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How about the Touring??
Also, what year did Toyota make side curtain airbags STANDARD in all their Sienna models??
Thanks!
I wanted a Sienna as soon as I saw the first 2004 when Sienna became the size of the Ody and the other best selling minivans.
I am disappointed with my 2006 Sienna because overall it is NOT any better than my old 2002 T&C. Each has advantages but the Odyssey is more appealing to me after driving and riding as a passenger 17,000 miles in my 2006 Sienna.
I have not looked closely at the 2007 models. I thought the only change was the larger, more powerful 3.5L V6 replaced the 3.3L V6 of the 04-06 years while still having the same 19/26 EPA fuel economy ratings.
Best wishes on finding the one you want!
In the last two weeks we literally went back and forth between the two models on a daily (and sometimes hourly) basis and could not really decide which one to choose. Eventually, we came up with the following "plan": whichever dealer gave use more (but at least a set minimum) for our trade-in would get our business. If none met our minimum, then we would sell our car privately and come back for the 2008 models.
Since the Honda was cheaper, we started with the Honda dealers. We identified two Honda dealers that had our preferred color in stock and hinted over the phone at getting close to or above our minimum for the trade-in but of course wanted to see the car before committing to an offer.
To make a long story short, the first dealer was just plain awful. He didn't even come close to our minimum for the trade-in, which was already well below Blue Book value (this was the real deal breaker). Plus, he tried to weasel out of the quote given for the Odyssey (saying destination charge was not included, etc.), then the internet sales guy handed me off to some new salesman, who didn't know about pre-negotiated price, etc., who tried his 4 quadrant worksheet on me, then they tried to tag team me (good salesman (beginner) and tough salesman). As it became apparent that they would not come close to a fair trade-in value, I walked out. However, I lost more or less the whole afternoon and couldn't get to the other Honda dealership until this morning. As it turned out that dealership didn't have our preferred color anymore (luckily I called before leaving the house).
So off to the Toyota dealership I was. And what a pleasant experience that was compared to the Honda dealer the day earlier. This guy was really interested in earning our business and was fair all the time, stood by everything he said earlier via e-mail and phone and, most importantly, offered us our minimum for the trade-in. (Of course, we probably could have done much better selling the car ourselves. However, the convenience of not having to sell it on our own time was worth it to us. Sure the dealer will make a huge profit with this trade in but we don't mind).
So, you could say it was coincidence that we ended up with the Sienna. In any case, I think we will be very happy with it.
Well, congratulations - however you ended up with your Sienna, I think you will love it. You'll appreciate the great gas mileage too.
How about the Touring??
Also, what year did Toyota make side curtain airbags STANDARD in all their Sienna models??
The Sienna has had side curtain airbags since 2004. You can get the DVD+Nav in the XLE or Limited models - I'm not sure which package it is for either... I got so confused when we were shopping for ours that I simply stated that I wanted the Limited model with Nav and DVD and that's what I got. I'd have to look at the sticker, which my wife has "filed" away somewhere.... Anyway, it seems you can get all the stuff on the regular XLE, but if you want the sonar, laser cruise (not available on Ody??) and Xenon HID lights (not available on Ody) you have to get the Limited model. Get the Limited! We love ours - it's the Lexus of minivan-dom.
IF I knew what I now know, I would have purchased the 06 CE instead of my 06 Sienna LE and had after market tinting placed on the windows. :shades:
My aunt's Odyssey has the plusOne seat in the 2nd row (allowing 8-passenger capability). It's not somewhere you want to be on a 5 hours trip, but going across town and back isn't too terrible, especially considering you'll have more comfort when that eighth person isn't going (which, I believe, would be a pretty rare occurance for a lot of people anyway).
Enjoy your 7-pass Limited.
How old are they (the first 4)?
Ody EX = LE pkg. 3 (that's what I got)
EX-L = XLE pkg. 6
EX-L-RES = XLE pkg. 7
EX-L-RES-NAV = XLE pkg. 8
Of course Toyota just change EVERYTHING once again so how I have no idea what packages are equivalent. :sick:
I love the power sliding door feature, and it puzzles me when people say they are slow. My remote has enough range that the doors open all the way well before we walk up to the car. You must be a fast sprinter if you can beat the doors!
I have a 2007 brochure and it's riddled with mistakes. For instance it says my package 3 doesn't have a power driver's seat, yet I have it.
It's also wrong about the fuel tank capacity and the content of package 5 on the LE model.
Basically it was so confusing in 2007 that even Toyota's own brochure designers could not figure it out.
The Trip Computer is very conservative. My DTE is near 0 and it only takes 17 gallons or so.
Keep us posted on the new addition! (referring to the baby, not the van - or both)
Thegrad
Also, the computer's MPG is always at least 1 mpg less than the actual number.
I've compared 3 times, all were close, but twice it was actually reading low, and only once it read a little higher MPG than my hand calculations.
In all cases it was off by 0.5 mpg or less, so I'm just trusting the trip computer now.
Assuming you are driving in similar conditions and style, you shouldn't have such a disparity. Something was definitely wrong there.
We had a 2000, which got 17-18MPG in town and 23-26 MPG at 80MPH hwy.
Just got 25 MPG loaded going 85MPH in my aunt's non-VCM EX 2005 when moving my folks from Oklahoma to Alabama.
Impressively well. It's both fast and efficient.
Put it this way, the Sienna was not only the quickest van Consumer Reports ever tested, but also the most fuel efficient (tied with the Ody).
Can't beat that balance of power and fuel efficiency.
This was the #1 reason I chose the Sienna.
Wow, that is really crappy mileage. We've had our 2007 Odyssey EX (no VCM) for about 7 months now and we typically get right around 20 mpg in town and ~25 mpg on the freeway. On our best freeway tank we got a touch above 27, which impressed me, since we had the A/C on that whole trip.
Some very close friends of ours just purchased a used 2004 Odyssey - I hope they don't have the same dismal mpg you did!
I'm curious to find out how theirs does. I guess it's possible we just had a lemon, but when I searched the blogs back when this was a bigger concern of mine (before I bought the Sienna we now have) it seemed like there were lots of them out there with the same crappy mileage... so for your friends sake, I hope theirs does better.
During our last 1100km trip, she averaged 27mpg, and I averaged about 135km/h. I guess that's over 80miles/h?
Very happy with the mileage. I don't think there's any other minivan that can beat these numbers.