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Unrelatedly this cars looks really good when it's clean but it doesn't wear dirt well I've noticed.
One thing I would like to ask is the car seems generate a small humming sound under the dash when I speed up. The sound only exist between 35 to 50 mph. Past 50, then everything back to normal. Does anyone has similar condition? (Mine is auto trans.)
Previous posts either here or on Scion World have noted a buzz under the dash. I think the dealers have a fix for it.
It is a change in the gear ratio , a tightening of the rpms in vs out, a reduction of the slippage within the fluid coupling of the automatic transmission. If this is breaking-in, it seems like a new twist. At least the change is in a desirable direction.
Also business are replacing Chevy Astro vans.
There is a flower shop in my town, and a computer center down the road.
The day before I picked up my 'Camo-Box' the dealership sold their 2005 Yellow release to a 50's something couple. The lady spotted it - said "I want it" - and they took it right then and there.
They let the tC go as a trade for my xB. This could be a product of our area. There is, however, a 'tricked-out' silver one about 4 miles from my house.
ThanksMuch
Chris of the JamesGang
- A little bigger engine for carrying people with the automatic, and to drop the rpms some more.
- Sound deadening mats in the roof and doors.
- A little redesign of the front end, to reduce the horizontality and the fat lower lip.
I was surprised at how tight the engine is against the grille. As I remember, there is no radiator in front of the engine. The radiator and the air conditioning condenser are below the grille, stretched across the inside of the bumper. It may not be possible to redesign the front with mechanicals in the bumper.
Phil
On the xB there are side skirts and air dams front and rear. Theoretically you could remove these to improve clearance, but you'd probably damage the car. The xA has more clearance because it doesn't have these skirts.
I'd add that 17" aftermarket wheels and tires are usually sold in about $2,000 packages, of which about 50% is dealer profit, so the salesman is just trying to make money or terribly informed. The most clearance you'll ever have is to stay stock (no lowering springs). You can Plus 1 - go to 16" wheels and tires - which gives crisper handling and a slightly harder ride. the 17" are mostly for look, there is very little tire to protect the rim and they ride very hard.
I avg'd about 30-31 mpg when I first got the Xb. I broke it in for the 1st 1000 miles according to regular breakin practices. My mileage seemed to gain by 4 mpg after I changed the oil at 3k. I also top off the tank with as much fuel as the neck will handle due to the amount of driving that I do. Also check your tire pressure. The tag on the door says 29 psi, but I use 32 psi. The ride is a bit stiffer, but I believe handling and mileage are better.
there are options for the sides. I have read posts on Xb forums where others have purchased magnetic door moldings. Apparently when they park the Xb they pull these out and stick them on the sides. Now they could get stolen or they may scratch your paint. Another option is to buy body side moldings for another type of car and place them on your Xb. You can order them from various parts web sites or from an auto body shop near your house. and are inexpensive. They are simple to install. You peel the backing off the double sided tape and press on the clean car. A body shop will also paint them to match your Xb.
Ross
No problematic issues to note with the exception of the transmission (man) occasionally being pissy about going into 2nd, 3rd and reverse.
I have had 17 inch wheels on my car since mile 50. I originally opted for the Nanking 205/40R17 that are H rated. I went with H composite because the closer you are to Z the softer the composite and the poorer the tread life. To get that longer tread life you sacrifice max mph (which is no biggie... the xb tops out @ 120, and the H is rate to 134), but more importantly you sacrifice so grip... softer the rubber, the stickier it is to the road.
THE NANKINGS WERE A MISTAKE! By 18K miles I had to replace all 4 tires... luckily discount tire worked with me to get some z rated Falkens (215/40R17). The Falkens have a prorata 30K mile warranty so I'm happy, but it still puzzels me how a Z rated is expected to out perform a H rated on treadlife.
Since last update I have lowered it 2 inches and added a generic aftermarket sport muffler and new exhaust pipe minus the resonater. I have seen at least a 1-2 mpg increase in fuel efficentcy. I average about 28.8MPG (70%HWY)... and i still see better MPG when I drive city vs. highway.
Again my door is open to questions or info sirradiodude@yahoo.com
-will
I was hoping to exceed 40 mpg - but you can't have everything
I don't know of many cars besides hybrids that get better gas mileage than the xB.
VW diesels at 47-50 mpg are about the only ones I can think of. And they are more expensive than xB by about $5000 on average.
Ross
I've heard there are places on-line that sell replacement front grills in all sorts of styles and materials. Any recommendations?
P.S. Clearance is no problem like I was told. Thanks.
1st, I was promised the car with the color and features I wanted was ready to be driven off the lott early one day. Later that same day the sales person tells me that the car was no longer available and on top of that that it will take weeks to get one like it. It took almost 2 weeks and one was found for me. I waited that long because I wasnt in a hurry and Toyota makes cars worth the wait. Right?
2nd, when I drove the car off of the lot it was pulling severely to the right. A week after that I dropped it off at one of the local Toyota service departments here in the Denver area. They said that the alignment was found to be a little off and it was fixed. The car was still pulling to the right, not as bad. I delt with it because I was busy.
3rd, a month passed, the weather got really warm and when I went to turn on the A/C. It did not work. I decided to take the car in to get both the alignment and the A/C checked. They called back to say that the condenser was punctured because a rock apparently flew in through the grill and did the damage. I was shocked to find this out, the car had less than 3k miles and already I have to shell out $1000 on getting it fixed!!!!!! From looking at the grill its apparent that its opennings are large, wide, close to the surface of the road, and begging for debris to fly in to do some damage. Colorado is known for it high amount of gravel on its roads.
4th, I have protested the whole deal with the service department's management and was told that they wont do anything for me. I contacted the people at Scion's customer experience (head quarters). Went back and forth with them for over 3 days and eventually they agreed to cover half of the cost in good will. Although I am not really happy with paying a cent, half is better than nothing. So I set up an appointment to have the car fixed first thing in the morning (7am) next day. I was told the part was in stock and was quoted for 3 hrs of labor so I figured that by noon it should get done. 1pm came along and I hadnt heard from them. So I called (I was always calling them when I was promised a call) and was told that by 2pm it will be ready. No call from them at 2 so I called again and this time to find out that the part they had in stock wasn't the right part. I spoke with the manager and he looked into the matter but only to find that the condenser is nowhere to be found in the US!!!!! It will take weeks to get one imported.
If this were you, what would you do???? Its Friday and come Monday I have to drive this A/C-less brand new car to Florida!!!! :mad:
In stock.
Why are you paying $1,000 for this?
I would look into that.
I live in chicago and I'm about to purchase my new xb in a couple of days. I was told by the sales rep that the price of the xb is only at MRSP, $15,045...Is this true? I've checked the net and it's the price I've been getting, I was wondering if anyone in my area have been quoted a cheaper price and where?
There you can price a Scion. Walk into your dealership. Your price sounds spot-on.
Your dealership may add a documentation fee, ranging from $50 to $300.
They are allowed to do this as long as they post that publically and charge the same thing to everyone.
Don't waste your time trying to get alower price. Scion uses a "one price" system.