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Weaving is always 100% unnecessary.
About the only times I see weaving is either in very heavy moving traffic where all lanes are filled or where the weaver is driving way to fast. In both cases it boils down to "I'm more important than you, how dare you be in my way". Those people are going to kill themselves.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
No drop of water thinks it is responsible for the flood.
What is a reasonable speed? "Reasonable" is very subjective. What you consider reasonable others would consider unreasonable and vise versa. While you say that drivers driving at an unreasonable speed (to slow) are causing the congestion those drivers are likely saying that drivers driving at an unreasonable speed (to fast) are responsible.
True if the slower drivers drove faster there would not be the congestion, but then again that congestion would be avoided if the faster drivers drove slowly.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Try it sometime. Next time you are driving some distance in more open area let your foot off the gas, go a little slower, arrive a few minutes later. It's magical.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Are you kidding? Just wait until Geico reads his posts here.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Yes unless that one claim is because you hit someone so bad it put them in the hospital for 3 months and they incurred $200K in hospital bills. Then you're [word I don't think Edmunds would let me use].
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I would say that the vast majority of those LLCer's that I see are goint at least the SL. That is unless traffic is already to heavy to do SL.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
In a lot of cases, it really should just be more "catastrophic" coverage. So in 25 years you can handle a fender bender, but if it is a major claim, then insurance steps in.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
My guess is that there is a physcological reason for this in may cases. I would bet that alot of drivers don't realize they do it. It's just a natural reaction to match speeds with the "group". I know I have done it without even thinking, but when I have realized it I try to get back to my old speed.
Passing on the right is fine in WA anyway, here's the law:
I am pretty sure it is legal in every state as long as you don't leave the road i.e. you are in a designated lane.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
More than one state trooper has told me that the rational for getting the last one in the group is that they had at one time had to be going faster than the rest and would be going faster than the first if the first one wasn't blocking them.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Regarding reasonable speeds, the often woefully underposted limits are usually all I ask for. Come to my area, you'll find highways where too many timid inept drivers get white knuckled when they hit 50 in a 60 (405 was the context of the post you replied to). These people simply need to stick to secondary roads.
Hmmm...I see that one way street share the road ideal again. Shocking. Everyone slowing down to a rate that is even more dumbed down than what exists already is not a solution. The thought that going slower is "magical" proves there is some real devolution going on. This has to be the only semi-developed nearly-first world place on the planet with such a mindset.
Thats one of the reasons you have deductables, to cover the small stuff. But what may be small stuff for you might be catastrophic for another. Let's say for the fender bender, those can cost some bucks to fix. Last one I had the damage was just north of $2K (IIRC). Two years ago I would haven't blink an eye. Now with the wife having just gotten off of two years of unemployment $2K is a bit more money (but still doable). My kid who is just finishing up college $2K is a big chunck of money and would put him in a terrible bind.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
The thing is is that "reasonable" is rather subjective. What one considers "reasonable" another may not. Also someone may consider something "unreasonable" then may consider it "reasonable" once they learn more facts on the subject.
Let me ask you this; is it reasonable to have 9 speed bumps in about 4/5ths of a mile of a residential street?
Hmmm...I see that one way street share the road ideal again.
What "one way share the road ideal"?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Both the SUV and myself are in the left lane (right lane ends a bit ahead of us) and the SUV is doing just under 50 in a 45, no big deal for me so I just settle in behind him (her?). All of a sudden they start slowing down, fast enough to make me think they took their foot off the gas. So I figured that maybe they were about to turn so I merged into the right lane and started to pass maintaining my speed of about +/-50. As soon as I start getting a little in front of him he starts to gun it. :confuse:
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Reason I'm asking is that, around 7:30 this morning, I was aroused by the rumble of a big-rig type engine. Looked outside, and saw a couple fire engines blocking the road up the street. Then, I noticed that the top of one of the telephone poles, about 300 feet from my house, was at about half its normal height. I couldn't see the lower part of it, because it was partially blocked by evergreens that I've planted around the perimeter of my yard, to give me some seclusion.
But, I went down and looked, and near as I can tell, someone coming towards my house had veered onto the wrong side of the road, took out the neighbor's mailbox, and then went into the telephone pole hard enough to snap it in several places. There was a little bit of plastic debris scattered, but not too much. And, no vehicle to be seen, by the time I went out there.
I really hope that whoever did this wasn't able to drive off and get away, scott free. Plus, it did some minor damage to my place. There are two poles between my house and the one that snapped, but I guess there was enough vibration that it pulled the Verizon FIOS cable loose from where it attaches to the house. So, nothing irreparable, but it still annoys me.
One of the neighbors said he heard a noise around 5:00 in the morning, so that's when it happened I guess.
I would say yes. It all depends on force, speed, angle of the collision, how well the car is built and the condition of the telephone pole.
It is also possible that the car was towed away before you saw what was happening (and most likely).
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Yeah, that's my guess. Last time a telephone pole was actually snapped in my neighborhood, was back in 1987. It was the one right in front of my house. A drunk in an early 70's Ford pickup hit it, snapped it, and the impact was bad enough that it pulled the pole behind it down into my neighbor's pine tree, setting it on fire. That truck was destroyed, though.
Also back in the 80's, an early 70's Pontiac Ventura had hit the same pole, but didn't hurt it. Took out our mailbox as well. There was a scrape mark on the road, and out of curiosity, we followed it, about two miles. That's where we saw this horribly smashed Ventura sitting in someone's driveway and figured they'd been punished enough, no need to bring up the mailbox! Also back then, someone in a '78-79 Magnum hit a telephone pole about 600 feet up the road. No damage to the pole, but the passenger, who wasn't wearing her seatbelt, broke the windshield and left a horrible bloody spot on it. And that car wasn't driveable, as the wheel well pushed into the tire.
A few months ago, someone hit a telephone near my job, in a Mustang. Here's the result:
Sorry about the fence being in the way...
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Think about this, is it reasonable to ask tangental questions?
The one way share the road ideal is that everyone should make way for the slow/timid/scared/inept, not that those slow people ever have to make way for those actually driving. Sharing needs to be a two way street.
MB W140 or G-wagen could probably do that kind of damage and drive away :shades:
Unlike you, LLCs were rampant while I was out. It is mind-boggling how inconsistently many drivers' speeds can be on straight, flat roads. :confuse:
Yes. The slower drivers "make way" for those driving faster by keeping right. Then those going faster keep left and don't abuse (tailgate, honk, fingers, flash lights etc.) those going slower. It's not brain surgery here, folks.
The speedtrap mentality is indeed incredibly wasteful. Target that while other issues go unchecked.
Oh, another thing is there like here - slow mergers. So fun merging onto a lightly populated 60mph highway at 41mph.
Not 40 or 42, but 41?
What type of radar are you using to measure this?
I know he's a left lane dominator because for the next 6 miles he didn't leave the left lane even when the two right lanes were open. The middle lane was open about 70% of the time. I was laughing to myself because I was hoping he'd have a business logo on the van when he passed. His plate number doesn't come up when I searched the public records.
We were still in the high accident 45 mph zone where I was in the left lane to avoid the trucks that cause part of the accidents. Driver must have a neurotic need for power. I've enjoyed the speeding through the construction for the last 5 years in downtown Dayton. Because of the crossovers to handle traffic, there have been many rough areas. Early in construction on we had a pair of large dips northbound right after the 45 zone was posted. Of course most wanted to drive 65 or more. I saw an older (but agile) BMW leave the ground ahead of me when he went down and came back up out of the dip. High accident areas. Some city patrols for speed when they're not busy passing out speeding tickets near the donut shops.
Why not just slow down and share the road?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Out this morning, nothing bad while on foot, but when driving saw a woman in a Corolla pull out directly in front of a Quest moving at ~35mph. People like that deserve to be t-boned hard right at the driver's door.
Although I have to say, I think "slower traffic keep right" applies perpetually, signed or not. Still, he should have passed on the right rather than dangerously tailgating.
Someone deserves to be killed or seriously injured in an auto accident because they made a mistake? Wow.
OK. So we all encounter these guys from time to time. Maybe just let it go. Move over into the one of the two "open"right lanes and let the guy go. That was easy.
That's right. That's all he needed to do rather than flash his headlights at someone going over the speed limit in a construction zone and high accident area because the interstate has a high truck load. When someone doesn't seem to think their truck has a steering wheel to turn right and change lanes, who knows what kind of crazed things that person will do if I try to make a legal lane change and use my turn signals and all that obeying the laws about lane changes. He can't even follow speed limits.
I was traveling at and above the posted speed limit in an area with no signs for "Slower traffic keep right."
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I think that the important thing here is to not challenge someone who might be going over the limit and wants to go even faster and wants to pass. Should someone be a traffic and speed limit enforcer? Don't think so. How difficult is it to just LET IT GO. Move over. Let them go faster if they want. What is so hard about that?
Odd that you'd stay in the left lane, knowing full well that you were not passing or the faster car on the road.
What I see are two dominators on the road... fighting for dominance over each other, regardless of consequence.
Odd that you, once again, would try to paint me as at fault for being in the left lane of 3 (4) lanes. Remember I had just come through a dangerous, narrowed lane, and uneven construction area where the speed limit is and should be 45 and the traffic is moved to the temporary opposing lanes. The truck came out of nowhere, most likely having sped through the construction at 65 and was coming up catching me just as I was speeding above the limit by 5 or so. The limit have just risen back to 55 on a completed area of the construction.
When someone starts in being a dominator, I just wait for them to leave the area so it's safe to merge to the right more lanes. Note, that in 6 more miles after he passed on the right without spending 1/2 mile trying to push me out of his lane, he didn't leave the left lane once even though both right lanes of 3 were open and the middle lane was open for driving at his 5 or so over 65. Never moved over once. A big clue for the LLD status.
You'll be happy to know I drove 80 or so miles to OSU campus yesterday on a mostly 3 lane interstate and I was in the right hand lane 99% of the distance. Hardly a left lane cruiser.
I did get to see a couple of potential LLD's get stopped by the OSP. I was watching the OSP plane making tight circles and was feeling sorry for the people in the plane probably getting dizy, but I knew they were probably following a target for the ground car to stop. There was one OSP car active on the opposite side of the interstate with a violator on the side already. Lo and behold here came 2 OSP cars merging into traffic and each singled out an SUV and their lights came on. Two more violators slowed. They were caught in the left lane and actually pulled onto the median berm rather than to the right hand berm for their traffic stops.
The OSP still had the plane out on my return trip an hours or so later, but only had one active car making stops that I could spot.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
The truck driver should not have driven in a "dominating" way in the left lane.
However, you should have done everything reasonable to get out of the way of the dominating driver... just let him get by you so you could get to a safer position on the road, one with less stress and risk of an accident. You say you wait for dominators to leave the area. Instead, YOU should be the one to "leave the area" as soon as it's safe for you to do so. You have control over your actions. You can't control what other drivers will do.
It has nothing to do with being a "left lane cruiser" or not. It has to do with driving defensively, and taking whatever actions are prudent to lessen the risk of an accident or violation.
Not a bad drive, saw 2 turners from the wrong lane - jerky middle aged exec type in a late model Range Rover, phone to ear, right turn from left lane on a 4 lane arterial. Prime candidate for fines based on finances. Then someone I won't describe in an Odyssey (if you are local, I bet you can guess), left turn from the right lane of a similar road. Saw a few other phone users, no crosswalk crowders.
A couple seconds later, he's in the left lane two cards behind me.
Then in the right, then left, right, left.....
I counted 18 lane changes in 3.5 miles which placed him in the right lane barely ahead of me, at which time he turned into the parking lot of an office building. All those lane changes to advance three positions and get to work five seconds earlier!
What's up with that?
They always are crying for more money, yet this is a great source of revenue....
:confuse:
I swear, at any given moment here, at least a quarter of the "drivers" on the road are not really driving.
What's worst is that they waste effort with public information campaigns about "laws", then do a negligent job with enforcement.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2013/01/15/west-bridgewater-crack- s-down-texting-while-driving-police-discuss-challenges-enforcement/FK5GRdkS4WIIY- d3lMu1i8M/story.html
And a little more positive news on this front...
http://www.distraction.gov/content/dot-action/enforcement.html
Make any phone inputs/holding while in motion a violation. Syncing to bluetooth, using speakerphone, anything. And again enter the cameras. Make refusing to use integrated bluetooth an additional fine. And implement wealth based fine scales.
And really, give the fines more teeth.
It might be difficult, but that's life - some parts of all of our jobs are more difficult than others.
Or if revenue enforcers refuse to do this because it isn't easy, let them enforce turn signal and crosswalk regulations, which also seem to go ignored.
Driving home tonight: 400 year old woman in a Prius, getting dark out, no lights, going 30-35 in a 40 where everyone goes 45, so every car was zooming by, and she was a pylon. I didn't know whether to feel sorry or annoyed. Then got behind a typical older suit in a LS460AWD - slowly takes off at green, one lane left turn onto 2 lane road, he swings wide into the far right lane with no signal, crawls, gets into left lane, crawls. I think he was holding something. Local car too, so no lost excuse.
Only saw 1 other no lights car, an Edge with some senior ladies in it, parking lights only. Maybe those were the automatic lights?
While jogging, I am in a crosswalk on green, grey 08-10 or so Accord cuts in without looking, misses me by a small margin, I throw up my arms in an Italian palms-up style gesture, and the driver yells at me :confuse: . Ah passive-aggressive Seattle. He then drives slow, yaps some more, but quietly - couldn't understand him. I was going to say something funny like "I'm not interested in a date, sorry", but I was short on breath and not feeling it. So I said "go away", and slowly, he did. In Florida, that would probably get you shot.
All the comments about people driving without their lights on makes me think that'll be the next NHTSA requirement. Auto headlights in all cars, including a rain sensor. The auto lights and auto wipers are pretty nice in the in-law's Buick.