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...but then you'd have a car that's more fun to drive with better steering and handling, better MPG, better quality (5 Star mechanical quality rating by JD Powers instead of the 2 Stars given for the Versa), more cargo space behind the 2nd row, and more standard safety features...but then you do have a bigger backseat and you have a center armrest.
What safety feature does the FIT have over the Versa? Besides the Versa has a higher crash test rating then the FIT. Also if yuo want a go cart, then the FIT if the car for you. The Versa has a better over all ride then the FIT.
Mileage comparison with VW is apple comparing with orange. Do you know VW runs on diesel that give good mileage not run on gas. VW runs on gas is extremely poor in mpg and any car of the same size engine can beat VW.
No cruise control on Versa 1.8S, no 6 JBL speakers on Versa 1.8S, no luxury feel inside trim with the 1.8S.
The only good feature that I feel 1.8S is better than Corolla is I feel roomier at the back seats and has a better headroom in the front.
standard ABS
The Versa has a better over all ride then the FIT. floaty and unresponsive in comparison
Besides the Versa has a higher crash test rating then the FIT
Not exactly true: Fit has a 5 star rating for front driver and passenger and the Versa only has a 4 star rating, but the Versa has a better rating for rear passengers...see link:
http://www.safercar.gov/Index2.cfm
But maybe we should stick to real-world fuel economy of the Versa here, as it is the topic of discussion?
Your location when this happens will depend on the driving you did after the fill up and it won't necessarily be in a more convenient location if it comes on 15 miles later.
You are risking problems filling the tank beyond the manufacturer's recommended fill level and some of the gas will be wasted in the hose or recirculated back into the station's tanks.
in order, filled soon after idiot light went on, stopped at pump click-off. (the least I put in was 9.9 gal, the most was 11.2 gal)
30.2, 29.1 - mostly town/city, some highway
32.8, 34.7, 36.4 - mostly highway, some town/city
34.9 - about half highway, half town/city
I'm pretty happy with the numbers so far and VERY happy with the car. In all ways (including mpg), it has met or exceeded my expectations and I like it a lot more than the Focus I had.
My MPG has been "improving" over the last 3 fill-ups. I have finally achieved over 300 miles per tank. I am regularly getting 310-315. Which is a marked improvement from the 280 I was getting. I am filling up the tank to right around 12.3 gallons each time.
I was one of those that purchased the Versa under the impression of getting close to 30 in the city. As much as I would LOVE to touch the 350 miles that some of you are getting, reaching 300 is reason enough to celebrate. Hopefully, efficiency will continue to improve.
280/12.3=22.76 MPG
315/12.3= 25.6 MPG
I am averaging 27.93MPG highway. Less than the “City” estimate. Ninety Five Percent of my driving is on highway. I commute 5 days a week 105 miles a day.
I bought the Versa for the fuel economy factor mostly. Because of my daily drive and the price of fuel these days.
I sold my 97 Honda Civic, (that still gets 37MPG), so I could buy the Versa. But the mileage is disappointing.
I drive the Versa in the same manner as I drove the Civic. (moderately - 75MPH)
Almost all highway miles.
I notice that when I am in 6th gear the Tachometer reads:
65mph – 3000RPM
at 70mph - 3300RPM
at 75mph – 3500RPM
I have been checking other people’s tachometer readings at 65 mph and find that
They usually run around 2000 to 2200RPM at 65 mph.
I feel that the 6th gear ratio must be too low or there is a “chip” that needs attention ?
Versa Mileage 9-14-07 thru 11-28-07
See chart below
DATE .......... MILES........GALLONS...... MILEAGE
9-14-07..........209.8..........7.53...............27.86
9-21-07..........328.1 ........11.487............28.56
9-24-07..........130.2..........4.11..............31.6778
9-26-07......... 203.3.........7.898.............25.74
9-28-07..........231.4.........8.081.............28.63
10-1-07..........143.8.........5.617.............25.6
10-2-07..........111.8.........2.867.............38.99 ***
10-3-07..........101.8.........5.118.............19.89 ***
10-5-07..........100.9.........3.254.............31.00
10-8-07..........104.4.........5.043.............20.701
10-10-07.........149.6........5.123.............29.201
10-11-07.........108.7........3.201.............33.958 **
10-23-07.........214.8........7.214.............29.775 **
10-24-07.........101.2........5.347.............18.926 **
10-26-07..........231.9........8.485.............27.33
10-29-07..........157.9........5.538.............28.515
11-1-07............308.0.......10.468 ............29.423
11-5-07............237.3........7.683.............30.866
11-7-07............201.5........6.728.............29.949
11-9-07........... 233.7........8.771.............26.646
11-12-07.........123.8.........4.186.............29.574
11-14-07..........205.7........6.797.............30.263
11-16-07..........232.2........8.072.............28.766
11-26-07..........229.7........8.648.............26.203
11-28-07..........205.6........7.641.............26.907
totals: 4607.1 164.907 27.9375
Highhest I've gotten has just scratched 35 mpg and that was with paying careful attention on a long trip and not pushing too hard, trying to see what I could squeeze out of it.
I agree that compared with other cars, including my 2001 5-speed Altima, the top gear feels like it could be a bit higher (or as my daughter says a 7th gear wouldn't hurt )
But driving conditions and styles are certainly major factors in the mileage performance of any car.
I did not have the chance to drive a manual as loaner cars by the dealership were all automatics. I had 3 different cars, 2 with the four speed auto and 1 (loaned to me twice) with the CVT.
I never achieved less than 34 MPG for the entire week and got as much as 37 MPG on my commute to work. The commute was 50% highway and a very heavy traffic 50% city. Each way the commute is 40 miles and it takes between 1 hour and 10 minutes to 1 hour and 30 minutes. Average speeds between 27 and 35 miles per hour.
The one difference with your commute is that I never exceed 100 KPH (aprox. 62 miles per hour).
Try reducing your speed and you will see a big improvement in mileage.
I think you are right about driving conditions and style and I probably do need to slow down and I think the mileage would improve considerably. But I wanted a car that was like the 97 Civic 1.6L 5 speed manual
I dorve 75mph in it........A/C on everyday...even in the winter for the drying effect....stereo goin'.....lights on ......etc...and still got 36-37 mpg consistantly........drivin' on the same highway--gettin gas at the same gas station -- motor was a 1.6L and the versa is a 1.8L but I didn't think it would make that much difference......My wifes 08 Altima gets 32mpg..2.5L
The dealer is trying to tell me that it will get better mileage after 10,000 miles.......guess we'll see......
Thanks fer yer help
I work with a guy that has a 2007 Versa hatchback........It is like mine but he has the automatic transmission....He consistantly gets 36 mpg. he drives at 65mph but his tachometer runs around 2200RPM at 65mph. I think it's weird that an Automatic gets better mileage that a manual ...
I just wanted a car that was like the 97 Civic 1.6L 5 speed manual
I dorve 75mph in it........A/C on everyday...even in the winter for the drying effect....stereo goin'.....lights on ......etc...and still got 36-37 mpg consistantly........drivin' on the same highway--gettin gas at the same gas station -- motor was a 1.6L and the versa is a 1.8L but I didn't think it would make that much difference......My wifes 08 Altima gets 32mpg..2.5L
Dang me.....I shoulda kept that car.....278000 miles though.....stuff was gonna start happenin to it...
The Nissan dealer is trying to tell me that it will get better mileage after 10,000 miles.......guess we'll see......
Thanks fer yer help
Merry Christmas everyone
That's why the MPG in a manual Versa will be lower.
I just drove 2,140 to be with family for Christmas, adhering to manufacterers recommendations I kept it under 4,000 rpm for the first 1200 miles. Even then I maintained speeds between 65-70 as much of it was nighttime interstate, With four people, luggage and a dog I got 36 mpg, still can't believe it! South Texas to Northern Arizona on $83!!!! After driving a Dodge Ram V8 for years I am ecstatic.
Does anybody know anything about the Highlander removable roof racks? They are made by Cequent who also make Drawtite hitches, would like to know the pros & cons before ordering one for my kayak.
A 2007 Versa weighs about 2700 to 2800 pounds, due to the larger dimensions and safety equipment older cars were not mandated to have.
That is like driving your 1992 Sentra fully loaded all the time and it must cause higher fuel consumption.
I was just on a long trip over the weekend and my S with 6-speed got 34 mpg for the tank it took to get 4 adult sized folks home.
Not knowing your driving conditions, no one can make an effective comparision, but it does sound low for a car like the Versa. My commute is 6 miles each way, and I usually drive my Subaru Forester in winter. Yet, I get 22 miles per gallon doing that. Then again, it is mostly a highway setting, so if I drove in pure city streets, I bet the Subie would get middle teens at its best.
What are your driving conditions like, other than the distance?
Yes, the local commute has been so short that it never warms up, so I wrote that off to just running rich while cold. The 16 mpg tank was longer trips, 10-25 miles, so the car did warm up. And the 23 mpg freeway trip was to exchange the Versa for our Camry. Going from Orange County, CA to San Luis Obispo with the Versa got 23; the return trip in the 4-cyl 1998 Camry got 33. The Versa's AC was on in the early morning only to keep the windows defrosted. The Camry's AC was on for about 50% of the return trip because the day warmed up.
date miles gal total mi on car mpg
7/27/2007 188 6.373 8341 29.50
8/3/2007 265 9.887 8604 26.80
8/12/2007 332.4 11.537 8936 28.81
8/22/2007 287 11.402 9223 25.17
8/28/2007 266 9.171 9489 29.00
8/31/2007 131.8 5.02 9621 26.25
9/10/2007 293.7 11.403 9915 25.76
9/22/2007 304 11.964 10219 25.41
9/30/2007 291.5 9.023 10476 32.31
10/21/2007 256 9.429 10963 27.15
10/29/2007 304.8 11.397 11267 26.74
11/6/2007 286.4 11.859 11554 24.15
11/20/2007 262.1 11.34 11816 23.11
11/29/2007 201 9.259 12018 21.71
12/9/2007 271.4 10.009 12289 27.12
12/16/2007 98.1 6.41 12387 15.30
12/24/2007 266.4 11.365 12654 23.44
:lemon: :lemon: :lemon:
I have had three different Versas over a 5 week period while my other car was being serviced. I drove over 2k miles oin that time (August and September) and never got less than 32 MPG and quite a few times exceeded 36 MPG.
My commute is 40 miles each way, 50% highway and 50% stop and go. Typically it takes me 80 to 90 minutes to get to work and the average speeds are between 25 to 30 MPH.
If we assume 15% worse mileage in winter, that would still mean 27.2 to 30.6 MPG.
My 2007 Sentra 2.0. S, that is heavier and has a slightly larger engine is achieving no less than 31MPG and as much as 42 MPG (the week after Christmas with reduced traffic).
The secret? Try to flow with the traffic, don't accelerate briskly. The less you have to brake the better you are driving. All of this without aggravating other drivers, of course!
Fill up your car right before a freeway/highway ramp. Then go straight onto the freeway/highway, and drive for at least one, preferably two hours without stopping, and at a legal speed limit if that is safe to do. Set the cruise control if you have one. Then get off the freeway/highway and immediately head for a gas station. Fill your car up. Check the gas mileage.
If your MPG number is still low despite trying this, then your car may actually be having a problem for which you should engage the dealership. If your number after this test looks pretty good, then it is likely that your driving conditions, including your driving style, are what is giving you a poor MPG in other settings.
The whole point of the above is to control the driving environment in such a way that you can maximize the gas mileage. You would have a stronger case for a mechicanical cause if, despite driving under a near-ideal condition, your car still gets a poor MPG.
I have an 07 Versa HB with CVT and am at 3600 miles. My lowest mpg was 29 and my highest has been 36. My most recent tank, after mostly city driving, was 33. I was quite pleased with that one.
I do believe driving style can affect mpg (as so can terrain) but I can't see how that could make it as low as 22!.
Wrong ingredients can involve driving styles, but also other elements like traffic conditions, type of gas you use (does it contain ethanol), ambient temperature, etc.
But if you do not have such adverse ingredients, you have to suspect the car. That is why it is important to test your car's mileage in an optimum condition such as the one I described above to see whether that makes any difference.
It has given us bad gas milage from day one, so perhaps there is something the dealership can find/fix.
Now here comes the "but" I don't think anything they will find will explain why this car's little 1800 cc engine can't be giving EVERYONE who drives off in one, amazing MPG's.
I am now thinking the Versa engine is TOO small, and they made a mistake not putting in a bigger one, like the 2 ltr engine in the Sentra...to add credence to that thought, there is this comment from this board..
"And the 23 mpg freeway trip was to exchange the Versa for our Camry. Going from Orange County, CA to San Luis Obispo with the Versa got 23; the return trip in the 4-cyl 1998 Camry got 33."
I share your frustration. Same problem or real vs announced mileage (in l/100km). I went to my dealership and he told me to wait 5000kms (have a 2008 versa hatchback manual 6 speeds in Canada) and everything should be in order. Between you, me and the fence post, this is BS to highest level considering the present blog.
Just noticed something interesting this morning. On the Nissan US website, mileage has been revised to 26/31 mpg (city/hwy) http://www.nissanusa.com/versa/specifications-hatchback.html
where for the same car in Canada the mileage is 36/45 mpg http://www.nissan.ca/en/buying/configure/default.asp?modelCode=B5LG58#topOfPage
GO FIGURE!..I am going until 5000kms are reached and then it's Court time if they do not want to take the car back.
EPA has revised its gas mileage testing protocol, and as a result of what they claim is a more realistic set of testing modes, the mileage figures for virtually all cars have gone down. This is not Nissan's consipiracy or anything like that, and the company is merely showing what EPA has rated under the new testing system:
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ratings2008.shtml
And once again I have to take my car to yet another dealer for a fuel consumption test.
Nissan is telling me I am the only person complaining about the gas mileage problem.
My car has tested fine on all diagnostic tests and yet I can't seem to get more than 15 mpg city.