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Seriously, that might be a great way to tow. If you go with any self-propelled RV, you will need to tow another vehicle along behind you, and I can't think of a better vehicle than the MPV! 38' a pretty big RV, though
Pierac,
Yes, the 3.0 liter has been confirmed by many in this forum (via Mazda representative) to be available starting in August. So be patient. Expect a price premium and very few incentives. If you don't plan on towing anything, almost everybody here will agree that the current engine is more than adequate. Have you test driven one yet? You will be able to save a lot of money by buying the standard engine, and even more if you buy one used. I have seen a 2000 MPV ES with 23k miles for less than $17k here in California and consistently seen the ES with < 20k miles for under $20k. Good luck with whatever you buy.
-Brian
Fog Lamps, Roof Rack, Dual Air Cond, 6-Disc Changer, Pwr Moonroof, 4 Seasons package, and LX (2LX) Touring package.
The MSRP on the vehicle was $27,450. On Monday, Mazda announced a $4,000 rebate on vehicles with the 2LX package and the dealer had an additional $500 auto show rebate. The dealer gave a discount of $2,550.
Final price - $20,400 (including destination)
We are quite happy with the deal. Would like to know if anyone else thinks this was a good deal. Thanks
P.S. Only one 2000 Blue Lx in Central OH.
THX, Pete
It is showing scratches and dirt though. Someone backed into it just enough to leave a small scrape and paint on the front bumper. I managed to get it off and also a couple of small scratches on the back bumper. I don't remember the name of the stuff I used.
We had the tehters installed and they didn't cut holes in the floor mats. I saw where there is a cut out for the hole so we know exactly where to cut the mats.
My husband and differ on what to do though. I say to cut the mats since our kids are one and almost 2 so they will be in car seats for a long time. He wants to just take the mat out and put it in the back for when we'll use it. I think I've convinced him that my way's right but I'm wondering what other people did about that.
Also does anyone have any great ideas on how to keep goldfish crackers and other stuff from falling down in the tracks of the 2nd row seats. We managed to get them out but wondered if there was something that we could do preventivly.
Thanks
pdj58: Yes, the LX adds many common conveniences for the price and is worth it. The four-seasons package adds additional cooling capacity for the engine and transmission as well as a heavy duty rear defogger and heat controls for the rear passengers. The rear heat controls are especially important if the vehicle comes equipped with the rear air option since the heat controls allow rear passengers to adjust both heat and air temps. Without the four-seasons package, rear passengers can only adjust fan speed. I wish you the best in your purchase decision making.
Regards,
JB
Someone please tell me I did the right thing as I'm having a little buyers' remorse here. Although smaller than our GC, we felt the cargo well would make up for the lost rear length. The power has me a little concerned though. Seemed the engine was working hard to keep up during our extensive test runs. Hope it holds up. Slight shake noticed, especially when accelerating through the 50-55 mph zone. Big time fluttering wind noise with rear window down. Was wondering if anyone has had problems with inside slide door handles which seemed a bit flimsy? Can they stand the test of time? Seems there should be a stronger handle there in order to close.
Love the looks. Love the price. Just hope I'll love the performance and hope it has a better resale value.
Congratulations on a good purchase.
RJ
(1) The entertainment center. The one we saw at the dealership had the VCR installed under the 3rd seat, which would need to be moved when the rear seat is folded down. Ours is under the front drivers seat. The brand is audiovox, it has the 6" screen and wireless headphones. Is this one that was installed aftermarket and what affect will it have on the warranty?
(2) Is it possible to have a sunroof and roof racks? I had my heart set on the racks and this is one option my car doesn't have.
(3) Could someone tell me more about the tether and how they install it?
Thanks!
Kelly
Regarding the entertainment system, it sounds as if it is an aftermarket system. If it was installed by the dealer you may still get the same warranty. There seems to be some confusion regarding dealer installed vs factory installed systems.
Sounds like you got a good deal for accepting the 4k miles.
If the dealer installed an aftermarket system, it is up to them to warranty it. Unlike the vehicle itself, warranty on aftermarket installations will only be honored at the installing dealer and not every Mazda dealer.
Not to say that it will be a problem, but the Audiovox is not known for its quality.
So, can some prev. owners of DC vans that have switched explain the alure of the Caravan/Voyager, and why people are still buying them when there are so many better built (MPV MPV MPV MPV) vans out there? I applaud all of the new MPV owners who have made the wise choice to purchase an MPV.
So, fire away, heh heh heh...hope I didn't just insert foot...
--javadoc
I had to run to Home Depot to pick up 10 bags of compost on Saturday and rather than have the dirty bags stacked in the cargo well, I thought I'd just throw down the rear seat. Well as soon as the older gent in his Villager next to me saw this, he started prodding me about the van and how I liked it. The conversation started with the back seat, moved to engine power, then fuel economy, next interior room. I had to cut it short as this was supposed to be a quick trip. He literally just sat there and gawked as I pulled out of the lot and down the road. I think he was thinking about a car-jack.
So had I owned a Caravan, I would have been home 5 minutes sooner. Darn!
Here now I'm jealous...you're doing garden/yard work, and I'm chipping ice off of my *&%(#@ driveway for two hours last night...still not done (wouldn't care 'cept I'm taking the snow off as soon as my new Yokos arrive from Tirerack). I won't even *think* about putting the snow blower in the shed and taking the mower out for at least another month. Can't wait to head to the 'Depot for edging/soil/fertilizer in the MPV.
--j
I know at that size it won't last long, but I figured the doc would get the point.
Am hoping to get one this week. Most prices on this list are in line with carsdirect.com prices. Should I still go thru the grind with the dealers ? pros / cons ?
Your dealer can get the tethers installed for you and most have done it for free although the tether parts will cost you around $8 each. They work with the 2nd row captains chairs and are really nice. They match the interior color of your van (beige or grey) and come with a nice cover that snaps on for when they are not in use. There are also marks on the mat for the bench seat that show the dealer where to cut out so the tethers fit thru nicely. It is a good set up. I personally only need one car seat and chose to put the tether on the driver's side seat so we can still use the the slide feature of the other captain's chair. Hope this helps and enjoy your van - you will love it!
I can't say that the van was a piece of excretum (I can't help it; I'm an English teacher), though. Once the initial tranny problem was fixed, the thing never gave me another problem. Until I read the posts, I'd have recommended the DC to anyone. As a matter of fact, I was set to buy another one. Until...
RJ
Just curious if anyone has had to change a tire on their MPV yet. I picked up our new 2001 silver LX last Tuesday night and kind of rushed the salesman through the check list because I wanted to get going and drive it! As a result, I never got the spare tire tutorial. Reading through the owner's manual it looks kind of confusing and a bit of a pain to access the spare. Is it as bad as it seems? Maybe when the weather breaks I'll try a "test run".
BTW, based on comments posted here, I picked up a clutter catcher from Walmart Saturday and it does fit like a glove. The emergency brake's a little inconvenient now and you do have to position the console just right because of the front arm rests, but it's nice to have a little more storage. I guess it could also be a problem for the second seat passenger's feet when the seats are pushed together into bench mode. The deeper cup holders are convenient, too. Overall, $25 well spent. Thanks for the info.
system installed aftermarket under its new car warranty provided it is installed by "factory approved" installer. In my case, mine was installed by Classic Soft Trim (nationwide shops who specialize in aftermarket "factory approved" accessories (ie., Rosen systems, leather interiors, etc.).
Classic's paperwork actually states all of this.
I think Mazda got it right with their spare tire setup. Sometimes it's the little things that matter the most, like the baggie in the tool kit, or the nice way the lug nut key snugs to the tire iron. They prolly had a design committee that decided exactly what needed to be in the tool kit, lol. I remember when we got our MPV in Portland, just before we drove it back to Anchorage, we tested the workings of the spare, and it is indeed very easy, esp since you can stand out of harm's way when cranking the spare down, and not emptying a full trunk, exercising your "vocabulary" at the same time.
I ran over a screw at a tool rental place in Rolf last fall (renting a ladder for those bloody Christmas lights), and had to remove stroller, subwoofer box and emergency box before I could lift the trunk floor and remove the spare, saying some good "Christian words" as mom always called them. To it's merit, the tool kit for the car even came with some leather gloves with "Volvo" inked on the backs of them (no baggie tho), so I had to smile while doing my best rendition of a 15 second NASCAR pit stop...which probably took more like 5 minutes. Must be cuz I didn't have my Rainbow Warriors jacket on.
I'm old school too, and keep gloves, a small tool roll and flares in the compartment next to the subwoofer.
Incidentally, just for conversation, does anyone use the small tray under the front passenger seat? I don't think we've ever put anything in it, save for some spare gloves.
--j
Of course, if you didn't purchase the item from a Mazda dealer, a Mazda dealer can't warranty the part and Mazda's warranty only applies to Genuine Mazda Parts and Accessories.
Like I said before, the place that you purchased your system from is free to warrant their product as they will but they can not claim that the item is covered by Mazda's warranty.
A side note: there is no such thing as "Aftermarket Factory Approved Accessories".
Reminds me of some auto parts commercial I saw a while back. There's this guy sitting in the back seat of someone's SUV (a Yukon I think), and he says, "Hang on, I hear something rattling!" He climbs out of the vehicle, which is lumbering down a two-laner, and crawls under it, flashlight in his mouth. At the end of the commercial, he plops down in the seat again, "It's okay, it was only a twig." I think I watch too much TNN.
I too have learned to carry a few items, usually only after I've needed them desperately. Duct tape is ever present (good for taping exhausts back together when 100 miles from Nowhere, BC), as well as a collapsible snow shovel, which our friend Maltb will never need living right near paradise, lol.
Maltb, btw, know where I can rent an MPV when I come down to Orange in May?
--javadoc
It's amazing how many car reviewers labeled the MPV as very underpowered. The MPV's reputation has been unfairly represented in the press. I've driven many minivans and they aren't entering any drag races.
If you want the BEST looking minivan, best handling(sedan like), only minivan produced outside of North America(engine built in US),least problems and most loyal owners around, the MPV is your only choice.
We will purchasing a 01LX very shortly, waiting for my tax refund for a higher down payment.
Thx to Java, Blondemom!, maltb, rjr425 and all the others for your input. You have been very helpful. It's just getting "old" defending this wonderful van.
Pjd58
P.S. Before you purchase your MPV make sure to test drive it at highway speed. A few have had some vibration, as I noted earlier. Find one that drives well. But, shouldn't we all test drive our car under all of your typical driving conditions before we sign on the dotted line? Just my 2 pennies worth:)
Is this in addition to the rebates or in leiu of ?
Am hoping to get one this week.
Most prices on this list are in line with carsdirect.com prices.
Should I still go thru the grind with the dealers ? pros / cons ?