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A current sedan 6-speed Accord runs the same exact speed, my friend, and its numbers were posted in a much more well-known magazine, Car and Driver.
10 years ago I bought a '97 Maxima, standard 190hp V6, only had it a couple years but it seemed fairly quick. Haven't checked but assume my old Maxima was similar weight compared to current Accord, which has an increase of 50hp more.
Do you other 6cyl guys & gals consider your cars sluggish as well?
My 2004 Accord V6 EX Coupe is completely responsive and has more power than I could ever need if I put the pedel to the metal. The 2003's through 2007's are the seventh generation Accords. Highly recommended.
03 EX V6. It is about as far from sluggish as Pluto is from Mercury. "drive by wire" means immediate response.
The Accord EX-V6, also the loaded model, weighs 3,371 in manual transmission form, and over 3,400 pounds in Automatic form. That's a difference of 300-400 pounds over the 1997 Maxima. Also, torque in the Accord is 211 lb-ft, only 6 more than the old Maxima.
That's why I'm interested in a new Accord. Still waiting just to see what the '08 will be but leaning towards an '07. At the prices they're going for it seems to good to pass up.
With the VSC on the Camry XLE had a shabby slalom speed with its handling rated by Edmunds as only average (Accord's was good and it's slalom time much better w/o VSC). And I don't want to drive a car (most of the time) without VSC. Am I willing to trade $10,000 and on/off VSC for an extra 24hp and 37 lbs-foot @ <rpm? Easy answer: No way, Jose.
I'm in the process of getting online quotes from Honda dealers here in the Houston area. I'm looking for a new 2007 Honda Accord SE 4 cylinder engine. I was quoted from one dealer for $19,200+TTL, fees, (I'm not exactly sure what they mean by fees, maybe destination charge).
I was also told that it would include a free ResistAll exterior/interior sealant (a $695 value, or so they claim) :confuse:
What do you all think?
I greatly appreciate any feedback that I can get!
Thanks,
Josh
As for Car and Driver, they are biased towards BMW and Honda, in that specific order. Something about the way the cars handle and shift with the manual transmissions just turn that staff on. I've owned two Hondas in the past: Integra (Acura = Honda ) and a Honda Prelude. Both shifted very well compared to Nissan/VW models and they handled quite well. The Prelude's handling was especially laudable. While Toyotas (Lexus'es) score every high in comfort and ergonomics, they often get dogged because of floaty handling, etc. Just face it, C&D just drinks the BMW/Honda kool-aid too much.
You think honda is better and I think Toyota is better.....AND, we are both right because we are entitled to our own opinions.
I test drove a few different '07 Accords (along with some GM cars) and decided to purchase an '07 Camry. Toyota rocks!
I think the original poster was referring to not burning any oil. Of course, no one is driving a car without any oil at all.
1987 Civic Wagon - 255k miles before selling (My Grandfather's).
1988 Honda Accord DX - 283k miles and still going (A family friend).
1996 Honda Accord LX - 171k miles and I drive it almost daily.
I used to own a '92 Camry and sold it with 190,000 miles. It may have had the original engine and tranny, but it sank a lot of money into it fixing things.
I would just be worried about the car's safety being that old and with that much "abuse." I'm not sure I would feel safe driving with him.
Grad to see some honest opinions here. :sick:
All of my families and closed friend always have some problems w/ their cars whether they’re Hondas, Toyotas or Nissans. I hate to see when people say “My car is 200K miles and all I need to do is oil change”. A quick example is most cars, may be not all, at or around 100K miles will fail the emission test, need new radiators...
Yesterday, my uncle just traded in his ’97 Camry w/ 93K miles for a new Sienna Why? Well, last summer on his way back home, his car died on the PA Turnpike, he spend about 200$ for towing (w/ AAA discount), and another $200 for repairs + the whole families slept in the car in front of the repair shop. :mad:
During Nov., his lighting system is gone spend another $240 to replace some sensor at a cheap place.
Last month? The car could not pass the inspection cuz of the exhaust. He did not have it repaired at the dealer cuz they wanted around $500. He took it to the small shop again and the guy got an old part from somewhere and tried to reshape it to fit his car (spend $100) good deal? I don’t think so 10 days ago he got the engine light (more likely b/c of the exhaust) and that’s when he decided to let it go.
I do know that I've replaced a few things in my '95 Accord but haven't had any problems with the engine or transmission. I've also never failed an emission test in my state after 220k. It's due next month so I'll keep you posted if I have any problems.
The reality is that even with the repairs I've made, it was far cheaper than buying a new car. Of course, I love my new Accord... and my son loves getting my old one.
But really, the repair costs were not the only reason I bought another Accord. I just liked the way it drove, and everything worked like it was supposed to. The car could have gone at least another 100k miles easy. The check engine light never came on, the entire time. You hear a lot of people who own Accords say "I love my Accord", and I know why. My new Accord (03) has been the same way, only better.
:confuse: currently i am driving a 89 honda accord with 366000 mile on it and car runs perfect and does not have any issues,it has orignal motor and tranny :confuse:
currently i am driving a 89 honda accord with 366000 mile on it and car runs perfect and does not have any issues,it has orignal motor and tranny
He didn't say that he hadn't done repairs on it before though, right? If it ran 366,000 miles without any repairs, I'd cry foul, but I believe that with repairs, that car probably does run great.
Considering the Accord holds its own in different comparison tests now, it's probably a no-brainer the '08 will likely surpass them all.
I'm leaning toward the Accord LX 4 cylinder model because of its sportier styling, handling, and interior, but I'm a little worried about some of the transmission issues I've read about. I know this message board represents a very small portion of Accord/Camry owners, but I noticed that brakes and transmission of the '03 Accord got a half black mark in Consumer Reports while the '03 Camry got better marks and a slightly better reliability rating. I just don't want to worry about any expensive repairs since buying either car used isn't exactly the best deal since they retain their value so well. However, I've read nothing but great things about either, so to me it'd be worth the money. Perhaps I should buy a warranty?
Also, I've read the Accord's ride is firmer than the Camry's, but is it still relatively comfortable and somewhat supple? As long as the ride is considerably better than a car like the Dodge Neon I'm coming out of, I'd be happy. Obviously this is something I'd test out when test-driving the vehicle, but I'm still curious, I guess. :P
Thanks in advance for any advice! I'm a bit new to this.
The Accord's transmission troubles were mainly limited to early V6 models. I haven't heard ONE report of transmission problems from the I4, but have read multiple ones about the 2003 and 2004 V6s.
. I know this message board represents a very small portion of Accord/Camry owners, but I noticed that brakes and transmission of the '03 Accord got a half black mark in Consumer Reports while the '03 Camry got better marks and a slightly better reliability rating. I just don't want to worry about any expensive repairs since buying either car used isn't exactly the best deal since they retain their value so well.
The brake pads put on at the factory were recalled I believe. There shouldn't be an existing problem with new pads (which a 2003 model would like have by now). The system wasn't dangerous or anything, it just had low pad life with a noise problem. Nothing that would get you into trouble.
I'm not making excuses for Honda, as they did have teething problems in 2003, but they were not major, and have been addressed by now.
My grandfather's sister has a 2006 Camry (similar to the 2003 in most ways)... very nice car, quiet and smooth. As exciting as watching C-SPAN, but she's 76 and doesn't want a race car. For smoothness and quietness, it can't be beat at the price point.
I have a 2006 Accord (which is basically the same car as your 2003 Accord you are shopping)... again, very nice car, more pep than Camry, not as quiet, and firmer riding. Not a BMW M5, but a lot more fun than that generation Camry.
I hope this helps at least a little bit, and welcome to the forum!
You can't get bluetooth, 5 star side crash ratings, knee airbags, tire pressure monitor, traction control or stability control on any 4 cyl Accord.
I wound up with an Accord (for well under $20k out the door), but if Toyota had made a Camry LE with a stick shift and no sunroof, then I probably would have bought that. If I could have had the same with bluetooth stability and alloys, then I definately would have bought the camry.
Unfortunately after checking dozens of deals and thousands of vehicles, none are available.
BTW - if Honda made an SEL (SE with leather - or EXL without a sunroof) that had stability control, then Honda would have won no question. I imagine they will cath up to Toyota later this year.
I decided not to wait because I figured that weight would go up and real world mpg and headroom would go down with the new model.
I don't imagine they'd LOSE economy on the new Accord. Its horsepower is already competitive, so they can use A-VTEC to their advantage an increase economy in the next one. Weight went up last time (2003) while economy also jumped as much as 4 MPG depending on model.
They may add a gear to the automatic to help mpg, but I am only interested in the 4-cyl stick shift.
I should have also added that cost is another reason I did not wait. $3,000 off of sticker is not going to happen with the new Accord, and they will probably increase the price by about $500 or maybe a little more.
They are rare, but available. I have seen them.