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Lawyer said that because of Law company's "reputation" toyota first of all would not want to fight the case and even if they do then 99% chances are that this lawyer would win this case.
So if Toyota buysback my shimmying junk(4 runner)then i would pay 1/3rd of (settlement money-market value of vehicle).But in 99% cases manufacturer ends up paying the legal fee as well. So that is where i stand now. I think i am going to hire Kahnandassociates and file a case against Toyota.
I thought that would appropriately represent my car. I was just checking in to see if anyone had any luck on this topic as far as a resolution. I am still driving my brand spanking new 2006 Toyota 4Runner SR5 V8 hunk-of-junk! YAY for me! haha My dealer has no idea what to do for me nor do they really care I'm sure. The last thing they came up with is maybe it vibrates when your tires are cold.....Don't you think I would have figured that out by now!? They are so helpful. I'm so bummed to be out $32k for a sucky car.
Mike
I mean, if you really wanted a super-smooth drive, why would you buy a 4x4 truck?
I don't believe you ever mentioned bent rims, tires out of balance or warped rotors in any of your previous 22 postings on your issue so I'm having a hard time understanding why you're dumping on robm2 for asking a simple question. He likely has not followed your saga from beginning to end and most of our members are not mindreaders!
His question was simply "Is it possible you're over-reacting to a little vibration?" which was a great opportunity for you to provide newcomers to the discussion with the full details of your plight. There is no need to overreact to an innocent question.
tidester, host
Actually, I did before I posted.
I also take exception with your comments regarding the fact that I did not ever specifically mention warped rotors, bent rims, etc.
It's still unclear to me why you mentioned them in your last message. No matter.
He clearly stated "What's wrong with a little vibration?"
Yes, he did, but only after he asked "Is it possible you're over-reacting to a little vibration?". If the premise is "it's only a little vibration" then the follow-up question is equally innocuous.
In any case, you may avail yourself of the opportunity to spell out in greater detail just what the problem is for the benefit of those who have only recently joined the discussion.
tidester, host
I know you have the powers to start a new link dedicated strictly to a certain topic...say "'06 4Runner Vibrations."
This thread is getting a little heated as you can see. I believe that these "vibrations" are real to some and no matter what, we won't be able to convince that what they are feeling doesn't exsist...nor should we.
Not to take away from the importance of this topic, but some of us would like to see it's own thread and get on with other issues at hand.
Thanks,
Bob
It looks like Steve got to it first!
tidester, host
The way things are going, you'll soon have hundreds of different threads... :surprise: :surprise:
Thanks guys!
Bob
I did get hit from behind while I was stopped at a light with a replacement of the back end and all body parts.
I've taken it to multiple places including the dealer and no resolve. The shake occurs at 65 - 70 MPH. I have had an alignment done, rear shocks replaced, tire rotate and balancing, 4 replacement tires, and the front brakes replaced.
All mechanics have said that the front suspension parts are fine.
I have read that maybe there is a special balancing for the factory wheels for some Toyotas. the lug centric.
Is this one of them?
Also, I have read the thread about the problem being characteristic on 06 model but this is a 00.
I have a 2WD 4 cylinder. I had Cooper Tires now I have winterforce tires. Both have the same problem. A smooth ride til i hit 65 MPH.
Could it be a drive shaft?
I am feeling it in the steering wheel and the gas pedal. It's not intense but it's bumpy and unpleasant. My passengers also feel it though not as strong.
any one with any insight, please advise.
thank you.
I've got 53,000 miles on my 03 Limited 4WD. I've had no sunroof problems, no vibrations or engine problems.
As for the mileage you are getting, that's about what you can expect. My overall mileage is 17-18. If I'm very gentle on acceleration, keep my highway speed to 65 mph, and use cruise control, I can get about 19 mph on the highway.
I don't think any performance parts will improve your mileage.
tidester, host
Msg # #2076 Re: Clunking when accelerating and stopping
*I have met the my Regional Customer Service Representative on this issue and on the drive train vibration and moaning sound.
The rep told me Toyota considers these issues "normal operation characteristics" of the 4Runner. The rep also indicated that new company 4Runner they were driving had the same issues.
*Read "Truck Trend" January/February 2007,pp 88 re:"Good Vibrations Gone".
Dude i am not buying Toyota in rest of my life. :sick:
But the wheels on a 4Runner have to be balanced using a lug centric balancing machine. One of the manufacturers is HUNTER. You can search for their website.
Also, when brakes are done the "runout" is something like .005. This is very exact. If the rotors are turned and not kept to this spec you will get vibration as well upon braking.
For sturdy vehicles they are rather "fussy" in some regards!
:lemon: :lemon:
I can't comment on the '07 model and not to make light of this problem that some are having....but I have an '06 4Runner 4WD Sport and no vibration whatsoever.
I've got almost 10k miles, have traveled across the country in it and I think it's a great truck!
My suggestion is to drive the truck you are interested in. Get it out on the highway and see how it feels. If the dealer won't agree to this, then they don't want to sell their trucks.
Good luck.
I have a 2007 4 runner with 4000 miles, prurchaed new. The right side passenger body panel above the tire vibrates/shakes at highway speeds. I took the vehicle in to the dealer twice to have it checked out. The dealer says there is no problem with the vehicle and that that vibrations are normal. I did not buy the dealer explanation.
Any thoughts or solutions would be welcome.
Allan
I do a lot of around town driving, rarely getting up to 65+. Well today, I got out on the freeway and sure enough, the steering wheel and even the seats were shaking. I tried another road on the way back - same thing.
The dealership supposedly has the Hunter machine, but I don't know any specifics about how they used it, the readings they got, etc....
While surfing for some more information I came across the Centramatic system. At $199 for all 4 wheels it seems expensive, but first thoughts are maybe it will pay for itself with fewer, if any, balancing jobs needed after installation...especially if the Hunter balance is $80 or so.
Has anybody ever used this? Opinions, thoughts?
http://www.centramatic.com/index.html
It is best to stay away from Toyota. Try Nissan instead or even GMC.
I agree with you that "All 4Runners do not vibrate". My 2006 SR5 4WD does not vibrate at any legal speed, at least not yet with about 12,000 miles on it. I've had a number of trucks, and had a new Ford Explorer and a new Olds Bravada before the 4Runner. I'm happier with the 4Runner than I've been with any other truck or SUV.
I understand disappointment when a new vehicle has problems that aren't quickly fixed. My Bravada was in the shop almost monthly with serious problems until it had about 60k miles on it. The Olds dealership gave up on it just before they went out of business. Finally, a team of technicians at a Chevy dealer fixed the problems and from that point to around 110k, it drove like it should have when it was new. My problems didn't mean that all Bravadas were/are lemons. Neither do the problems with a few 4Runners, no matter how frustrating they are to the individual owners.
IMHO, bad dealer service usually is a greater problem than defects in a whole production series of a particular vehicle. I hope those of you with problems get resolutions and satisfaction. But all 4Runners are not problem vehicles.
Yes, there is a defect in design and Toyota has a Technical Service Bulletin (ST001R-05) concerning steering wheel vibrations. The problem has several causes/solutions. First, the P265/65R17 110S Dunlop AT20 original equipment tires produced in Japan before the production week 0905 (9th week of 2005) may experience flat spots - can be checked by the dealer. Second, involves replacing the steering control valve. The third solution involves replacing the steering wheel with an increased mass steering wheel.
So, yes there is a problem and Toyota appears to admit this, but only if your car is in warranty will they fix this problem.
100% correct!