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Pizard
Hello everyone!!!How's the Verona doing in summer?. Mines 2500+ miles and I love its ride. I love the Vroom sound while I get on the highways. So far the Car's doing great. What do you guys add for the oil?. Do any recent buyers have changes in the user manual?. As I stated in my earlier posts, the user manual states not to add 10W30 UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!But add 5W30. If 5W30 is not available Add 10W40.
I heard from Pizzard that his user manual states that 10W30 can be added. Pizzard can you verify that this is what the user manual says...and not the PIT STOP manual. There is an conflict between both these manuals.Has any one heard from suzuki?. Please email them in large numbers so that this can be clarified. The email address is suzukiadmin@cdcTechnologies.com
Do follow up please.
Thanks and have a nice summer Guys!!!
Just to inform you all that the tech consultant to suzuki has confirmed a discrepancy in the oil recomends in the user manual and the workshop manuals. They informed me that Suzuki Auto is being contacted for clarification. The following is what they say :
" Please follow the information provided on 5-8 and 5-9 of your vehicle Owner's Manual.
The specification in the Service Manual (10W-30) (as listed below) appears to be the point of conflict and I will submit your question to Suzuki for clarification.
However in the absence of Suzuki's feedback, please follow the information in the Owner's Manual on pages 5-8 and 5-9.
Regarding your question on synthetics - please simply follow the SAE standard communicated on page 5-8 of the Owner's Manual...under the heading "what kind of engine oil to use". "
Hope this helps. I think this means that till clarification 10W30 may not be added.
Forum members may comment please.
stating to use 5W-30 is correct and should be followed. His words were "For whatever reason the engine in the Verona is different and requires the 5W-30 oil.
I hope Suzuki will publish some information on this subject as I wonder how many dealers and oil change places are using the 5W-30 as recommended
by the owners manual.
I have been talking to a Suzuki rep and the dealer about this subject for a couple months now. Hopefully this is the final answer as my dealer ask me to come in today and they will exchange the oil as they now have the 5W-30 oil in stock. (they used 10W-30 on my oil changes)
Also I might add this engine takes 6. something
qts of oil. I also think they put the standard 5qts of oil last time.
Here again, I think everyone should read the servicce requirements as stated in the owners manual and if the dealer is not holding to those standards bring it to their attention for corrective action.
Is one wants more information that I may have,
please ask.
Ken
Thanks for the input. Verona takesin 7.4 quarts (7 Liters). I had to mention this to the dealer last time who also thought that 5 quarts were Ok. He added 7 quarts and didnt charge extra. He didnt have 5W30 but added 10W40.
I wonder if it works out if you get the oil yourself and ask the dealer to do it?.
Enjoy your Verona, I do.
Ken
I attribute the fact that my cars have always peformed very reliably to the fact that I do not let other mechanics touch them. Especially when it comes to fluid changes on the engine, transmission and radiator.
the bulk (55 gal drum) oil for oil changes as that will bring them the most profit. Most of them aslo use a generic filter that is less costly. There is no way to know which oil is used, only their word that they used what one asked for. I am told at the dealer that the filter is a special filter cost more. Then, there
is the oil disposal fee, shop fee and it seems they never end. I do not know what the dealer will charge for the 5W-30 oil and filter as I was
only told it would cost more because of the 5W-30 verses the 10W-30.
Also I had a little trip this week (first time)
a little over 400 miles and I got 23.4 mpg. I only have about 2300 miles on the Verona.
The speed I was driving, just to keep up with traffic, was 75-85 mph most of the time and the other speed was about 45-60 mph. I find the Verona will run with the "Big Dawgs." I am very satisfied with the performance of the car, but would like a little better mpg.
I like the audio controls on the steering wheel,
but would like the cruise control to be quicker to respond to setting and changes. I keep my foot on the accelerator until I feel the cruise take over. Just a minor nuisance I can put up with.
Ken
I know those mountains - that's very decent mileage under the circumstances.
Sounds like you had a load in the Verona and it performed very well. Looking for some changes in mine also, maybe at the 2500 or 3000 mileage. I have about 2250 now. Mostly city miles.
Still lovin that Verona.
Ken
I hear side airbags/curtains will be available for 2005. That solves one of my biggest issues with this decent car. Can anyone confirm any other changes?
~alpha
PS I have 1200 miles on my EX and the posts are true...it gets stronger everyday. Good luck to all!
Has anyone heard of this and is it true?
We plan to stop back and drive an updated car.
Also, what if any problems have there been with your Veronas?
Thanks
Suzuki is sending reps out to see if qualifies to be repaired the way I take it. So go over the car good take your time. If they try to rush you ask them to fix everything before you sign any papers! Suzuki is taking their good old time about fixing them. Thats a shame this for this is a nice car.
My Granddaughter bought a Mazda3 and it recommends 5W-20 oil. She is also going to the Mazda dealer for oil changes as they give a discount. (under $10.00 for oil, filter and labor.) Oilgirl, please post your findings on this board. I have a little over 2300 miles now on the Verona and got 23 MPG over all on a 400 mile trip a couple weeks ago (see earlier post 06/11 or #752.)
Hoping all goes well with my Verona as I'm still loving it.
Ken
Verona01 04304R 4/30/2004
Ken
Synthetic does not cook like dino oil at high temps but just as importantly, it flows much much better at low temps than dino oil. This is especially important for OHC rigs where you have two high cams sitting in aluminum heads. Oil needs to get there ASAP.
Yes, synthetic is more expensive. However, I have a friend with a 94 tracker that has seen more abuse than you can imagine. That little motor has had 2 timing belts. Thats all. Nothing else has been done. It runs quietly. Burns no oil. None. Still has compression within 10% of OEM specs.
The mileage?
198,000.
I like the bells and whistles for the cost of the EX Verona. I get about 18+ city and 23+ highway, both w/AC,(like the auto temp control AC) but then I only have about 2400 miles on the Verona. I also think it has a very good ride and nice looks/lines. My first time to purchase a first series new auto. We have had it since Oct '03 and admitting it is the wife's car as it stays in the garage about 5 days a week. She enjoys driving it more that a Chrysler Concorde which was the family car before the Verona. I think it is great value for the money. That is my opinion.
:-D
My Verona was going through a spell where it got weaker in power but seems to be picking up again. I probably have around 2500 to 3000 miles on it. I can definitely tell a big difference in the power with the a/c on, much more sluggish than without the a/c.
Argh!