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It's beautiful... just like a girl treated by Dr. 90210.
I don't like either design. I personally prefer the Sonata to the newer Accords, the slightly older (like 2004 models) before the butt surgery looked better. I did see a newer gray Accord yesterday on some beautiful rims that looked good. However, from the concept that Honda showed, the next Accord will look very good. The Sonata's design was based on other vehicles, Audi, Accord, etc. so it will become old real quick which is a drawback.
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Hope everyone's weekend is going great!
Somehow that doesn't seem very important in safety design hierarchy.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Without the warranty I wouldn't buy a used Hyundai personally.
i've seen plenty of these bodykits in korea, so it can't be that expensive. hyundai should have this studie bodykit as an option, or something close to it. hyundai needs to go after young buyers. that would change people's perception dramatically.
Anyone else notice that there is a strong resemblence between the rear of the '06 Accord and that of the '06 Impala? There wasn't any purposeful copying by either Honda or Chevy, of course, but it shows how easy it is for two sedans to have similar styling cues.
Now it seems that the Impala, Accord and Sonata all have the same look from the back.
I agree! I think it is rediculous. A Honda should NOT look like a Hyundai. Hyundai always copies designs from other car makers, interiors, exteriors, mechanical components. I really wish Honda would sue them for the identical copy of the lights. It really annoys me.
Or maybe they are afraid of a similar lawsuit from GM, based on the '06 Civic looking a lot like the Saturn SL. Or from DC, based on Honda's copying the minivan design from them.
Yes, it is certainly ridiculous. A Honda shouldn't look like an Impala.
Studie, is like Brabus, an independent customizer, Hyundai can't list it as an option. You have to go directly to Studie for it and just like Brabus, they specialize in Mercs, BMWs, etc. and they are extremely expensive.
Hyundai with benchmarking both audi a6 and lexus 330 for the sonata i guess have sort of maximized the best of both worlds.
Those who have driven or test driven this car, would you feel it has more of a european or japanese feel to it?
Of course, he's the same guy who keeps leaving me messages saying that he finally found the color I wanted in an Accord with Navi. I was looking for a 4 cyl 5 speed but this one is a "6 speed which would be more fun than the 5 speed." Does he think I don't know that would make it a V6??
I suppose I should call him back and let him know I found my car two months ago.
No offense, but you make it sound like you have quite a bit of experience in this area. :surprise:
Yes, isn't it ridiculous? The Sonata has 4 wheels like a Fusion, 1 trunk like a Milan, 2 tail lights like a Camry, 2 headlights like an Accord, and 1 steering wheel like a Mazda6.
At this point, I think all car designs have been done before and must eventually be repeated. There's only so many permutations in the universe of car design. Believe me, no car maker wants to copy any other. There is only so much room on these little cars for aesthetic design. If you get radical with the design, you will infringe on something important... like leg room, head room, trunk capacity, engine bay room, or safety. I bet even your car looks like other cars in some respects. Bet?
The accord copied the LaCrosse/Impala tailights for it's 2006 corrections of its earlier Buick-like tailight design.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I seriously doubt that. Do they look alike? Yes. Were they copied? Not likely at all. Designs are usually "locked in" about 2 years before the cars are released to manufacturing. Designs are kept under the strictest secrecy. Just like ladies wearing the same dress to a party, coincidence's do happen.
Japanese styling with American handling and ride. No Euro-feel to me (GLS I-4); European cars I drove had much more body control and tighter steering (Audi A4 Cabriolet, VW New Beetle, etc...).
The closest "non-European" car to the European driving feel benchmark for under $25,000 IMO is my Accord. It steers and handles closest to the Audi A4 I drove; and while not quite as sweet to drive, I can fit four people in comfort (did it this weekend on a trip to the lake) and got 32 MPG to boot (no interstate, just twisty roads near Mt. Cheeha in AL, the tallest Mtn. in the state).
P.S. I haven't driven a 2007 Camry, just a 2006 LE, which drove similarly to the Sonata; so i can't judge that car's handling.
Among the cars I have driven, I would give that to the Mazda6. But you're right, the Accord leans toward a "Euro" feel.
Darn right. But the Secretary of the Treasury said it was "too rough and noisy". OK, when I buy my new pickup truck, she doesn't get any input.
But I think for overall feel i got more european feel(substance, styling, braking, more torque at lower rpms).
Mazda 6 is has as telepathic steering/handling feel as the bmw, but of course the bimmer, has double the engine tech, and everything else better but with a higher price.
~alpha
Check out the old Audi A6 tail lights also . . . now who's copying whom?
Cheers...
I look at $23.5k for a Fusion and see what I can get for roughly $500-$1000 more in an Accord EX-V6 (Check out prices paid forum, it happens often)...It felt better put together to me, but lacks the exterior style of the Fusion. The Accord offers more power with similar efficency, a tighter interior (that's my opinion, not necessarily everyones), much better resale in the long run based on history for Fords, and a better warranty.
It's been said before, but: Different Strokes for Different Folks...
Personally, I wouldn't pay for a V-6 when the I-4s out now are more powerful than the V-6s of ten years ago, and offer better economy of the I-4s of that time, too. Like I said, this is only my perspective...your opinions may (and likely will) vary, and that's ok.
Big issue for me: Mitsubishi's future... dicey at best...
I thought Mitsu also packaged the Galant much to its disadvantage. Not a single Galant offers a split folding rear seat, and you can't get a manual no matter what. I realize that this segment is perhaps 96% automatic, but you can get a manual in each of the Accord, Camry, Fusion, and Sonata, in some way or another. Also, last time I priced an '05 out, the only way to get ABS on the 4 cylinder was to check every option box, which added things like leather, auto climate, etc... that not everyone wants or needs. The sticker was then $24K +, at which point, you could actually get an LS V6 cheaper (with fewer lux features) but with ABS standard.
Finally, I don't know what the wheel covers look like now, but the original ones on the 04 4s and LS V6 were REALLY terrible.... very cheap looking, like 4/$25 kind you can buy at Sears Auto...
Why would anyone buy a Galant? Price can't be the argument. The Fu/lan and Sonata both have that covered, and are TREMENDOUSLY better vehicles.
~alpha
The interior was not as tight as the sonata nor accord, but it was decent enough like the altima i guess.
I personally don't like the way this car wants to drive. Somehow by messing around with the mazda 6 dynamics and trying to give it a ford dna touch, It felt confused. I guess it is not called fusion without a reason rite
Whereas mazda 6 really nails it in steering/handling, this car is a weaker version of that and tries to be a quieter car(which we all know, ford is very weak at compared to its japanese , euro even korean counterparts).
It is a good try for a first time car, just needs to be refined. And i guess thats where the Milan comes in. Even without driving it, the milan should have been fords fusion. That would have given the japanese mid sizes a better battle
Fusion is too raw
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You can bet that both Honda and GM regret the similarities.
Cars. We are only talking about cars here, not what the manufacturers are being arrested and not what's American or what isn't. If you want to talk about those things, look them up in News & Views.
Making ridiculous statements like this one drops your credibility to zero. I guess next you'll tell us they designed the Sonata to look better than a porsche 911.
"The participants especially liked the Audi A6, which became a key benchmark for the new Sonata. "Internally, NF is known as an affordable A6," says a Hyundai director."
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The side profile of the Sonata looks like the A6 to
*I'm not sure about the ES330 though, I haven't read an article saying that.