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It's at the dealership today. I'll let you know how it goes. By the way, this is a great truck. I personally prefer the 2001 styling with the sport package. I plan to keep this one a while.
HEAD LINER NEAR DVD STILL RATTLES. DOORS CONTINUE TO RATTLE. FRONT END STILL VIBRATES. 4 NEW TIRES,THREE BALANCINGS.THREE ROTATIONS. THE HEAD LINER,DVD AND OVERHEAD CONSOLE HAVE BEEN VIOLATED SO MANY TIMES THEY ARE LUMPY AND FULL OF HAND PRINTS.DEALERS SAY TO CALL FORD,BUT I HAVEN'T CALMED DOWN YET. ANY IDEAS, I ALSO HAVE THE DOOR RATTLES AND VIBRATIONS
It's a shame that we have to deal with plastic turning yellow when the experts learned many years ago that glass will remain clear for decades and longer. Bring back the glass seal beams or something similar. Replacing the Expedition's plastic lens units just to get new front clear surfaces could cost hundreds?
The one thing missing in this discussion, that your dealer isn't telling you, is that an engine needs to to be inspected for cracks in the cylinder walls after a leaking/blown head gasket. Many times, these cracks can't be seen by the naked eye. Also, once anti freeze makes its way into the engine oil, the engine is pretty much toast in that everything needs to be pulled and cleaned. So, unless the can pull the oil pan while the engine is still in, I'd insist that the thing be pulled to be inspected and cleaned. They may be able to fix the heads with the engine still in, but there could be unseen damage that has already occured that will come back and bite you in the wallet later!
After getting home (45 minute highway drive), I realized why I have been so happy with my 1994 Suburban for the past ten years. It is still much smoother, after 120,000 miles, than the Expedition. The road just wears at you in the Ford. Sure, it feels tight and responsive around town, which is why I bought it, but I'm not looking forward to road trips in it.
Has anyone found a satisfactory solution to the vibrating steering wheel? Did I just buy the wrong car? Do they all feel this way?
The TRs do seem to skid fairly easily in wet conditions given the 5,800lbs for the FX4. Even though ABS and EBA work well, you have to be very careful in the rain stopping at certain places---the excessive weight of the FX4 will skid you right through downhill stop signs when wet. I know from experience.
In fairness, the old trusty 5.4L works so hard that the FX4 manages to be a bit nimble anyway. Also the rebirth of the 2wd high helps the mileage. But, in the larger picture what a missed opportunity by the Ford engineers to have made a really nice full sized suv by targeting it at a few hundreds lbs. less like Sequoia, new Durango, Nissan Armada, Tahoe?
(Many of the famous 123 improvements are actually downgrades for those of us with cargo but limited passenger needs. Also, seating room in 60/40 2nd row seats for a few large adults, versus too many seats designed for small children. These are for another day.)
Finally, where is Ford going with all the huge weights in the new 2004 F-150 and the 2003 and up Expedition models. And, only the very long wheelbases and tall rubber in the 2004 F-150s?
I guess it's the price we pay for the precision of the rack & pinion. Gonna have to have good rubber on it all the time.
In the Suburban, the steering is so numb, you wouldn't notice one of B.C.'s rock wheels under the truck.
The new discussion will use the name "Ford Expedition Owners: Problems & Solutions" and appear in both the Owner's Club area, the SUVs message board and M&R board as well.
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Agree with nvbanker on keeping good, balanced rubber on the road with the new R&P steering for Expedition.
For my money, I wish the new 4wd Expeditions still came with the old style R/B steering, with the R&P reserved as standard for the 2wd only. (note some of the Dodge models) There just seems to be too much front axle weight and quickness in 4wd Expedition to ever have comfortable driving with current version of R&P steering. FX4 a chore to drive daily to and from work. However, much better in other applications such as higher interstate speeds and boat towing.
I also replaced the chrome steel wheels with EB alloy wheels I bought on e-bay. Anyone need a set of ContiTracs on chrome wheels?
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But, that's just my opinion.
Are all the issues easily fixed with warranty service. I am about to check the Carfax records. Perhaps the problems have been fixed on the one I am looking at.
All help as soon as possible would be appreciated. I am getting ready to sign on the dooted line.
recently owned Ford suvs have been a selling point at trade-in instead of a negative that some might assume to be the case. Enjoying the Holidays I trust.
Thanks for the post on the Yokohama Geolander HT-S tires. By the way, has anyone ordered tires from www-tirerack.com? Seems like most stores would not be too happy putting on tirerack.com tires. Wal-Mart will usually grab your few bucks and actually do an excellent job (most locations) of mounting and balancing. One Wal-Mart without my asking actually used a torque wrench on the lugs nuts and offered to put some product on the threads. At another time, balancing was excellent at W/M on some drop dead bargain BFG Long Trail T/A tires I found at an auto parts store closeout for my son's 2000 Expedition E/B 2wd.
Don't hesitate to go for the 5.4L in the Expedition. My 5.4L in 4wd 2003 FX4 Expedition gets the same or sometimes better mileage than my wife's 2003 4.6L 4wd Explorer. 5.4L needs 5,000-10,000+ break-in miles to get the better mileage. Torque of the 5.4L spoiled my "GM guy" brother recently.
Anyone heard anything about the 5.4L 3v for Expedition? 3v would be very suitable for Navigator too.
Eddie Bauer Premier Package. Has anyone seen the Eddie Bauer Premier Package? Its listed on the Ford web site and it is a monochromatic paint scheme for about $800. Apparently, it is available only for Black and Red. IMHO the two tone Eddie Bauer looks nowhere near as upscale as the monocrhromatic Navigator and Denali. Of course, to paint the front and rear facia could be done locally a lot cheaper.
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Recently took it in to get brakes replaced and was told I needed 4 new calipers. I replace the brake pads about every 15,000 to 20,000 miles. The guy told me that this was too much. Took it to Monro Brakes and they said that the calipers were fine. Should I be getting more life out of the brake pads?
Also, it seems that I am burning oil. I put RESTORE oil additive into the oil. Any suggestions about how to determine oil burning and also any other additives that I should use. I use Mobil 1 synthetic oil and change it every 5000 miles.
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skilled types around town due to all the training at nearby Arnold AFB. Half the town have
Ph Ds in engineering and the there are techs all over from employment and training at the USAF wind tunnels Test world's top jet military and civilian aircraft, Space Shuttle, etc.
Has anyone had problems with 2003 Expedition 4wd system wanting to stay engaged much like old Ford models such as say 80-96 Bronco, pre 1997 F-150? When I flip back to 2wd from 4wh, the 2003 Expedition takes it good sweet time finding 2wd mode again. Have to back up, etc. like crude systems of yesteryear.
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The seal(s) have been worked on five times,only in winter,the right side leaks more than the left.The repair lasts 2/3 weeks and they start leaking again.One axle has been replaced,same result.