 12,500 miles. The car performed flawlessly through this mileage and continues to do so. Initially, I was apprehensive about having to wait that long for an oil change, especially having stuck to a 3,000 mile schedule over the years for my Honda which, by the way, is still going strong after 254,000 miles. Some of the earlier exchanges on this forum were about whether the cars were delivered with synthetic or mineral oil and the benefits of early oil changes to rid engines of metal shavings and what have yous. It goes without saying that today's engines are much more technologically advanced than those of yesteryear. Based on my experience, you will be just fine sticking to the FSS schedule. Enjoy the ride!!
  • chapterchapter Posts: 4
    Many of you may remember all the problems I had with my 2002 C240. Including Xenon lights goging out, ESP/BAS malfunctions, sunroof not closing, stalling and surging, and swirl marks. After many trips to MB Fort Lauderdale (An AutoNation) company, the local regional rep in Jacksonville offered to buy the car back! It had 8,4XX miles.

    Writing letters and, starting the Lemon Law process works!

    We worked out a deal where I could get a 2002 SLK 230 for a fair price. MBUSA and MB Fort Lauderdale both chipped in to make it happen. So far the SLK is great. Wish me luck!

    PS..wonder if they will sell the C240?
  • What's the VIN number so we can avoid it? ;-)
  • mbgambga Posts: 11
    The dealer told me MB used to use a special "break-in" oil that could only be used for 1000 miles, but some people waited too long and ruined the engine. Now MB breaks in the engines in Stutgart, flushes out the oil, so the initial 1000 mile "go easy" period is to seat the seals, etc. BMW calls for oil changes every 15,000 miles. I'm approaching 3000 in mine, but will wait for the 10,000 mark.
  • Thinking about purchasing a new C Class Sedan. Does anybody prefer the 6 speed over the auto? Anything else to look for? Love the look of this car. Any help would be appreciated.
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