Edmunds dealer partner, Bayway Leasing, is now offering transparent lease deals via these forums. Click here to see the latest vehicles!
Options
Popular New Cars
Popular Used Sedans
Popular Used SUVs
Popular Used Pickup Trucks
Popular Used Hatchbacks
Popular Used Minivans
Popular Used Coupes
Popular Used Wagons
Comments
2001 Saab 9-5 SE Wagon 3yrs 10k miles/yr
$3k down (2k cap reduction, 1k sec, acq & 1st)
payment = $329 month
This is for a new wagon (zero miles) not a dealer demo, CPO or loaner car. Is this a good deal or typical for this car.
How reliable have the 9-5's been (with the V6). Is it a good winter/snow car. I would appreciate any feedback about the car.
Thanks,
Chris
I have a 2000 wagon with the 2.3lpt engine. I love it and it has been reliable. I believe there were some teething problems with the 1999 year.
Ours was not so good in the snow with the original tires. We have the Saab snow tire package and the car is very good now. I was very impressed with the difference the snow tires made.
I suggest you review all the messages in this section to learn about the issues and joys of 9-5 wagon ownership.
I get 20-30 mpg. That is something you never get in a Jeep.
Drive Safe,
Joe
bmwjoe, just curious, do you have a BMW. The Saab is going to be my wife's car. I have on order a 2002 BMW 530ia.
Chris
Welcome to the ranks of 9-5 wagon owners. Black/Gray sounds very sweet. My wife loves her wagon. When I am good she lets me drive it.
I have 2 BMWs, one with two wheels and one with three. You can check them out at My Toys
Drive Safe,
Joe
I have a question for you Saab diehards. What is that animal on the SAAB symbol/sign? Is that a lion or a seahorse?? Sounds like a dumb question but I thought one of you would enlighten me. Thanx
I do know, that if the front one does fall off Saab will replace it. Evidently, this happens on a rare basis.
Drive Safe,
Joe
she was driving on a four lane road at 50 to 55 mph. The good news is that my wife was unhurt. The car's windshield was not even broken; the engine still runs, the front doors still open. However, the repairs and depreciation are going to run about $26,000 and the car is going to be totaled. Bad news, the highly touted On-Star system did not work as advertised since both airbags exploded. As impressed as we were by the Saab, we are going to replace it with a 2002 Volvo Cross Country which drives even better than the Saab. Both are great vehicles and very safe.
Are you saying that the insurance company totalled the car and offered you $26K for it? If not, what do you mean by "repairs and depreciation are going to run about $26,000"?
Adam
My 3-year lease is about to end and I am planning to simply go with the 9-5 Aero Wagon.
Although I have yet to test drive it, I drove a 94 Aero years ago and was very impressed (I had at the time a '92 9000 SPG).
Did any of you get the chance yet to upgrade from a 99-00 model to a '02?
1. Does this seem like a good price? It does to me--I've been looking for a used 9-5 wagon for a while, not only are they hard to find, but rarely are they available with low mileage at this price.
2. Reliability? My wife drives a 2000 9-3 and it's been trouble free other.
My wife had a bad wreck in the 9-3, both bags deployed and she was unscathed--now we are Saab loyalists for life. Thanks for the input.
Revka
Host
Hatchbacks / Station Wagons / Women's Auto Center Boards
The 99's did have some problems with the ECU. Take a quick look at saabnet.com for other reliability issues to be concerned with.
L
for performance parts go to www.abbottracing.com, or www.sasab.com, or www.nordictuning (i think).com these sites offer upgraded ECU chips, suspension, and other components.
FYI - if you're really into saabs - go to www.saabnet.com - this is the most active site on the net for saab enthusiasts. they have a great forum - mind you the forums are geared for people to solve problems with their cars so don't be surprised if you see lots of posts re. problems - not indicative of the build quality/relaibilty/durability of saabs...
good luck
The 540 will give you better performance - acceleration and handling feel, but realistically for everyday driving and such, the Aero is just as good. If you push the both cars to the limit, the BMW will outperform. My neighbor has a 540 sedan - he drives it 10 miles round trip to work in city driving never exceeding 40mph - seems like a waste of power and performance. I've had my base 95 wagon at 100mph+ - felt solid and under control. I'm sure the aero will feel just as good or better at 120mph. But at the end of the day, just how hard and fast will you drive and how often?
Versatility and utility is another factor, the 540 wagon is SMALL compared to the Saab - especially cargo area. Finally, the FWD/RWD thing. Up here in CT, my neighbors 540 is snow is horrendous. Despite the fact that it has TCS - in 6-8" of snow - or if you need to go up an incline or hill - forget it - FWD is better.
Cost is the final factor - new 540 wagon - $50K+, new Aero - $39K. You can take some of that difference to alter the engine chip and software to boost HP to close to 300 if you want.
Saabs are as reliable as all of the other european cars. Since you own a BMW you won't be surprised by service costs,etc - but Saab pays for first 3 years of service.
Basically I don't think there are other performance wagons out there - not sure if they still make the Audi S6, the Volvos handle and perform like dogs (but they are versatile wagons though).
At the end of the day you need to decide what factors are most important to you. Saabs are great cars, fun to drive, practical, and different.
Good luck.
BTW,I have a 2001 sedan, great car to drive.
2002 9-5 Arc with silver metallic paint, List at $41,000
36 month lease
12k/year
Turn in my leased 1999 9-3 SE which is a $3,000 loss based on buy out vs. market value
Dealer will take care of my remaining 9-3 SE payments, amounting to about $3,250
$1,495 down
$498/month taxes included.
Any advice on whether this is a good deal?
Thanks in advance
MVC Jones
To kibkirb- To respond to your Post #630 "TMVs for the 9-5 wagons -- they're about $2k below the invoice for all models. Does this make sense to others?
Edmunds' TMV is most likely taking into consideration the current $2500 Incentive that Saab is currently offering to their dealers. Good luck.
Revka
Host
Hatchbacks & Station Wagons Boards
Drive Safe,
Joe
Her car is Silver and mine is black. At the moment I am a little disappointed with the fact that when they buffed out my car they covered it with scratches. They said I can bring the car back in and they would buff out the scratches.
I originally felt that the car was over priced, but with the leftover discounts the car seems like a bargain. I was considering a VW Passat.
I was wondering if anyone knew the name of the company that makes the engine and transmission? The engine is made in the UK and the transmission in Japan.
The 9-5 was mediocre in the snow. The wide, performance oriented tires are to blame. I put on a set of the factory snows and it does much better in the snow. The snow flake wheels were a bonus. Worth the money.
Drive Safe,
Joe
Revka
Host
Hatchbacks & Station Wagons Boards
while going through d.c. a few days ago my cooling fans went out in heavy traffic and the engine overheated.
went to a dealer and they found a blown fuse....
but,there has to be a reason for the fuse to blow.
anyone has any background ?
the transmission is sourced from Aisin-Warner (sp?). same firm that makes the Lexus automatics.
I have the 2.3LPT 4 cylinder and it responds well. If you put it in sport mode, it responds very well. Saab turbos are the best in the industry, they've been doing turbos since 1977, they also have virtually eliminated turbo lag, plus the TORQUE curve on their turbos are great for every day driving (that is, maximum torque is achieved at low rpm, as opposed to most other cars where maximum torque is achieved near redline)
We are looking to replace my wife's 93 Accord and are considering adding a second wagon to our stable (I drive a 96 Passat TDI wagon). Our local Saab dealership has a 2001 SE wagon on the lot that they recently got in. The specs:
Mileage: 37,500
Color: Silver exterior/graphite leather w/ heated seats
Asking price: $26,700
The salesperson I've been talking to has told me the car has gone through and passed the Saab Certified inspection, qualifying it for the 100K mile warranty. They replaced the battery, put new Continental Contact tires on, fixed a bad contact on the sunroof and replaced both cupholders. From what I can tell, everything else looks like new (finish, leather, etc.).
1. At least to me, this seems like a really good deal, especially since it is now a Saab Certified car. What things/questions should I be looking for/asking? This dealer did not sell it originally but I feel that the salesperson could find out the reason why the previous owner traded it.
2. Any opinions about the durability/longevity of the V6? I have heard that this engine was actually designed by GM. Is this correct?
3. What kind of mileage do those of you with the V6/auto combination get on the highway? My wife and I both drive 450 miles/week to work.
Any other info/help would be most welcome.
Thanks!
greg
Regards,
Jon W.
As in my original post, I agree with you and would opt for the 4, it's a proven engine.
Side window deflectors...
Darandall,
The lease numbers you describer are indeed intriguing, however at least in my situation leasing is out of the question (26K mi/year)...
my $0.02
Greg