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'04 Wagon to get the great rebates. Nothing left without the moonroof.
I'm 6'6", and I found that moonroof took away too much headroom.
After wasting my time with Morries Mazda looking at an '04 Demo Wagon
with no options and 4300 mi (they wanted $17,500), I found an '04 Wagon
with some nice options and no moonroof in Des Moines, Iowa. I found it
using the inventory search at the mazdausa.com web site. This one had
an MSRP of $25875 and I drove it away for $18103 + $74 in fees (not
including MN taxes which I paid later). This included the $1000 rebate for
financing with MAC at the standard rate.
White with Black Leather interior
Options:
Cargo Net
Compass Mirror
Roof Rack
Wheel Locks
Luxury Package
Sport Package
I'm very happy with it so far. Ramsey Mazda in Des Moines did a great job.
RHV
$500 auto show rebate
Mazda6 $5000 clearance rebate
and I qualify for a $500 grad rebate
thats a base of $6,000 under MSRP.
Down payment is 4000-5000
My OTD price needs to be 15000 to stay around $300 a month on Mazdas 8.0 APR
That puts me around 25K MSRP, Give or take
You think Im going to be able to move into a New 04 Sedan loaded with Luxury, Sports and Bose package?
It all depends on what's left and if you can find something you like. That was my problem more than getting the deal I wanted. I had to drive a little, but it was worth it.
P.S. Has anybody gotten in trouble paying off the high standard MAC rate? I got a 6.9% loan to get the extra $1000 back. I intend to pay it off (or way down) right away unless there's some penalty. I asked the dealer for any fine print about a minimum term and he said there was none. So basically I'm asking - has anybody paid off the MAC loan right away and gotten their hand slapped?
RHV
Whats up with MazdaUSA.com's MSRP values. They list a 2004 with luxury package, sports package, bose and moonroof at $26.920 MSRP
a 2005 6 S with the same features MSRP is $26,083
Is this why they can offer the rebates?
When I bought mine the dealer said I need to wait 4 months to paid it off, but I can paid extra per month, otherwise MAC will charge them some fee and they will charge me back. I also knew a lot of people pay their load off or refinance the next day without any problem. If your dealer said you can paid it off the next day, then do it, MAC will charge them fee not you.
I paid about $18,000 out the door for mine which had an msrp of $21K.
Basically, take the MSRP, and you should be able to get about $6500+ off MSRP.
Look at the contract - but a while ago there was a discussion on that and some said 3-mos, but when I asked people at the dealerships they weren't aware of any restrictions. In fact, the sales manager encouraged me to refinance after a month.
If it doesn't specifically say in the contract, they can't do anything. You only should wait until you have your title/license plates - which in Texas took a little over 2-weeks.
Negotiating on 2 models, both new.
2004 Mazda6 S Sepang Green
5-sp auto
Boase, Luxury, Sports, Moonroof, Locks
MSRP: 26,920
Im asking: 19500 (with edu discount)
2004 Mazda6 S Glacier Silver
5-sp auto
Bose, Luxury, Sports, Moonroof, Side Bags
MSRP: 27,340
Im askingL 19999 (with edu)
Thats
$4000 incentive
$1000 financing
$500 auto chow
$500 edu
$1500 in negitiations
wish me luck
Im going in asking 17,500 after rebates, thats 23,500 before rebates, 3,400 off MSRP.
They won't bite...but they say to start low, at or below dealer invoice.
Dealer paid 17,900 with a 455 mazda holdback.
Lets see where it gets me...its game time.
Brand New 04 mazda6 S Sports Sedan
3.0 V6 5-sp Auto
Silver
Sports PKG w/ spoiler
Luxury
Bose
Moonroof
Side Airbags
27,430 MSRP
26,120 Dealer Price
5,000 rebates
2500 down
best of all...13500 for my trade!!! They tried lowballing me 3 times, starting with 11,200. 13,500 was the number I need to make it worth my while in tax savings.
Actual OTD price after rebates...21,120
6,310 off MSRP
Hows it sound? There were only 5 AT fully loaded sedans in my 5 state area.
So there are no restrictions, and they really don't care that people do it.
I think that at this point of the year the dealers should just go to a no hastle pricing to get rid of the cars because it seems like most people are getting around the same pricing on all the cars. Take invoice price, subtract the rebates, and you are within a couple hundred dollars.
The price you got sounds pretty nice.
Automatic
Bose speaker and 6 CD changer
Moon roof
Spoiler and Cargo net
Compass mirror
Side sill extension
Chrome appearance package
and so on
There is also a VIP program from the dealer (basically just free car wash + free road assistance)
The MSRP is $27100 and the outdoor price with tax and license fee is $29157. After nearly 3 hours negotiation, we got the outdoor price including tax, license fee and everything at $19600 with a full tank of gas.
It's almost $10000 off from the original outdoor price. We are so happy with this deal. The only bad thing is my wife won’t let me drive as she loves the handling so much. The engine is smooth and the extra space in this wagon is very functional. We benefit a lot from the post in this board and hope our experience is helpful for you guys. Good luck on your Mazda purchase.
Wondering what price I should be looking to pay on that model. Did you get any good feedback on Canadian prices?
Here's a quote I was given by a dealer. Looking at the things people are saying here, I think I could go back with a much cheaper counter offer:
msrp 34,560
discount (2,205)
freight/pde 925
air tax 100
gas tax 75
metallic paint 105
administration 90
Total 33,650
I appreciate your feedback.
Clive
i was told by my dealership that my state is backed up, and I wont see my title for at least 2 months...and that the title is needed to refi. They also asked me to make at least 3 months of payments.
Forget that!!! Im in at 7.9, gonna refinance with the teachers credit union at 3.95!!!
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
Considering that the car is a year old and thus has depreciated at least 10% and likely closer to 20%, the 7% discount the dealer is offering is paltry. Ask the dealer what the exact build date for your vehicle is (there's a label on the driver side doorway) and remind the salesman that this is an older model. Why not check online for your area and the rest of Ontario for prices of low mileage used Mazda 04 sport wagons to get an idea what the price is now that it has depreciated in value? Also, you seem to have picked a model that is well equipped (due to good taste, no doubt). According to Consumer Reports, Kelly Blue Book and other sources well optioned versions usually depreciate faster than their base models; in other words, the top of the line used vehicle usually loses the most value. So, you may want to consider the price of the base model as well as your model in your searches. Additionally, you can always remind the dealer that he has some excellent competition from Toyota and Honda. Finally, everyone has to make a living, so don't be surprised if the salesman does not agree with your counter offer.
Let us know how you make out.
I took the difference between a new and used, and evaulated if that was enough to pay for a full warranty, and no miles. Turns out it was!!!
This car is nearly two model years old.
I'd offer 17,000 at the most, plus they waive the conveyance fee, whatever that is.
Looks like the vehicle I quoted was sold.
I've found a few more 04's in the area that are definitely cheaper, though they have 7-10k on the clock rather than the 53km the sold one had.
Fortunately no rush for me, so I'll proceed with Due Diligence.
Cheers,
Clive
thanks JM .
The car is going to be my wife's driver and she puts about 30k/year on the odometer because of her long commute, so when I thought about it, it seemed like actually a better deal than buying new (because she will blow through the remainder of the 4yr/50k bumper-to-bumper in a little over a year).
it has 4920 miles on it. `
It wonders me how dealers fail to mention small descripiances like this when they quote new car prices !!!!!
You're wise not to rush, Clive. That is one of the biggest advantages, I believe, we consumers have in the madness called car buying.
My Mazda dealer uses autotrader.ca as one source for used car pricing.
Visiting various dealerships may be helpful in determining with whom you would like to deal once you're ready.
Is that true?
Good luck
Im in Ohio, the price Im getting now is:
2005 mazda6 i sport sedan 4 door sports model.
MSRP: 22905
Out of door (include all the fee): 19461.15
And my target is reducing the OTD to 18500, is it possible?
BTW: I also wanna know if there is any rebates for April? Im struggling between low APR or 1000 MAC, which one is better?
Any suggestion will be very appreciated, Thanks:)
Sounds like an excellent price. A few questions:
- Did you buy the GS V6?
- How many kilometres at the time of purchase? Was this a demo by any chance?
- Was there any PST along with the GST?
- Do you remember the Freight/PDI charges?
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
unfortunately, Im in cleveland area. There's few 04 model left and the color is also good. so maybe the only choice is 05.
And Im just waiting for the incentive April, see what will show up
HOWEVER, the car has a stickshift- which I've always wanted to drive. But with the rebates ending today (and so tempting), and moving cross-country in a few weeks, I'm wondering whether to spring for it.
If I knew the rebates would stay the same- or get better- next month, and I had another couple of days to think, I'd feel better considering it. After all, I've been wanting a 6 for the past 3 years- and the Volcanic Red (I believe)was on the Tokyo Auto Show Atenza I saw back in 2002 that began my love for this car- and this one has everything I would want.
So should I do it today, or will the rebates continue?
Congrats!
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
The guy bought the car 2 months ago for $32,000 - there's $31k left to pay.
I can take over the 0% payments, but still to me the cars not worth that much - mind you in taking over the payments I don't pay GST apparently.
I feel like offering him no more than 26k but then he'll have to pitch in 5k out of his pocket, which I can't see him being too happy about.
I think it was you who mentioned the madness of car buying - what a circus! :0)
Year: 2004
Make: MAZDA
Model: MAZDA 6
Model Detail:
Price: $29,999
Mileage: 22,000 km
Date: 4/1/2005
Ad Type: Private
0% INT, NO GST
Comment: Auto, 4 dr, 3.0, 6 cyl., grey ext., bl. int., GFX pck, fully loaded without leather, 7 yrs of extra warranty, added remote start and tints. Best offer or take over the payments at 0% int with small downpayment. 22,000 km, $29,999.
Better or Worse?
3.9% APR for 60 Months (1)(2) OR up to $2,000 Customer Cash (3)(4)
Wow! That's a lot of driving if you consider the average is 20K per year. I would check for paperwork regarding original purchase and subsequent maintenance work performed; he would have had to have had at least 2 oil changes. Then, I would ask how he would feel about an independent garage performing a vehicle inspection as a condition of sale; if this does not suit him, I would move to the next prospect. As a sign of good faith you may want to say that if you don't buy the car the inspection would be paid by you; if you do buy the car it comes out of your offer.
Considering the mileage the car would be treated as a year old; depreciation would be about 20% so you're right to offer $26K as a start and possibly accept $27K. I am assuming you meant the price before GST. With GST the price works out to approximately $28K (which seems okay) to $29K (which seems high). And yes that will be a tough pill to swallow for him. I would not offer him $30K or anything close to that.
p.s. I must be missing something because if he owes $31K and is selling it for $30K it sounds like he will owe you money to take over the payments.
Yes, in this situation he will have to pay me or the dealership monies for me to take over the payments. Apparently I won't have to pay any GST to do this.
For your entertainment, below follows our communication to date - thanks again for the advice:
That is lower than I have expected, however due to certain circumstance
I have to sell the vehicle within the next 2 weeks.
I will keep your offer in mind just in case .
Thank you.
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To: 'Radzio'
Subject: RE: Offer on Mazda 6 . . .
My advice is to stay in there for the long run.
The most I would be willing to pay for the vehicle is $26k
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To: 'Walltec (80) Inc.'
Subject: RE: Offer on Mazda 6 . . .
Hello,
The car is in perfect condition and it still has 7 years warranty on it.
I am willing to let it go for reasonable price.
I only drove the car for the last past two months.
How much money am I willing to lose? The less the better.
I believe 28-29 is a reasonable price for the vehicle.
Make me an offer if you’re interested.
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To: 'Radzio'
Subject: RE: Offer on Mazda 6 . . .
Hello,
I understand what you are saying.
The unfortunate thing about cars is nobody makes money on them. The car looks very nice but because it has done 22,000km it is worth allot less than you are asking.
The question is; how much money are you willing to lose?
Thanks.
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To: 'Walltec (80) Inc.'
Subject: RE: Offer on Mazda 6 . . .
Hello There,
I don’t want to make any money on the car. All I want to do is sell it or give the car to good hands.
The vehicle has extra remote starter, tint installed after the purchase.
It comes with 7 years full warranty and Mazda road assistance program.
Attached you will find more pictures for your convince.
Thank you
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To: 'Radzio'
Subject: RE: Offer on Mazda 6 . . .
What’s left to pay?
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To: 'Walltec (80) Inc.'
Subject: RE: Offer on Mazda 6 . . .
Sorry that offer is simply not acceptable.
I bought the car 2 months ago and paid 32,000$
The car has 7 yrs warranty on it (which was purchased extra for 2000.00)
The car’s payments can be taken over at 0% finicing.
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Subject: Offer on Mazda 6 . . .
$24,500
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