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Steve, Host
seems like the 2006 models will be coming sooner rather than later given they are showing 3 minute videos and have detailed info on the site already....
The Uk landrover site also has new info on the sport......
But anyway I am back because this vehicle is so compelling, inspite of all the glitches, breakdowns and meltdowns, I still want one of these trucks. And I hate to admit it, but it's all about ego. This truck makes little sense (for me), other than I will look great in it. I mean really, a Land Cruiser will be perfect, an all weather vehicle to meet my business and personal travel obligations, bulletproof, and bank vault reliable.......perfect! Just not as cool as owning a Range Rover would be. Shallow but true!
I thank you for helping to build a case for RR, btw, why did you state you would not recommend it for the highway??
I talked to a sales guy at a local auto-show a couple of days ago and he said ship dates for the big RR are September and for the Sport, June.
Looks like the new RR Sport underpinnings and interior is more LR3 than RR. Does anyone know if the 2nd. row seats fold flat like the new LR3?
Thnaks
Cost: $1202 to replace front/rear
I am keeping my fingers crossed that I don't have a lot of issues. It was between a Cayenne and this. I just sold my Touareg, so I couldn't get excited about the Cayenne.
We have an 03 RR now and while I really like it, I am intrigued by the larger selection of luxury SUVs that are out there now at a lower price point (including the new LR3 and the upcoming, cheaper RR Sport) and wondering about when it comes time to replace our RR, what we would look at.
Flickering compass display that there was no fix for. Air suspension fault messages that appeared and went away. Light fault messages that appeared and went away. A number of interior rattles that could not be fixed by the dealer. Key remote was worthless, would only work when right next to the car. And lastly we had noticeable take off lag and rough shifting. The software was updated, but it didn't smooth out the transmission.
If you spend time on some of the VW forums, you will see that my issues are minor compared to a number of owners. The biggest complaint I would have is the poor service provided by VW dealers. They didn't seem interested in really resolving the issues. The service I got on my previous two Rover's was much better.
Alternatively, you can use Bluetooth (wirelessly) with no dock... but a few features won't work.
Read the Range Rover Navigation & Telephone Systems manual for more information.
tidester, host
First Drive: Supercharged Range Rover V8
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12929-1521263,00.html
Steve, Host
My hunch is that you are not going to get particulaly unbiased opinions in this form, but here goes:
1. the Lexus is technically a 10 year old design
2. the Lexus has real ho-hum 1980's styling
3. the Lexus is classic big on the outside/small on the inside - what's with that long hood?
4. the Lexus has excellent build quality
5. The RR looks up to date
6. the RR has an interior that is really unique.. check the cherry trim
7. RR quality is excellent.. I have had 2 RR with ZERO problems
8. the RR off road ability, is light years ahead.
You say the LX470 has ho-hum styling, from the 1980's. I admit the current design dates back to 1998, yet I still think it looks modern enough for 2005. In contrast, I think the Range Rover is way to boxy. Couldn't they have thrown just a few curves in the exterior design?
The Range Rover does have good off road ability but so does the LX470. It is after all based on the legendary Toyota Land Cruiser.
The Lexus LX470 has way more cargo room than inside than a Range Rover. The max cargo a Range Rover can hold is 62 cubes, which is pathetic. That is the amount that a small SUV holds, not something the Range Rover's size. The LX470 can hold about 90 cubes.
Finally $73,000 is a huge price for the Range Rover. I wonder just how expensive the new 300 hp and 400hp versions will be?
Steve, Host
It would be safer if the trunk release left the trunk unlocked but it would be a security risk. What if you use the trunk release, put something in and left, and assumed that your trunk was secure?
Personally, I never use the trunk release because I know that unlocking the car lets me open the trunk via the outside latch. Like you, I'd rather have everything unlock and know that it's such.
I'm glad the Range Rover doesn't look like some boring, cross-over suv. It needs to keep its distinctive styling.
AGREED!
Talk about it in the Range Rover Sport - 2006 discussion.
And don't forget to vote.
Steve, Host
In 2005 Range Rover does come with automatic headlights. The 2005 does also have a newer navigation system than the Lexus (touch screen DENSO).
I have my eye on a 2004 LR Certified Discovery HSE7, but the Range Rover keeps calling my name. The dealer around here has plenty of '03 certified Range Rovers, but they are (obviously) more expensive. Assuming either could be handled financially, which would be the truck of choice? This might sound like a no-brainer to most people, but the Disco seems to suit my needs which are:
-Towing a 19' ski boat (Mastercraft X-7) up to Wisconsin (some towing on dirt roads/dirt boat ramps)
-Handling Chicago snow
-Driving/parking/living in downtown Chicago
I looked at some Chevys to tow the boat, but they would be a bear to deal with in downtown Chicago, parking and everything. Since it's an HSE7, the Discovery has the rear seating, 2 sunroofs, and the rear parking assist. It also has a navigation system, but it's not screen-based. I know the '03 Range Rover has a screen-based one. Does anyone know if it is touch-screen or not?
I like the look of both trucks, but obviously the Range Rover is more appealing. Any tips, or opinions? Is the Range Rover worth giving up the extra 2 seats for? And the price....worth an extra $20,000 for an '03 with more miles? The other hesitation I have is that I'm almost 6'3", and the Discovery is smaller up front than my '03 Durango I just sold.
Thanks,
-Matt
The Brits don't get automatic headlight switches - that's an old American trick, that the Japanese finally got used to, the Brits are the last to adapt. That, she's going to have a hard time fixing.....
please let me know- i am frustrated beyond belief-
this was the main reason for me going with the 05 over 04
Otherwise, except for the same frustration everyone else is having with connecting other Bluetooth phones than the few recommended by LR, my RR is GREAT without the old need to return to the dealer for fixes after the first day/week.
What color combo did you select? I'm favoring silver with navy luxury interior, or black with charcoal luxury interior. Excluding the 2k coupon, what % below MSRP?
It sounds like from your observations I shouldn't expect any crazy discounts like I saw on '04 Discos when the LR3 hit the market.
Wind Noise Corrective Actions
Reference: 76/10/03/NAS (3)