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Hyundai Elantra 5-door

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  • Let your mom drive both and decide. She has to drive it every day, not you (or your father). There were some posts a while back about blind spots. See if your mom has a blind spot in the GT. If she does, then she should not get one. I think she'll be happy either way. She might kind of like the more "retro" look of the Spectra interior--who knows?
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Hi th003g - In addition to the good feedback here, you may also want to compare these two in Edmunds' side-by-side vehicle comparison tool. In addition, feel free to start up a "Hyundai Elantra vs Kia Spectra" discussion on the Hatchbacks board if you'd like. Good luck with your decision. ;-)

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  • I'm sure they are not the exact same vehicle, but wouldn't they be close enough to discourage such a comparison?
  • Hi all I have had my GT for about a month now and I'm wondering if anyone besides me has noticed that the gas mileage on the sticker does not even come close to what I actually get. Can anyone tell me if it gets better as the car works out all the kinks of being new?
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    started out in the low 20's mixed driving and is now right at 30 mpg. Hyundai engines are notoriously tight and require quite a few miles to loosen up. I'm just over 8,000 miles and have just switched from 10-30 SuperTech (Quaker State) to 5W30 for the winter. I imagine that switching to a full syn. would get you a couple of extra tenths, but will probably stay with dino. especially with the new SL/ILSAC 3 classifications which are (usually) a syn. mix anyway.
  • th003gth003g Posts: 149
    anyone know where I can get a flexible rubber antenna to replace the fixed mast POS on the GT? You know like the kind on ALL VW's and the Civic (GOD I hate that word). BTW my parents decided on a 2002 Sonata GLS for my mom. in Desert Sand, gonna have to get a power antenna for that one to since it only comes with fixed mast also.. wonder why hyundai won't spring a little extra for the power or the rubber.
  • I think you can get them at places like Radio Shack or most any auto parts store. The black rubber antennas actually look decent on the GT; probably due to the GT's employment of black body moulding.

    (The downside is that it's difficult to use electrical tape to attach a small American flag to the flexible antennas. I'm all for displays of patriotism, but if you're going to fly the flag on your vehicle please be sure to secure it properly! I've seen way too many Old Glories on the side of highway lately.)

    Also, to any GT owners who live in snowy areas: be sure to post your winter driving experiences. The flakes are already falling in some areas of the great land of ours.

    Happy Motoring!
  • bill_1bill_1 Posts: 97
    I would guess that the reason that Hyundai does not spring for the more expensive antenna is that they do have to make compromises if they are going to keep the costs so low. I would prefer see them do it with the antenna (which most people don't pay much attention to anyway) than with the tires : ).
  • Does anyone else have difficulty seeing the trip/mpg/odometer readout? No problem at night when the dashboard is illuminated, but impossible to read during the day unless the sunlight is coming over my shoulder. Real bummer when trying to follow directions like "turn left three miles after the stoplight". Everything else about the car meets or exceeds my expectations. Is there a fix, other than carrying a small flashlight?
    TIA.
  • shado4shado4 Posts: 287
    ...of buying a 2002 Hyundai Elantra GT, silver (pewter), auto, moonroof, ABS/traction (in other words...loaded!) for $100 over invoice.

    Good? Bad? Indifferent?

    I've read all the posts on this board since Sunday night, test drove the GT last night and came away pretty impressed.

    I'm looking for more owner comments. Is this car REALLY as good as what I've been reading?

    Please help kill any lingering doubts I have about Hyundai's reputation.

    Thanks!
  • shado4 - That's a pretty good price. Watch out for the doc fees. It's the end of the month so you might be able to get below invoice. Two points to make with them. First there is a 2% dealer holdback (i.e. Hyundai sends 2% to the dealer when he sells the car - the % declines over time to create a small incentive to move the stock). Second point out your taking a risk that there will be an incentive next month - so maybe you should wait. Only the ABS is rare, otherwise you could probably find that car in a 2001 if you searched - and that would have more negotiation room. Some of the 2001 have the softer suspension.
  • One thing to do is to pay the 4 bucks to get a one month membership at http://consumerreports.org/ then look at the 2001 reliability numbers and be sure to compare it against the other cars in it's class. Their #'s suggest it's better than a jetta :-), but it's no Toyota.
  • bill_1bill_1 Posts: 97
    Well mind you I have had a Jetta for over 3 years now and I have never had a major problem. Granted few cars are as reliable as a Toyota but that does not mean other cars are downright unreliable. Also while Consumer Reports is a valuable resource, it is important not to view it as a perfect source.

    Finally of course even if Toyota is the most reliable car on the planet, if they don't make one that fits your needs and desires, then there is little worry in how cars that do meet them compare with a Toyota.
  • I also have some sloppy paint a the tips of the rear lenses, and one of the lenses appears to have a stress fracture. In addition, at the very front tip of the front hood, on either side of the grille, it appears that a paint drip has dried hard. Tempted to file it off, to prevent eventual breakage that takes more paint with it. Will the dealer remedy this problem pro bono? Also, the cd player refuses to eject cds. The only way to get them out is by gently inserting the edge of another cd into the opening. Anyone else have this problem? BTW, we just passed 4000 miles and the average mpg is only 25, due to my wife's very short, stop and go commute to work. We drove it to Rochester NY this past weekend (800 miles round trip). Very pleasant, comfortable, quiet ride. Still a slight shimmy in the steering, but I will rotate tires this weekend and hope that it improves.
  • I am considering buying the GT, but when I got a price quote from my insurance company (Geico in FL), the rate was over double my other cars combined, one of which is a far more expensive car. Does anyone else have this insurance rate problem? If so, why? IF not, let me know what company you use!!

    Thanks
  • You may have a higher rate with the GT initially because many insurance carriers aren't familair with the VIN series for the GT model Elantras. As a result, the car gets lumped in with the other hard-to-classify (read: exotic) autos and the policyholder pays a higher rate.

    My guess is that you will see your premiums normalize over the next 1-3 years as the car becomes more familiar to the rate service organizations.

    When I bought the GT my insurance company mailed me a letter asking me to verify the VIN. The company (CNA) indicated that no such VIN existed! By the way, I find CNA to be a very good carrier. I've had coverage with them for four years.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    When the Elantra got the mid-platform improvements (picked up a grill), 98 or 99 you could check at Edmunds-- many improvements lessening front and rear end damage to the car were made. Before that, it was very easy to do a lot of damage with rather low speed accidents. This subject was discussed in July or August with the GLS threads and that seemed to be the concensus.

    The present car is a much more durable platform (except for the late-firing air bags) and should have far better insurance ratings over the next several years. Also, that is one area where the cars historic high depreciation should also help it in quickly lowering the collision costs.
  • wmoseswmoses Posts: 212
    Shado4 wrote--
    "...of buying a 2002 Hyundai Elantra GT, silver (pewter), auto, moonroof, ABS/traction (in other words...loaded!) for $100 over invoice."

    I have the same car as the above, including the ABS/TC/moonroof and got it for the same price.

    Go for it.

    I have had the car for about a month now and am just about to complete the 1200 mile unofficial "break-in".

    Mileage is increasing slightly and is now up to 29 mpg on a daily commute regimen here in NW Houston, at typical freeway speeds (70 mph).

    This is my 4th Elantra (1989 Sonata, 1993 Elantra GL, 1996 Elantra GL) - forget about Hyundai's reputation. Detractors are usually not speaking from personal experience, but from hearsay. This is the best Hyundai in terms of fit and finish and performance and so forth, that I have owned to date.
  • wmoseswmoses Posts: 212
    post2 said --
    "Hi all I have had my GT for about a month now and I'm wondering if anyone besides me has noticed that the gas mileage on the sticker does not even come close to what I actually get."

    When I picked mine up from the dealer it was getting 26 mpg. One month and almost 1200 miles later, it is getting 29 mpg on the trip computer, and this agrees with hand calculations.

    As new engines wear in, the become more loose and hence friction losses in the engine decrease, and more of the power is used in moving the vehicle. This tops out at the rated level, although mileage will vary from car to car, driver to driver.
  • wmoseswmoses Posts: 212
    "Does anyone else have difficulty seeing the trip/mpg/odometer readout? No problem at night when the dashboard is illuminated, but impossible to read during the day unless the sunlight is coming over my shoulder."

    This is because the trip computer is a LCD (liquid crystal display) which requires either reflected light or background light in order to be readable. This -- as opposed to an LED, or light emitting diode, which is what the clock uses.

    All GTs will have this problem.
  • estoesto Posts: 136
    I have a question for those that have quoted prices of $X over invoice (e.g. $100 over
    invoice). Did you see the actual dealer invoice? Were there any line items that you weren't
    expecting? In particular, was there a line for regional advertising? If so, how much was it
    (and where are you located)? Thanks!!

    Erik
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    it was identical to the figures that Edmunds had, dollar for dollar including accessories. I've used Edmunds for previous purchases and their figures have always been right on.
  • ochizon - One input to the setting of the insurance rates is the data from this table

    http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ictl/ictl_4dr.htm

    showing, injury, theft, collision for various models. I'm very interested in what you find out if you can get your insurance company to explain the rate they picked.
  • 5port5port Posts: 395
    peterwonsky - MPG computer illumination

    The LCD trip computer is a bit difficult to see in certain lighting. I would like to warn against wearing polarized sunglasses as they make it VERY difficult to see LCD displays.

    shado4 - On the Verge

    I have had my GT for a little over a month now and I could gush about a lot of things. I owned a 1994 CivicSi for about 8 years before the GT and never looked back. The car has blown me away with quality,performance and value. The fact that Motorweek has clocked the 5-speed at 8 seconds for 0-60 (1/2 second quicker than my old Si) really makes me elated.

    uryourword - Finish of rear Lenses

    My rear lenses are fine. Rotating the front tires to the back will get rid of the shimmy (I did it last week).

    ochizon - Hoping to join you

    Insurance costs :
    My old 94CivicSi was $800.00
    My new GT is : $1400.00

    Company is State Farm
  • brc3brc3 Posts: 13
    I am interested in buying a GT elantra possibly in the few months. I live in Ohio. A dealer close to me has a 2002 pewter GT with automatic transmission, moonroof, antilock brakes, traction control, and mud guards. With destination charges, they are asking 15,999 for the car. Edmunds TMV for the car is 15,460. The same dealer also has a 2001 red GT with the same options. They are asking 15,499 for that car. Since I am not in a rush to buy a new GT, I will see what some other dealers are asking for the car. I was wondering what are the prices like in the other parts of the country.
  • brc3, call around to other dealers and ask if they will sell at invoice. I'll waiting for a specific GLS to come in. I called around the Dayton/Cinci area and found two who would sell at invoice. If you are near the Dayton/Columbus area, check out Jeff Wyler in Springfield.
  • estoesto Posts: 136
    I would think it would be much easier to get a gls at invoice than a gt. We have all sorts of
    screamer ads for Elantra GLS' here in Portland, but basically no ads at all for the gt (I assume
    that's because it doesn't need them).

    Erik
  • shado4shado4 Posts: 287
    I signed on the dotted line last night and took delivery of the pewter 2002 Elantra GT. This is a very nice car! First one I've owned with leather and I love it.

    Initial impressions:
    - Extremely good build quality. Doors close with a solid 'thunk'. Both interior and exterior fit and finish are first rate.

    - Good low end grunt when you first step on the gas. Seeing as how I only have 12 miles on the odo, I'll save the wide-open throttle starts for a later date.

    - Love the fade-to-off of the overhead lights and the lighted key cylinder.

    - Got a kick out of the trip computer...watched my MPG go from 11.3 all the way to 23.4 when I first got on the highway. It may have gone up further if I didn't need to exit.

    Problem areas that others have noted:

    - My gas gauge actually read OVER the full mark when I took delivery. I'll keep an eye on it when I do my first fill up.

    - CD player played and ejected my CD just fine.

    - Did not notice any cracked rear lenses or execessive paint drippings. Only physical blemish on the outside was a scratch on the driver's side door mirror, which will be fixed by the dealership at no charge.

    That's it for now!
  • I bought from jeff Wyler in Springfield -- they were great. Bought at invoice, including $405 advertising. See my previous comments about prices.
  • smkm1smkm1 Posts: 2
    i drive a lot everyday.......and want to have a little fun......is it a good car for a long commute??????
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