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The Appearance Package(AP):
This package begins with January production, meaning Feb/early March arrivals. It will include the following:
· Color-Keyed overfenders
· Color-Keyed Front and rear bumpers
· Color-keyed cladding
· Color-keyed REAR License plate garnish
· Fog Lamps
Should be available on both the V6 and V8 models.
I have also tried to find a LTD without a sunroof, to no avail, I have been quoted lead times of 3-4 months on a custom order LTD, so I am looking at the SR5 with the appearance package as an option.
1) Is the back seat in the Runner any wider or more accommodating of 3 child seats? A larger vehicle doesn't appeal to me and I do not perceive the 3rd row seats in SUVs comparable to the Runner as being very safe. And don't say mini-van.
2) Does the XREAS help reduce brake dive?
3) How much adjustment is there in the rear air suspension?
4) Is there merit to equipping the I-Force V8 with VVT-I technology?
5) What are the 3 buttons between the seater heater buttons are the center console for?
6) What are the 3 buttons on the dash to the left of the steering wheel for?
7) Whenever the wheel/tires are balanced the weights are invariably repositioned, which typically leaves marks on my beautiful alloy wheels. Can this be avoided? I've seen other cars utilize an adhesive tape?? that is positioned on the ID of the wheel itself, is this do-able?
Thanks
According to her, she thinks I will be the ONLY owner of a '03 4Runner Sport Edition V-6 4x4 with NO options added. Haha, I'm such a cheap skate! Again, thanks for the suggestion cliffy, I told her you suggested her, and she seemed happy about it.
Here was my only concern with ordering (of which she had a reply of 'you are being REALLY paranoid'): I have read about every article on edmunds about buying, and the 4-square sheet, and to keep your guard up during financing, blah blah. So I thought to myself, if the financing people knew that I did a build order when I came to pick up my truck, they would know that I couldn't walk away from the deal without loosing my down payment ($1000), they would have a mighty big bargaining chip on their side, so they could heavily inflate the APR without me walking away from the deal. Dianne told me: "Well they won't know you did a build order so don't worry about it, but that is a very interesting point!" Anyway, if they did that, I could just finance somewhere else, but yeah, that was my paranoid thought.
4 months to go!
-Jared
Get a pre-approval from your bank and see what they offer.
We have a '97 SR5 4x4, manual, v6. My wife bought it used before we were married and it does not have an owners manual or window sticker, so I don't know exactly what options it has. It does have the under the rear bumper towing hitch from the factory, (at least it looks like all the other 4Runner hitches I've seen), so I don't know if that implies it has some "towing" package or not.
Question, was a limited slip rear differential available on '97s? If so, how can I tell if I have it? If there is no LSD and we don't have the rear locker, does that "limit" the 4Runner's off road ability? Thanks!
Also, there is no "tow package" other than a hitch. They came standard with a transmission oil cooler and a 5000# tow capacity.
As for the earlier post about 3-accross child-seats in the 4-runner, it will really depend on the type of child seat you're using. The only real way of telling is to bring them into a dealership and try it. Some child-seats are much larger than others so it may not work for some while it may for others.
Also the buttons on the dash left of the steering wheel are as follows from left to right. The furthest left is a button to turn on the 115volt outlet for Limited models. The second is the center differential lock. The last two are place-holders for other accessories.
For those buttons on the center console: The far left is the DAC(downhill assist control) button. The other two are also place-holders for additional accessories.
Hope this helps.
Ken
As to the Sport... I have no idea. I heard it will only be for the SR5 but the cladding is the same.
Then we tried a Thule hitch mount. Same thing as the extension. I would have to shave about 1/8th of an inch off the hitch post to get the holes to line up correctly. The two people that were helping me couldn't believe the tire was so close and the hitch was so short.
If I want a hitch mount rack it would seem my only options would be to buy the Yakima and shave off about an inch, buy the Yakima with the extension and shave off 1/8th of an inch off the extension (and have the rack out way far), or buy the Thule and shave the 1/8th of an inch off. Part of my dillema is that I really prefer the Yakima racks.
Any ideas? Why did Toyota mess with the tow hitch so much that NONE of the hitch mount racks on the market fit it??? Should I consider a new hitch (is that even possible)?
Chris
I will double check again tomorrow morning, but I have a two year old Yakima ROC-4 and I think it fits.
I tried the SuperRoc today. It has the same hitch as the ROC-4 (I believe). The incredibly short hitch along with the spare tire makes the fit not even close...
Do you have the factory hitch on your 2003? Is there a difference between the hitch on the V6/V8 or SR5/Sport/Limited??? Hmmm....
As you have discovered, not all hitch inserts are created equal - the length of the insert and placement of the holes of any given insert is entirely dependant upon the manufacturer of the insert.
For all practical purposes, however, insert tubing material forward of the point the insert exits the receiver is unnecessary and could be cut off if it conflicts with something such as the tire you mentioned.
I would suggest you take the insert to a local metal shop and ask that they cut off the offending material plus a little extra so that the insert has no chance of conflicting with the spare tire (keeping in mind that the tire's current placement may change somewhat if it is dropped and remounted). This is a simple fix that should cost no more than a couple of bucks and will allow you to utilize your preferred rack.
As an alternative, you could always deflate the spare tire or remove it entirely since we all know spare tires are unnecessary, especially on a Toyota...;)
I took my Gary Fisher Paragon out for a spin today and the Yakima ROC-4 fits just fine on my factory 2003 4runner hitch. What kind of problems are you having? Is it hitting the spare tire or does it not go into the hitch at all.
BTW..I measure the distance from the placement of the pin hole to the end of the ROC-4 and it is less than 1 inch.
SV
Bob
Ken
Thanks.
BTW, is that less than 1 inch from the edge of the pin hole or the middle of the pin hole?
Thanks!
It is less than 1 inch from the edge of the pin hole to the end of the ROC 4 carrier. I am not sure how much space is left between the carrier and the spare, but I can put my fingers in between the two. Also, I don't know if this makes any difference, but my ROC 4 is about 2 years old.
SV
I actually have the SR5 with 16inch wheels and Dunlop Grandtrek at20 tires.
SV
You raised an interesting question though. So which tire has the bigger diameter? The 17inch or the 16inch?
SV
Anyone have the inside track on why Thule doesn't yet have feet that fit on the factory rack yet? They have said the next couple of weeks for a while. Are they doing anything special for the 4runner like custom feet, etc?
J
Yakima has feet (their standard) but nothing yet from Thule.
You hit the nail on the head (you just had the names reversed). Sounds like Sovang has the SR5 w/ the 16 inch wheels and I have the Limited with the 17 inch wheels. Doh!
Metal shop here I come...
SV
My off-road friends prefer the smaller wheels to allow more room for airing-down on sand and other interesting surfaces.
There is little that can be done to improve the clearance on the factory receiver hitch.
I see where the Toyota indicates on the Lexus GX470 that the factory hitch will be discontinued once they have a proper dealer option hitch available. The dealer kit installs under the bumper.
It took a month of phone calls and emails, but I am happy to report that this morning, 355 Toyota in Rockville MD installed a six disk CD-changer in my 4Runner and all is well.
The CD-changer takes up about half of the basket space in the center console. It is completely integrated into the NAV system (the single in-dash CD player still works, too) and is also integrated into the steering wheel controls. You can change both disks and tracks from the steering wheel.
NOW I'm happy. <g> Thank you to 355 Toyota for standing behind their promises and making things right. The service department was great and even through in a complimentary carwash.
Stay safe ...
The only thing I can think of is that perhaps the old ROC-4 were designed differently then the new ones.
Good luck.
BTW--How much are you guys paying for your 03 4unner insurance? I am paying nearly $800 per six months---seems steep to me (colorado).
SV
Thats great. When I first started reading the thread, your problem was the first one I saw, and I really felt bad for you. I'm glad everything worked out. Did it end up having to come out of the car salesman's pocket??
I had the service dept mystified with this and they checked with Toyota and got feedback that the bulbs ran too hot for the system? I now own a 2002 Limited w/ the factory set-up and I am not even going to go there again:(
If it were not 20 degrees outside right now, I'd go measure them.
Wrong year to buy a ski pass:(
Does anyone know the speaker sizes in the stock '03 configuration? (non-JBL)
I'm sure someone with a tech manual on the vehicle can find out, and I would much appreciate it.
Thanks,
Jared
Colorado insurance rates are horrendous due to the No-Fault thing. The legislature has been talking about doing something about it....hopefully sooner than later.
There are several web sites that let you key in various combinations of wheels/tires and shows the characteristics. Here's one:
http://www.rx7turboturbo.com/robrobinette/tire_diameter.htm