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This is the first (and last) time I buy American. The dealership we took delivery from and the body shop have had miserable service. It's confirmed everything I thought about American dealerships & cars.
I hate American cars, dealerships and service even more than I used to. :lemon: :lemon:
Jeep tells my dealer its normal operating system my dealer says no it is not normal. What it does is acts like it is either trying to cut out or its trying to shift gears resulting in it cutting out. Very frustating when Chrysler won't own up to problem when three guys in the service department all tell Chrysler the same thing. Plus this jeep barely gets 21 mpg. Needless to say I want a car that is new and has no problems like what I was suppose to get when I purchased this jeep. :lemon:
It's raining hard here in LA and I went to the Jeep Dealership to look at a reserved Brand New 05 Wrangler X - did I say Brand Spanking New.I opened the doors to the car and there were huge puddles of water both sides - in the footwells (well being an appropriate name).Not a great start.Needless to say I didn't purchase the car - is this a common problem with Wranglers - half metal doors - can it be rectified ???!?!?!
My 2004 Sport never leaked a drop. Unfortunately, it was totalled in an accident. So I got a 2005 Sport. It leaked horribly from the time I got it, as did other Wranglers I checked on several different new car lots. (Wanted to see if my Sport leaking was an isolated problem. Found out it was not.) Chrysler does not know how to fix the problem -- nor do they admit there even is a problem; says they are designed to leak. Some dealerships claim they can fix the problem, but they don't.
My attorney got the dealership where I bought the 2005 Sport to buy the car back from me. They never fixed the leak. And now the Sport is for sale on their used car lot.
My advice is if you are considering buying a Wrangler, take it for a test drive -- right through a hand car wash. if it doesn't leak, then buy it!
http://www.jeepaholics.com/support/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=37714&SearchTerms=leak,rai- n
I messed with this buy dumping buckets of water into the vent behind the hood and was able to sort of duplicate the problem. I left the AC on and shut off the Jeep and that seemed to be the problem. But I took it back anyway, now the dealer's body shop has had it a total of 15 days. Maybe it's fixed.
Have someone sit in the Jeep and hit it with a hose, as if you were driving into the rain. Soak it really well. If the water starts pouring in through the rubber gaskets in the door frames (above your left shoulder if you are in the passenger's seat; right shoulder if you are in the passenger's seat) that's where a lot of the Wrangler's are leaking, based on my research.
If they cannot fix it, consider retaining an attorney to talk to the dealership about buying it back from you. (They would not listen to me as a consumer, but their ears perked right up when the attorney called them.)
As a first step, I would try going back to the dealership where you purchased your Jeep to ask them about getting out of that Wrangler and into one that doesn't leak. See what their response is...
GASKET. THE PRESSURE IS BEING BLOWN INTO THE COOLING SYSTEM. I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM WITH NUMEROUS RADIATORS.
THE DEALER REPLACED 5 BEFORE FINALLY CALLING CHRYSLER TECH.
ASSISTANCE. THERE WAS A CASTING PROBLEM WITH THE 4.7L HEADS
THAT CAUSE THE GASKET TO WEAR.
DO THE DISC BRAKE PADS HAVE WEAR INDICATORS (SOUND)?
Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
JEEP / LIBERTY 2002-2006
JEEP / LIBERTY 4X4 2006
Manufacturer : DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION
Component :
SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT
Date Investigation Opened : May 31, 2006
Date Investigation Closed : Open
Summary:
ON JANUARY 6, 2006, THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION (ODI) OPENED A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION TO INVESTIGATE ALLEGED FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINT SEPARATION WHILE DRIVING IN CERTAIN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2004 JEEP LIBERTY VEHICLES. ODI SENT A LETTER TO THE MANUFACTURER ON FEBRUARY 7, 2006, REQUESTING INFORMATION ABOUT THESE AND OTHER JEEP LIBERTY VEHICLES. BASED ON THE INFORMATION REVIEWED IN PE06-004, THE RANGE OF SUBJECT VEHICLES UNDER INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN EXPANDED TO INCLUDE ALL MY 2002-06 JEEP LIBERTY VEHICLES THAT USE THE SAME OR SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINT. ODI IS AWARE OF 495 NON-DUPLICATIVE COMPLAINTS THAT ALLEGE INVOLUNTARY FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINT SEPARATION IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES. ODI IS ALSO AWARE OF ONE NON-INJURY CRASH AND THREE ALLEGED INJURY INCIDENTS (TWO CRASH INCIDENTS AND ONE NON-CRASH INCIDENT) RELATED TO THE ALLEGED DEFECT RESULTING IN MINOR INJURIES. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE COMPLAINT COUNTS REPORTED ABOVE ONLY INCLUDE MY 2002-03 LIBERTY VEHICLES IF IT WAS DETERMINED THE ALLEGED BALL JOINT SEPARATION OCCURRED AFTER PRIOR RECALL REPAIRS WERE PERFORMED (SEE BELOW) OR IF THE VEHICLE WAS NOT SUBJECT TO THE PRIOR RECALL BECAUSE ITS VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER (VIN) FELL OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF AFFECTED VEHICLES IDENTIFIED BY THE MANUFACTURER. THE MANUFACTURER CONDUCTED A PRIOR SAFETY RECALL (03V-460) TO ADDRESS THE SUBJECT ISSUE IN CERTAIN MY 2002-03 JEEP LIBERTY VEHICLES. ACCORDING TO DAIMLERCHRYSLER’S DEFECT INFORMATION REPORT TO THE AGENCY (IN ACCORDANCE WITH 49 CFR PART 573) DATED NOVEMBER 4, 2003, “THE CONSTANT TENSION LOWER CONTROL ARM BALL JOINTS MAY EXPERIENCE A LOSS OF LUBRICATION WHICH CAN LEAD TO CORROSION, ACCELERATED WEAR AND POSSIBLY SEPARATION FROM THE STEERING KNUCKLE. A CONSTANT TENSION BALL JOINT WHICH HAS SEPARATED FROM THE KNUCKLE MAY RESULT IN LOSS OF VEHICLE CONTROL WITH MINIMAL ADVANCED WARNING.” THE MANUFACTURER HAS MADE NUMEROUS CHANGES IN THE DESIGN, MATERIAL COMPOSITION, MANUFACTURE, QUALITY CONTROL, SUPPLY, AND INSTALLATION OF THE SUBJECT BALL JOINTS SINCE THE PRIOR SAFETY RECALL WAS INITIATED IN AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE PERFORMANCE WITH RESPECT TO SEALING, LUBRICATION, AND JOINT RETENTION CAPABILITY. THE MANUFACTURER'S INVESTIGATION INTO ALLEGED FRONT SUSPENSION LOWER BALL JOINT SEPARATION IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES IS ONGOING. ACCORDINGLY, THIS INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS TO FURTHER STUDY THE FREQUENCY AND SCOPE OF THE ALLEGED DEFECT AND THE ADEQUACY OF THE REMEDY PROVIDED BY THE PRIOR SAFETY RECALL.
www.nhtsa.dot.gov
Make: JEEP
Model: LAREDO
Type: MULTIPURPOSE PASSENGER VEHICLE
Year: 1997
Complaint Number: 10160614
Summary:
MY 1997 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE LAREDO HAS HAD A CRACKED EXAUST MANIFOLD FOR SOME TIME NOW. THE DEALERSHIP KNOWS THE PRICE FOR ONE OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD WITHOUT LOOKING IT UP. DUST OR WATER CAN GET IN THERE AND MAKE ENGINE FAILURE, IT CAN ALSO CAUSE THE ENGINE TO GET TO HOT AND CAUSE A FIRE. CARBONMONOXIDE LEAKS INTO THE CABIN WHEN THE WINDOWS ARE UP AND THE HEATER IS ON.
I think whomever sold Jeep the seats did not thouroughly test the materials.
Whomever wants to sign an online petition and that way we can either get Jeep to replace the seats, or refund us a percentage of the pourchase price.
jojo1938
If you haven't done so already, fill out a report at the NHTSA (www.nhtsa.dot.gov).
Thank you for your suggestion. I appreciate it very much. Thanks, jojo1938
Thanks Ed.
JoJo
In these stalling cases, does the Check Engine Light ever come on?
I had this problem last summer, but it was because I was driving through deep mud and ruined the TPS. Same symptoms though and may be a similar cause of problems you folks are experiencing.
-Paul
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Good Luck!
steve_, "Online Repair Manuals" #12, 14 Feb 2012 7:37 am
Why doesn't Jeep provide parts to fix safety recalls? Back in October, we received a notice from Jeep to have our 2012 Wrangler fixed due to a recall on the power steering line. I called the dealer and asked if I could bring it in. They said I needed to be put on a waiting list, and they only receive "one part a week" from Chrysler. Now it is almost March and they haven't called me in. This seems nuts, yes?
I think I'd go over the dealer's head and open a case with Jeep and see what happens with that. Sounds like an accident waiting to happen
Jeep was notifying people of a parts wait. But that was back in July 2013.
2012-'13 Jeep Wrangler Recalled for Possible Loss of Transmission Fluid
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