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thanks.
Your experience may be different. I am getting between 31 and 34 mpg in mixed but mostly highway driving.
Again, as always, Thank you
I looked at the new Corolla, Camry, xA, and the tC. I chose the xB for its utility and comfort. This is my 15th Toyota. I drive 80 miles a day minimum. I took the xB for an extended test drive through city and on the interstate and was never disappointed. The big question is it better than the Celica that I just sold today.
I owned a Santa Fe for four years and gave a lot of problems and also the Santa Fe eats gas like an 8 cylinder car. Additionally, the road noise on the Santa Fe is absolutely horrendous.
I am also going to buy me "The Box". I currently own an Expedition and with the prices of gas I need the box for errands. I already test drove it and I am very pleased with the results.
Smart move on your part.
I just want to thank you for your observations which I now read very attentively.
Thank you so much for your input.
Much appreciated.
Gil Lucas
I asked the toyota dealer in South Florida (Miami) how much adding the cruise control would cost and I was quoted $359.00 dealer installed.
Indeed $575 is way high.
Gil Lucas
I can accelerate up a grade in 5th from 60 to 65 mph, no need to downshift.
Roughly $1330 was fees and sales tax. The car is still a good deal. However, 4 and some payments on the car is just paying to ship it, tax it, and handle it. Now consider the dealership I went to had cheaper fees.
It could at least use a stronger engine and side curtain airbags.
Wow, if I'd been able to buy one at that price I'd be owning one now (actually the normal sedan which I like better). But GM priced them too high and was too slow rebating them when they came out. I wasn't willing to pay "list". But at that price - I'd do it (or would have done it). Let us know the details - your equipment and the sticker price. let's go off topic for just a moment....the whole appeal of the Scion is the "set" but "good" price, but deep discounting the fine Malibu makes it worth considering...as you did.
Base Maxx has trip computer (with mpg, miles to fill, two trip meters, etc), movable pedals, power seat (up and down only), back seats that recline and move back and forth 7 inches, automatic headlights, nags at me to watch out when its wet and temps near freezing, back that makes into a picnic table, power locks mirrors and cruise, front seats that flip and turn into tables and a back fixed sunroof with strange little rollup shades-- a veritable swiss army knife full of crap.
Lots of people hate Chevy dealers, but I've had good luck with past cars. Stronger bunch around St. Louis than Toyota and certainly Hyundai. Plus even though it's odd looking (a bit like a giant Chevette)-- though not as strange as an xB it's a Chevy underneath. Any local garage should be able to work on it when the short 36K warranty runs out.
Seating surfaces aren't up to the xB's quality, especially in the base car and I miss throwing the 5 speed Elantra around, this still seems a bit too large but I'm liking it more and more.
I'm averaging 25 mpg around town-- pretty damn good for a car with a 3.5 liter v-6 and an automatic. Does just about as good as my '01 Elantra.
If I'd still had my GM card and was still a Chevy owner I could have picked it up for a bit over thirteen. Too bad the Maxx is so odd for the typical Chevy buyer that sales are disappointing. Wouldn't surprise me to see it dropped when platform changes are made. Too bad, since it's the spiritual heir to those big old Saab hatchbacks of the eighties and nineties.
The strange thing is at the autoshow last year, middle aged folks were loving this piece O c**p! I thought this was supposed to be for kids?
It appeals to practical people, but maybe not to trollers.
"I guaranty that if that same cube on wheels had a Ford, GM or Chrysler name badge nobody would touch it! "
That's because everything would fall off it. Door knobs, handles, tranny leaking, bad head gaskets, etc. all seem to be trouble on American cars. I know , I own 2 Chevy's and a Ford. You don't have those kinds of issues in the Toyota cars. They still have their problems. but not to the extent of the Big 3 makers. Resale is always better on Honda's and Toyota's too. Most American cars lose 20% of their value in the 1st year of ownership. By the way, It's quite obvious that your education needs a little work. I guaranty it. "Let's get 'er done!"
"I can put it 5th at 40 mph as the gear ratios are low... I can accelerate up a grade in 5th from 60 to 65 mph, no need to downshift... (but) 3500 rpms @ 60mph was a bit much... The 5 speed xB was cranked up a lot more than the automatic. Think it runs at least 500 rpm faster at 70."
So the xB with manual must be a very different experience than the xB with automatic. Manual would be for quick, sporty driving. Automatic would be for quiet highway cruising and better mileage.
I got five options with the vehicle. Fog lights are a must. I'm 34 and going blind each day. I also put the strut bar in. The cheaper options were the rear bumper applique, door sill extensions, and the carpet mats. I also bought a titanium shifter to match the interior, but I really like the one that came with the car.
My last car was a 91 Celica GT. It had more HP at 130 and got 32 mpg. However, I believe that my xB will get better mileage as it gets broken in. Performance is about the same.
At one time I owned for 10 and a half years, an 89 Corolla GT-S. It turned 3400 at 60, but it readlined at 7700 rpm. It was noisy on a long drive. The Scion xB is much much quieter. I think the big reason is the sound deadning (spelling?) material.
If I am not mistaken, the Auto does have better gas mileage figures. I may be wrong, though.
The rule of thumb, if it needs professional attachement, buy it with the car. Otherwise, I would compare price it. If its significantly cheaper, then I would buy it after getting the car.
There is no wiggle room on the options when you get the car. However, I did notice that the dealership did cut down the Fog Lights by $75. I still haven't figured that one out yet.
The question: Has anyone bolted in a supercharger for their xB?
If so, I've got a couple questions:
-Is it worth the $3k+ and 7-9 hour install?
-Can an amature(sp?) mechanic manage the install or should it really be left to a pro?
-I'm assuming it the SC requires a jump to at least 89 octane, does it require full premium or would the middle grade be good?
Thanks in advance for any help!
Just kidding - perfectly appropriate question for this discussion
kcram
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Question: Is Cruise Control available as a factory option? I did not see it listed in either the Scion brochure or at Edmund's pricing for the Scion xB.
I picked up a cargo mat today for mine.
You may get lucky and get a reasonable dealer.
I only have 120 miles to 1000. Then I can drive faster. I have had vehicles including tractor trailers get on my bumper just to see what I am driving. I actually had all three lanes on the interstate staring the other day. The car attracts lots of attention.
Toyota will not increase delivery to the USA as Chrysler did with the PT Cruiser.
Personally, I do oil changes every 3000 no matter what. Toyota's interval is 7500 as far as I know.
I have 850 miles on mine now.