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Maybe you should take another one out for a spin just to confirm (assuming you liked most everything else about the SUV).
Steve, Host
Also, got dealer quote for 20,900 on "L" pkg w/4WD, Keyless entry, Al. wheels and roof rack (this includes destination fee) is this a good price?
Any insight is much appreciated.
Steve, Host
http://store.yahoo.com/lexusparts/rav4l.html
My heart tells me to go for the Rav since it looks really cool in blue and all the kits on. Still my head tells me to go for the Xtrail since it is larger/more powerful(2.5l) and pracical. Can you give me some suggestion please? I need to make a decision in two days. Thanks
BTW, I live in Shanghai.
I can't say what your needs are. When I was doing my car shopping, the main reason I choose the RAV4 was the look and good price I got on it. There are lot more SUVs with more power and larger side than the RAV4 in the US. Having driven a 3L V6 and 4L V8 cars before the RAV4, I have not feel the lost of power as I would have expected. I end up saving alot on fuel cost. I feel the quality of both Toyota and Nissan are very good, having own 3 Toyota and 3 Nissan.
I am asumming that you are going to keep it for a long time. You must feel good driving and not have second thought about your decision. Also, how are traffic in Shanghai? Having been in Hong Kong and Guangzhou, they some time can get pretty bad. But I can say the same thing for the San Francisco Bay Area.
The 04 models of Japaness cars should arrive in China only in June, my friend told me. And there might not be too much changes for the compact SUVs, as far as the dealers know. And if it is only a facelift, I think the Rav is already cool enough.
a cash price of $20.5K. MSRP was $22.6K. We went
trought Fleet Sales and effectively got invoice
+ $200.00 over.
My wife had her heart set on a white Sport model which was listed in the dealer inventory but was actually not. We would've had to wait for another
to come in or special order and wait for several
more months. However, she was determined to get
something and she liked the blue color anyway. All in all the Sport Package didn't make a big difference to her either.
Toyota seems to like piling on a lot of extras
at the Port of Entry and dealership. We wanted
some of the extras but others we did't, so we negotiated discounts or no cost on stuff we did and didn't want. The dealership even threw-in
window-tinting for free.
The process, even with the fleet-sales, was too long compared with our last vehicle purchase. Something the dealership/Toyota should work on.
The RAV4 is perfect for my wife because she wanted
small(er) and high(er) without extra largesse in
the vehicle. She enjoys driving it immensely
and has a reasonably high seat position. She
has bad arthritis and this was definitely a factor
getting in and out of any vehicle. Out of all of
small-utes we tested the RAV4 fit her best.
She effectvely can slide in and out of the seat
with no problem w/o stooping or bending too much.
I've driven the RAV4 myself and was impressed
with the overall quality and drivability. Wish
it had another 40-50 HP though. It'd be a hoot
to scoot around in then. My Ford Escape has
201 HP and never feels winded, but I pay in less
gas mileage too. The first fill-up on the RAV4
averaged 24 MPG city with a little hwy. mileage.
Not bad and I expect that may go up a little.
mckee4 - Thanks for sharing this. My wife is planning to trade her Accord for RAV4. She loves the styling and fun to drive. We are not ready to buy yet because I recently bought a SUV. $$$ issue!! But the deals that I've got have been great with very good price and low APR. I think Toyota will put only 20 more power horsepower (16? hp) if they have plan to redesign it, just try to compete with CR-V.
Found out on a RAV4 site that the first gen RAV4 came out in 1994, so my first message about the model year was wrong. I think Toyota does 4 years ccyle on high volumn cars like Camry and Corolla. As much as I like the RAV4, it doesn't sell as much as those two models.
No comfort problems, even with my tricky back.
I guess your comfort may vary.
http://www.romaniatoyotaparts.com/rav41.html
I have had good experience in dealing with them.
Good luck!
packages, is it already included in the
Edmunds' MSRP and Invoice prices?
thanks!
area?
thanks!
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
We just purchased a used 2002 4WD base with Quick Order package, roof rack, mud flaps, and key less entry. Mileage: 16,500. Paid $17,900. I think we did well. Do you agree?
We've been agonizing over getting one for over a year. We were going to go for a 2WD, but this one showed up and we pounced on it. Looked at Tributes, but were scared of reliability. Liked the CRV, but not the styling as much. We were loaned a new 2WD for a weekend, and that clinched it. The 4WD seems slightly less peppy and nimble, but it is not significant.
Unfortunately, since it was detailed so well at the dealership where we bought it, I was not aware till a few days later that the previous owner was a smoker (buyer beware!). I've put in a couple of Yankee Candle Car Jars (hanging scent things), as well as using a spray called Febreze. I'm hoping the combination, along with a few more applications will do it. Any thoughts or suggestions?
Thanks
I'm not sure which post you are referring to, but I did get the CarFax report on the 2002, and it checked out 100%. And most dealers will give you the info for free.
Thanks for any help.
User7
pay too much, about retail. you could get a new
2003 as you equipped for about $19,800 plus tax
if the dealer is honest. I personally went through the same delimma, new vs used. The problem is used 2001-2002 rav 4's dealers and private parties keep the prices up, but they do sell. very high resale value on these things.
if the $17,900 was out the door including sales tax, you got an excellent price.
I ended up buying new. Reason is I knew where it had been (from factory), recieved full 36,000 mi
warranty (worth a lot to me), did not have to worry about smokers or hidden damage. But I did
pay more for new I agree.
I want to everyone about my friends experience.
My young blonde friend went in alone,
She went to Grand Rapids dealer, they did not have the vehicle, would not quote a firm price,
wanted her to sign agreements to buy without seeing the car. Just wanted $100 on her charge card so they could get the car here. would not talk to me about price. I sent her to Lansing
MI Spartan Toyota. Kathleen there gave a no nonsense bottom line price which blew away the Grand Rapids prices, plus they have a huge inventory. She waited while they prepped it and drove it home on a Saturday afternoon. Wow, I love Spartan Toyota E Lansing !
Then Grand Rapids Dealer called her, she explained she bought over the weekend, salesman
got upset (probably because he lost a huge commission) and told her he would not refund her $100 because he had already ordered a car.
It took calls to manager to agree to not do that.
Just poor business. PS She has the same cowl/
windshield rattle as mine did 6 months ago, so
Toyota still has not fixed this small, stupid,
simple fix problem. I cannot wait to borrow her car to do the felt/insulation, screw, fix, as I
did on mine. Otherwise, her car is also perfect.
If anyone is concerned about rav4 construction
quality, do not be. This is the real job#1 quality
built vehicle.
RAV4 at close to $1000 below invoice in Southern
california area recently?
it seems to me it is doable.
this site has been silent for a while, here is something new!
i just bought a new RAV4 for my wife in S.CA.
2003 RAV4 L package titannium color with sunroof, rear spoiler, keyless entry,roof rack and alloy wheels, paid $21600 including fees.
my wife loves the small baby!
thanks everybody in this forum for the valuable
infos!
Steve, Host
On another front, I think I'm hearing the famous windshield rattle again, folks. Can I tighten the cowl myself and save another trip to the dealer? I see some bolts near the wipers. Are they the ones to tighten?
Thanks.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
i guess that is the way it is according to this
forum's feedback...
also, it comes with the dunlop tires, was hoping
to get the Toyo ones, not sure which one is better.
seem a little squirley when wet, could just be me.
My only experience with toyo was a new datsun I
had, came with toyo tires. They wore like iron.
I retired it with toyos. They are an excellent tire. I would select toyo over dunlop if I had that choice.
I did not know toyota is using them.
This week my new American Racing chrome alloy wheels ($357 for 4 were on sale, go on sale periodically) plus yokohama geolander tires
(at $95 apeice installed) from the sears retail tire store. Looking forward to see if I get a ride/traction improvement, will let the board know. This leaves me with a set of steel wheels
and dunlops for winter or whatever.
Sounds like dealer time.
windshield cowl. you cannot see this from the exterior of car. need to remove screws to get to this. it really is an easy thing to do.
My friends said that is not normal, suggest dealers to get at least tire balancing but the City Toyota at Daly city decline. I have suffer for 5 months on that problem, now it is 4500 miles & it is better on higher speed 70-75 mph, but still dips & vibrates on lower speed like ~ 45-60mph on rough surface roads. Anyone had any problems like that ?? I test drive another new RAV-4 on freeway & I don't feel that problem.
But that City Toyota dealer refused to do anything ABOUT IT, any help or suggestion ?? Is the TOYO tire really too hard & causing the harsh/rough bounpy ride ?
Mine does fine on interstates, but rough roads do make for a bouncy ride, no question. Also some elevated freeways and overpsses (seams between sections perhaps are uneven).
But the word "vibrate" does not describe my experience (except for the much-discussed and easily remedied windshield rattle). "Dip," "bounce," yes. I can only assume you've been on much rougher terrain than I have. The RAV ain't a Hummer.
Hope this helps. Perhaps others have more data.
Toyota is offering 1.9% APR for 36 months for the RAV4 and most Toyota vehicles, plus $300 manufacturer to dealer incentive (may be combined with special APR offer). One dealer offers $300 over invoice for any RAV4. Is this a good deal? I quoted earlier from other dealer for $21599 plus 198 doc. fee for 4WD, Auto, "L" package, ABS, and rear spoiler. Am I also taking an advantage of this $300?
in CA you can get it below invoice as i did
(refer to my earlier post).
wondering what is your invoice price?
What seems to be a problem with the windshield noise? People said this is no more than a trip to service department to tighten some screws. But Toyota knows about it and nothing has been done about it.