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As for driving a M5 everyday. I would not recommend it if you live in a place like New York City or any crowded area. If you have drive over hilly country roads, get the M5. If you are 25-34 and live in the city, maybe the M5 can work also.
Just my opinion.
Does anyone else here get Auto, Motor und Sport? They had a comparo between the 760Li and the S600. The S600 won. BMW thought they were going to crush the 2001-2002 S600 (362hp) with their new 443hp 760Li, but Mercedes said...NOPE.
So lets see, the victories:
M5 - 1 (Automobile/CAR same writer and article)
RS6 -1 (Car and Driver)
E55 - 0
S-Type R - 0
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For me, the C32 is too small, the S500 a tad too big. I should have bought that 2001 E55 3 years ago instead of the S.
Still waiting for a test drive on the '04 E55.
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For sheer comfort, the motorized Lazy Boy Lexus LS430 is probably the most luxurious moving bedroom around.
But of course, boring to drive hard.
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Did they have the 2004 E55 at the show? Is the interiors better than the stock E500 ?
The S62 was probably a guess on Automobile's part about what the next level of displacement would be on the AMG V12 S-Class. From 2001-2002 Mercedes sold a S63 in Europe, it was a normally aspirated 6.3L V12 with 444hp. I'm sure they didn't know that the next AMG V12 would be called the "65", which is actually a 6.0L V12. I would bet on a S65 and even a SL65, but I doubt if they'll come here. In browsing through one of my many favorite MB sites, I've found out that the U.S market has missed some really off-the-chart AMG cars over the last few years. There was a SL73 in Europe. A true monster. Mercedes-AMG also has a V10 on the drawing board, for quite some time actually. Oh, and Mercedes is developing a 7 speed gearbox for introduction at Frankfurt this Sept. This is shaping up to be a tech/hp war unlike any ever seen before.
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http://www.motortrend.com/features/news/112_news030422_bmw/
I think BMW is going in the tank. I don't mean the company, I mean the cars. While Benzs seem to be looking better with every redesign (except for the new CLK, the old one looks better) BMW take two steps back.
BTW, Auto, Motor und Sport just picked the E55 over the RS6 in a comparo tonight. The M5 was not present.
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Heh...I guess I agree with you again. I don't think BMW will let up on performance, but many people will be turned away by the looks of the car.
I agree with chavis10 too. Doesn't the back resemble a Subaru WRX?
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-The New 5-Series:
http://a298.g.akamai.net/7/298/5382/042103170607/www.imakenews.co- - - - - m/autospies/word_images/3653937_image002.jpg
The Front - headlights
http://a298.g.akamai.net/7/298/5382/042103170609/www.imakenews.co- - - - - m/autospies/word_images/6250288_image002.jpg
The Rear - taillights
-The "INSPIRATION":
http://www.carsalez.co.uk/v-pics/c488.jpg
taillights
http://www.hoot-uk.com/content/regulars/view_from_a_peer/images/s- - - - - trathcarron_11072002_2.jpg
taillights
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - VEHICLE/2002/Lexus/100003424/006445-E.jpg
headlights
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/- VEHICLE/2002/Lexus/100003424/006491-E.jpg
taillights
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/- VEHICLE/2002/Lexus/100003424/006632-E.jpg
taillights
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/- VEHICLE/2002/Lexus/100003424/006606-E.jpg
headlights
Borrowing from Peugeot and Lexus didn't quite seem to work out very well, but perhaps the car will look better in person. Though not totally the same elements of style, the lights do seem similar in general proportion and shape bewteen these cars. I think it also looks way too tall and narrow:
http://www.imakenews.com/autospies/word_images/3218949_image002.j- - - - - pg
http://www.imakenews.com/autospies/word_images/3218949_image008.j- - - - - pg
I thought those rear shots were of the X3 when I first saw them (the first one), but its a 530d. What's with the Pontiac Grand Am grille? Is the huge antenna on roof supposed to go along with the "land shark" theme of the Z4? Some people see the "eyebrows" on this car and the 7 as looking like eyebrows, but am I the only one who sees them as "lazy-headlight"? The pillars seem less sleeked back as well.
Maybe it'll grow on us and look really nice once we get used to it.
Can't get that magazine at my local B&N.
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I always wonder why people like to wrap a car around their bodies; do they feel safer this way?
I don't like the look of the CLK either. It looks to soft to me.
2002 7-Series
2003 CLK
2004 5-Series
I never, ever thought this would happen, but Mercedes has actually made a car whose looks I'm not crazy about, the CLK! BMW better cool it with this crap they're doing. Thank god the 3-series doesn't go under the knife until 2005.
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So, for those of you locked on the E55, buy the issue. Nice photos; as usual.
chavis10,
The CLE is a 4-door coupe based on the E-Class. It will be shown in concept form at Frankfurt this fall. It's supposed to slot in between the E and S-Classes. It's rumored to be a stunning looking car.
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I was confused about the rear and side blinds offered in both the factory and accessories sections; at different prices too. What! no wood steering wheel option ?
Lastly, does the bi-color seats work with this car? Especially for a middle aged man with kid?
Personally, some might remember I used to post to this forum as a Jag XKR owner. I just noticed the car was projecting the wrong image given the tech downturn, and felt uncomfortable with it. Trading down has been a big trend around me... Think about such issues when you fork down the money for these cars. Now my ostentatiousness is reduced to weekends, as I got myself an early 90s Rolls Corniche for show, and drive a $40k car or the motorccycle on an everyday basis to tone down the image. I do miss the XJR regularly, though. I do absolutely not like the new Jag XJR - the extra dimensions and especially the extra height have eliminated the appeal it used to have for me. The British quirkiness is gone. As to the others, the M5 still strikes me as not designed for California roads and driving patterns, the MB product line leaves me thinking that the CL500 and the E500 are the nicest choices (I find the new SL horrible looking, cheapened by 70s muscle car overstyled elements), the Audi product line leaves me also looking towards the lesser engined product options, and the day I have to not give a damn about the image I project in a professional environment, I'd get myself the new Bentley Continental GT. Or a used classic Continental. Increasingly, I am left feeling that the somewhat older cars have far more character than the over-computerized newer products. A horrible thing to say given the fact I do work in high tech, but hey...
I think the new SL is beautiful, but that's just my opinion and I can't criticize you for yours.
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As to the new SL - too many lines and creases, and the opening on the side are just wannabe classic Gullwing without the class, I think. Overdesigned. I prefer MBs with more subdued and clinical lines, that's where their historical elegance comes from. There's not one single MB classic that has as many "character lines" as the SL has.
I saw some picture about Audi's oncoming "shield grille", and fear that here's another German brand that's going badly astray with its design direction. I just don't see where the problem with continuity is - if a shape works, keep it, that's what makes a classic in the end. This "got to make the new car look different from the old" is the type of mentality that cheapens designs, because it's blatantly designed to get people to buy the newest one asap, and embarass them about being seen in the old model. That does not work with luxury brands - identity and continuity are the traditional key, and I am surprised to see the German car brands have forgotten it. They are opening the window of opportunity for competitors, and it will hurt them. Wait and see.
classic Gullwing without the class, I think. Overdesigned. I prefer MBs with more subdued and
clinical lines, that's where their historical elegance comes from. There's not one single MB classic that has as many "character lines" as the SL has. "
Exactly. I couldn't agree more. Every other current Mercedes is much "cleaner" in design.
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