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It keeps you from waxing over impurities, so you don't get a crud buildup and less than stellar paint.
My other car is a white 2002 Protege 5 (when the lawn is cut its my sons). He used a clay bar from Maquires (sp) to remove a red gritty type of "fallout" that the dealer couldn't take off (actually they did a half*&ss job).This stuff is great! It lifted everything stuck to the paint. Then he put two coats of the goldclass wax. They also have low luster vinyl and leather cleaners for the interior that donot look greasy.
Is that $190 PLUS another $125 to drop the pan and replace the filter? Or an $125 plus an additional $65 for the additional trans oil?
Do you fall into the "severe duty" catagory? It's supposed to last longer than 35K. So GM claims anyway.
We're frustrated that GM cannot fix the stutter/hiccup at idle on our '03 Envoy. The Customer Assistance Center folks admit that they have others complaining of this problem (like the brand new '03 loaner I had) but they don't have a fix.
So they upped our tranny warranty to 100,000 miles (5 years) and consider the problem resolved. I don't think that's acceptable. $40k truck that is embarrassing to give people rides in.
The GM Customer Assistance folks actually told us that the only thing we can do now is to escalate it to the BBB. Has anyone tried this approach?
I don't have any experience with the arbitration process but B3 was VERY helpful in a dispute I had with a large computer company. The company had been footdragging on an issue and out of frustration I finally called B3. 24 hours later the problem was fixed! Apparently, the company was sensitive to having its name on file.
I'm a little apprehensive, however, about a company that invites you to go to the B3.
tidester, host
GAM
Can you tell us how much the Borla exhaust cost? Where did you get it from? Can you provide some pictures of the install procedure?
Enquiring minds want to know...
What most people don't know is that each city's local BBB is signed up with all the local dealers as a mediator. The dealers pay the BBB fees to mediate consumer issues. It's only human nature to rule for the person who is paying you, and last time I checked, most of us have never donated to the BBB...
My PT is in suit (lemon law) right now - I didn't bother with the BBB because I've seen over 1800 cases in 2 years that went through the BBB and ended up against the vehicle owner.
I've used a clay bar on a couple cars in the past. It's sort of like Silly Putty, but a little firmer. It does work well. You'll see it pick up grit and leave a smoother finish. You don't have to clay very often; maybe every year or so. But you can do some touch-up claying if you notice some hard to remove deposits. Here's the technique I learned and used: 1) First I washed the car with Dawn detergent. This gets rid of all the old wax buildup, grease, etc. 2) When you use the clay bar you have to keep a small area well-lubricated with the accompanying spray that should come with the clay. YOu don't need to use very much pressure on the clay bar; the lubricant lets it glide over the surface. You knead the bar frequently so any grit is incorporated and not exposed and dragged across the paint. If you drop the clay bar on the ground, you'll probably have to throw that piece away. To save money, I cut my clay bar in 3 pieces and save the other two pieces in plastic wrap and a jar for another time. The directions will tell you how to use the clay; short straight strokes. 3) After claying, then I washed with car shampoo to remove the clay residue. 4) Then I applied a coat of polymer including the painted wheels; some people choose wax instead of polymer. 5) Sometimes I put some Blitz car wax on top of the polymer. (I usually apply the polymer yearly and Blitz in between). BTW, one of the best things I've found for streak-free drying my vehicle after a wash is the Absorber towel, which I got at WalMart; it's amazing and you'll never go back to a chamois. I also treat the dash and plastic with 303 Aerospace Protectant, and I also use it on the rubber mouldings/weatherstripping to keep those soft. Finally, I use a leather conditioner-cleaner on the steering wheel wrap (I don't have leather seats).
Frank
Yes of course get new sockets if they are damaged. Mine weren't. The socket contacts were in surprizingly good condition. Just a little corrosion pitting looking stuff on the actual socket contacts. I have macro close-up pics of the sockets themselves. And a year and a half of warranty to go, too.
A friend that has a '97 Chevy Z-71 truck has had the same bulb contact problem since the 1st year he owned it. Seems to be a common problem on a lot of vehicles that use that same style of bulb. I was suggesting a way to prevent failure in the future by adding a small amount of dielectric grease at the contact points. Similar to the suggestion in this month's Techlink concerning electrical connectors and contact failure.
So far 15100 miles and no problems as of yet(knock on wood).
I enjoy it alot. Just wish there was more aftermarket items for it. Helwig sway states that they will make a sway bar kit for the triples when then get more request for it. Same with JBA headers.
My a/c has never worked right since i bought the vehicle in August 2002 (Trailblazer EXT, LT, with automatic temperature control). I have been back to the dealer a total of 6 times out of which 2 times they said the a/c was running per GM specs, but the other four times they did the following: 1. New Compressor 2.Software update 3. Low pressure switch replace 4. Low pressure switch replace. The a/c still does not function well, on a hot day it will start blowing cold for a minute and then warm air and it takes forever to cool.
After my 6th attempt i filled out the paper work for lemon law and mailed it to GM. The lady from GM called me today and the has set up a final appointment with the dealer for fixing the a/c on Tuesday 6/17/03. Will keep you posted as to what happens,if they fix it fine if not they will have to buy my TB back.
P.S.
No vibration from the gas pedal now that its warm. I cant wait for winter for it to come back.
Or, I think of it as keeping my 2WD from becoming a 1WD. No "G80" option? Maybe they made it standard. I doubt that though. I had to drive 200 mi to get mine with the G80, gear ratio, and other options I wanted but a surprizing number I looked at in '02 in dealer stock had the G80 option. I think it is very important to have in a vehicle with any decent power. Makes taking off from a stop on a slightly uphill wet street across 6 lanes of traffic much easier.
I agree, having the locker is great. I did not need 4WD in many case last winter.
GAM
PN# 89040362 Pressure Cycling Switch is NOT on back order. They are straight up lying if they told you that. There are over 25000 of these switches in one warehouse alone. I'm surprised that they didn't have the switch in there own stock considering how many different trucks this TSB applies too. If there is another Chevy dealership in your area I say lose this one. If you want to pay for it and do it yourself just call another GM Dealerships Parts Dept. give them the PN# and check availability. It should take you a whole 5 mins to do the install. Just remove old switch install new one, no evacuation of the A/C system is needed. Just remember you may have another problem with your A/C system and the switch might not fix the problem and you will NOT be able to return it for a refund.
BTW my old original low side cycling switch continues to work, and worked great for over 5 hours continuously last weekend. I have never had mine quit cooling or that switch quit cycling after the system gets cooled down. So like Nuyorkah said, it might not fix the particular problem you are having. The issue I have is the High side cutting out after startup in the hot afternoon. I can pretty much keep the compressor on, not cutting off, if I let the system cool for a min or so with the fan on 1 and definitely in Recirculate. Those with insufficient cooling after everything gets stabilized, make sure you are in Recirculate. Too bad they don't incorporate a slow blower fan speed ramp-up like my Dad's old '79 Caddy did. It would gradually increase the fan speed up to your setting, as the evaporator would get cool and not blast you with hot air in the face. Old-tech. My home a/c sort of does the same thing the old Caddy did- precools the evaporator before the fan turns on to get the coils cold quicker and not blast hot humid air into the house.
""I believe the bars will work on the EXT. We found that the vehicle only needed a rear upgrade and we include new bushings in the front. What engineering believes GM did was designed it with such a soft front spring, that they needed to over compensate with the huge front bar they installed. That combination left it with a lot of under steer, where it feels like the front end is pushing out towards the curb in turns. The addition of our rear bar will balance it out. We may also have a lowering kit available in the future also.
Thanks,
Mark""
Good Luck
Wxman
And Tblazed...I would have driven 200 miles to find an Envoy with the G80 as well. My dealer sold me the Envoy that was on the lot at 400 below invoice,(BEFORE REBATES!) to entice me to give up the G80. It was the end of last year and GM had a big big contest to push up their market share for the year. I had talked to him right from the get go, no locker, no deal! Every man has their price, and for 400 below invoice Ill even lease it with the over priced Onstar.
I was on the GMS plan and had the GM card. Got a few other discounts with it. Pretty much "fully loaded". Only option it didn't have was traction control, Bose system, and XM radio)
MSRP $36,495
Invoice $33,000
TMV $33,400
Mine before
tax $25,300
Figured $11,200 off MSRP wasn't shabby
It's at another dealership and should be in Monday or Tuesday. I hope there won't be a ton of problems as it seems most people seem to find this vehicle problematic.
Guess I'll get a speaker upgrade and a XM thing put in in a couple of weeks. Is the 6 disc changer and LTZ package have any better speakers than the base LS?
It did work for a few days but when the temp goes into the high 80's it just doesn't seem to do the job. Air temp coming out of vent is 58-64. Recirculate helps some. Auto climate control I thought was supposed to be good?
Ron M.
#1 I used to fill up at Sunoco, they use 10% Ethanol always got 15-16 MPG
Started using Mobil, I have been getting a consistent 19MPG
Stay away from the ethanol blends it kills your MPG.
I did fill up at Sunoco once in between just to see if I was nuts, Nope 17mpg.
So take it for what its worth! food for thought!
The fix is to replace the entire instrument panel cluster. They installed a rebuild unit, it works fine. The tach noise is now limited to engine start up, which IS normal. Thanks to everyone for their replies, the information from this chat room helped cut through the BS when I returned to the dealer.
By the way, my loaner car was a rental Xterra, what a piece of junk, my kidneys are still recovering from the poor ride.
Thanks again,
Rick
Elevatorguy
Thanks,
Todd
Happy Motoring,
Chris
Chris
Thanks,
Todd
$31,925 GMS Price
<$ 3,000> Rebate
<$ 500> Cash to dealer
<$ 250> GM Employee Incentive
<$ 695> On Star credit
<$ 2,173> GM Card (original black card)
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$25,307
I may still have another $250 coming as GM Bonus Cash, he is having to check. It was sent with my GM Card earnings. It may be the same as the employee incentive though.
The GMS rebate was $3,750, the first 3 items. In Texas there is a Texas truck rebate on trucks and SUVs. It's $500. That may be the only thing I did not get that I might have been able to. I pushed it a few times and the guy got annoyed, I was at a heck of a deal already so let it go after about the 3rd time.
It may not have been combinable with the GMS price, but I can live with the $500 loss over a few years
Luckily I checked the Cheverolet webpage a few days before and noticed the $695 off if you get an 03 TB with On Star. It's included on the LTZ. Didn't think they would take it, but sure enough they took my printout of the page and said ok. Said they didn't even know about it.
Pays to do your research.