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Honda Prelude 1997-2002

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  • Hey there - I'm new to this forum, but not new to the joys of the Prelude. I have a 2000 Type SH - Crystal Metallic Blue and I have loved it since day one. I have two children now and two car seats and my wife and I were considering trading it in for an Odyssey, but I just couldn't do it. So we're going to hold onto our Prelude and Subaru Outback wagon.

    I only have 42000 miles on it, so it is relatively young, but in reading your posts, it looks as if my clutch could go in the next 20k?

    How much did that cost you?

    Also, do you have factory brakes on yours or did you put on after market parts? I have to replace my front brakes and thought about looking around some. I don't race my car, but I do like to push it everynow and then. It is basically a commuter car to and from the airport on a weekly basis.

    Regarding tires, you said you put winter tires on it? What kind did you decide on? How do they handle?

    Keep your great posts coming! I'm very interested in hearing how your open heart surgery went! Good luck...
  • I'm new to this forum, so I thought I would open my question up to the community...

    I have a 2000 Prelude Type SH - Crystal Metallic Blue. Absolutely love it. I have to get the front rotors and pads replaced. Does anyone recommend using non-factory parts for any reason? I don't race my car and have never had a problem with braking performance with the factory parts, but I thought I would ask anyways.

    Thanks in advance!
  • Has anyone actually experience or felt their ATTS kick in when cornering?

    If so, can you describe it? I'm not sure that I have actually ever gotten it to engage. I'm sure it's there, but I don't know how to tell. I guess one way would be to find someone with the base model and take both cars out and try to corner in the same fashion in order to feel the difference.

    Also, when I first start driving my car, I hear a mechanical vibration (hum) that sounds like something is engaging or being balanced. It lasts maybe 1 second. It has done this since Day 1. Does anyone else hear that? Wondering what that is.
  • Hello there, I have a 2001 Type SH! As far as the ATTS kicking in I don't think it's something you can "feel" kicking in so to speak. The way the car corners at speed should be all the assurance you need :)

    As far as the hum noise, that is completely normal. It is the ABS pump that comes on each time you start your car. It does that to keep it from sticking. I love my prelude, it's one of the best front drivers cars out there.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    Wow...lots of questions that I can hopefully shed some light on for you.

    timothyaw is right about the hum being the ABS checking itself. Not to worry.

    Regarding the clutch; just like people, every car and situation is different. I actually had my clutch replaced at 52,000 miles. Now before you freak out and sell your precious prelude (j/K), my car's situation is a bit unusual. My Prelude basically spent a little more than the first two years of its life in NYC. I lived in Manhattan (parked on the street) and commuted to my job in The Bronx. My ride to work was great as there aren't too many people on the road before 7:00 AM going out of the city (reverse traffic). Coming home the traffic was atrocious, bumper to bumper, on and off the clutch between 1st & 2nd gear (3rd once in a while)...Then once I got off the exit it was time to drive around looking for a parking space on the street, stopping at every light (they aren't in sync going across town, and finally it always took a little bit extra getting my car into the spot with its abnormally wide turning radius (and my anal retentivness when it comes to parallel parking).

    I never noticed a problem or if the clutch was "slipping." One day driving I went to merge onto the highway. 1st to second was no problem, then the car wouldn't go into third unless I double clutched. I brought it to the dealer and he said the clutch was fried. He said the traffic killed it.

    I didn't replace it with another stock Honda clutch. I actually replaced it with a Centerforce Clutch which is much stronger than the stock Honda clutch.

    Replacing the clutch was NOT cheap ($1800 :confuse:)The ATTS unit has to be removed and re-installed in order for the clutch to be replaced. This results in a mandatory 5 hours of additional labor.

    Funny you have to get your pads and rotors replaced, I'm still on my factory originals at 72,500 miles! I guess part of the reason I went through a clutch (and still have the original brakes) is because I downshift all the time :P. If I were going to replace my pads and rotors (which I will do at probably 100K miles just for piece of mind), I would upgrade them. You can get a set of Brembro stock replacement rotors and PBR/AXXIS brake pads (popular with the BMW guys) that will outperform replacement geniune Honda brake pads/rotors and fit just the same.

    ATTS is infinitely variable. It is transparent. I'll be the first to admit that you might not know it is there for the most part. Supossedly it really helps at the track (I wouldn't know because I don't track my car). If you take a 10mph hairpin turn at speeds higher than posted and hit the gas at the apex of the turn, you can actually get the car to "pull itself" around the turn (or rotate the tail) and behave like almost like a RWD car. On a non-ATTS Prelude, the nose heavy FWD car would plow straight because the tires are overloaded.

    How long have you owned your car?

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    2 car seats huh? That's got to be interesting. I'll have to let my wife know about that. She's expecting our 1st child (a baby boy) in about 2 weeks. You have forward facing or rear-facing car seats? I'm sure the forward facing seats won't be too much of a problem, but the rear facing seat might limit nyccarguy jr's time in the Prelude for the first year.

    So my car has fully recovered. As you've read in my posts from the past week, I had quite a bit of preventative maintenance done on my car while I had the valve cover gasket replaced. First time my car has had major mechanical work done on it (besides my Sirius Radio, iPod connector, & Apexi World Sport Exhaust) outside the dealership. Here's the laundry list of things I had done: Timing Belt & tensioner replaced, Balance belt replaced, New Water pump, new valve cover gasket, new iridium tipped spark plugs & spark plug wires, new distributor cap, new pcv valve, & new cam seals.

    The guy who worked on my car was absolutely astonished at how mechanically clean my car is (especailly with over 72,000 miles). He said that usually he takes off valve cover gaskets and they are gunky and sludgy. He told me he could have taken the valve cover from my car and pretty much eat off of it. Synthetic oil every 4K will do that for you.

    My car is noticably quieter and throttle response seems quicker. With 72,500 miles my Milano Red 2001 Prelude Type SH is still pretty much as tight as it was when new. I love the way it handles & love the scream of the car when the car hits VTEC when I'm on the highway. It still looks good and draws compliments after I wash it. People who don't know too much about cars ar shocked that my car is a 2001.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    you asked about snow tires. I put 4 195/60 HR15 Michelin Pilot Alpin Sport snow tires on a set of 15" steel wheels for the winter. Knock on wood, I've never had a problem getting around in the snow. Car buried on the side of the street in the city after the plows roar by, no problem. Tracking on a snow covered highway, no problem. We also don't get THAT much snow here compared to some parts of the country, but when it snows, I have NO PROBLEM!

    Have you replaced your stock tires yet?

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • Congratulations! Regarding the car seats, I think I was able to fit an infant carrier on the passenger side but I don't recall if my wife was able to fit in the front seat. If she did, she against the dash. The things we do to accomodate our passions...
    Both my children (4.5 and 3) are now in front facing car seats. We don't do it often, but it works if we need to. The kids tend to kick the back of the seats, so we take off their shoes. I'm pretty confident I'll be able to make it through the car seat phase intact.
  • I replaced them with the same at 38k - a little early, I know, but they were fairly worn and winter was fast approaching and I didn't want to chance it.

    Thanks for the snow tire suggestion. :) I have a brother-in-law who is a car-junkie and he does a lot of his own maintenance. I think I'll get him to help me with the swap.
  • Thanks man! I asked the service department and they didn't know what it was. Scary.

    I'm into my 7th year of ownership and no problems so far other than normal wear items, so I'm really impressed thus far. I have a couple rust spots on the bottom of the driver door due to chipped paint, that I need to address, but no other rust problems, like the Hondas of old.

    Gentlemen, I think we have ourselves a winner for the long haul. Just too bad I don't have a 3 car garage!!!
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    You replaced your stock tires with other stock tires....ARGH! Next time go with a set of Z rated performance tires. I've got 4 Yokohama AVS ES100 tires on my Prelude as its summer shoes right now. I noticed the difference in handling immediately.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • Well I'm glad your service came out great! With honda's, if you change your oil regularly(I use synthetic) your engine will always be clean. With all that service your car is like new.

    Honda's are known to keep that "tight" feeling for years and years. Some of the best cars on the planet. But some of these new honda's and their mission, we'll just have to see. I would like to get my hands someday on a 06 BMW M3! The last year before they do a FMC. I've hear on the bimmer boards that alot of the people aren't too keen on some of the pictures coming out on the change. But I'll take the 06 M3. For now it's all Prelude. I'll always keep this car, no matter what other cars I get. It's a keeper ;)
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    So I had my latest accessory installed tonight. It won't make me go any faster, corner any better, or make my car more aerodynamically sound...it is my Peg Perego car rear facing car seat base. They give a class every 1st Tuesday night of the month at the Police Station. After a brief (and very informative) lecture on child safety in the car, they actually install the car seat for you so it fits right. The lady teaching joked she would need a few drinks and the jaws of life to get into the back of my car to install the seat base. It took her all of 2.5 minutes to fit it securely in the back of my car. "Easiest car I've done all night." she proclaimed.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    Hondas of recent years haven't really "done it" for me either. I remember my sister had a '95 Accord EX. It was light, handled well (thank-you double wishbones), had ample room & a well crafted interior. So it wasn't a speed demon. I think a new Civic has the same interior space of my sister's old accord. Like all cars, Hondas have gotten bigger and heavier. I used to be a "Honda Guy." Besides the S2000, I don't know of any Honda I'd buy if I were looking right now.

    I dig BMWs. They are such phenomenal driving cars. BMWs are the only cars that could replace my Prelude (imho) as far as having superior driving dynamics. Even the new 3 series is too soft for me. I can only hope for maybe a 2 series coupe with a Turbocharged 4 banger.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • Yeah I'm with you, I am a honda guy but lately I haven't been too thrilled with their offerings. Like you the s2000 is the only car out of all their vehicles (honda and acura) that would interest me. And I'm too tall to fit in a s2000, oh how I tried lol.
    But for guys like us, BMW is the only real other car company that really interest us. I've always thought of Honda as the little BMW. Honda has been known as having fun driving cars that are not expensive as BMW.
    I agree most cars today are getting too big, WAAAY too much techky stuff, disappearing manual transmissions, it all disguest me. That's why I'm keeping my good ole cars for now, until somebody wakes up and realizes that there are some people out there that wants a performance vehicle that is not too heavy, only has a cd changer in the dash. Like we said the s2000 is just this. The simple pleasures inside but the greatest effort goes into the performance. Awww how I wish for the days.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    "We" (The American Consumer) demand our cars be safer, roomier, technologically advanced, & faster. Adding safety equipment adds weight. Making cars bigger inside means adding weight. To cope with the added weight, you beef up the suspension (adding more weight). To make the car go faster you usually add some liters to the engine (more weight). So you end up with a car that is marketed as all new with X amount of horsepower, but it ends up not being that much better to drive than its predecessor.

    BMW did a great job by keeping the weight pretty close between the new E90 3 series & the old E46 3 series. But that comes with a price. The E90 BMW is going to be that much more costly to fix with all that aluminum in the front.

    FWIW, I like driving the E46 much better than the new E90. The E90 is a nice car, but too soft for my tastes.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • i am about to purchuse my first car and i was looking to a prelude and i really dont know that much about them cuz i really dont know many ppl who have them so i was wondering about what kind of power, and speed to expect and how it adapts to mods such as cai, exhaust and turbo
  • Hey NYC,

    everything still on track for your little one? good luck and bring a camcorder!

    to answer a question from sometime back:

    i definitely don't want to sell my prelude but i don't know that it will be able to be used for a 22 mile each way highway / city commute for too much longer. the civic si sedan might be a fun but economical car that could allow the prelude to hang on as a third car for a couple more years. if i get to test drive one, i'll definitely post my impressions.

    whatever happened to the h22 engine that was used in the prelude? did it "evolve" into the 2.0 liter engine used in the civic si? seems strange that such a good engine (one of ward's ten best engines for a bunch of years) would just dissipate into oblivion...

    how much does the 97 - 01 prelude weigh? i'm still getting right at 30 mpg average. last tank was 30.4 actually....

    atob

    1993 brittany blue green metallic prelude vtec
  • preludefan,

    i know exactly what you mean about taking the shoes off first! we've had to do that as well. there have been a handful of occasions that wife and our 5 and 2 yr olds have piled in the prelude and driven 30 minutes or so. fortunately, i'm usually driving so it's my wife whose knees have to eat the passenger airbag for the duration.

    regarding the clutch, i too replaced mine early at about 60k miles or so. the clutch was actually fine, but the third gear had some premature teeth wear. while they had the tranny apart i opted to have the clutch replaced so i wouldn't have to do it later. this was in 1997!

    enjoy the ride,
    atob
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,111
    Everything is still on track for nyccarguy jr. The wife is 2cm dialated as of this AM. Her due date is next Thursday. I don't think she'll last that long. Maybe this weekend! I'm so excited!

    I understand if you are thinking of parting ways with your Prelude. The Civic Si sedan would definitely be a viable alternative. LSD, sharp handling, Avante Garde styling... it would definitely be worth a test drive.

    I know that the curb weight for my car (Type SH) is 3042lbs. The base model comes in at under 3K pounds.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

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