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BTW, I love the way the sides of the new Accord look, I can deal with the rear end I guess.
Also, just so everyone knows. MY mother is a BIG fan of Honda. She has had 2 Honda Accords, 1 Honda Civic, and 1 Honda Passport(I tried to keep her from getting it) This new Accord does not impress her for some reason. She, like my late Grandmother LOVED the 1990-1993 4th generation design. It was timeless and still looks good today. My grandmother did like the current generation though, and she owned MY 1985 and 1991 Accords. I own bought of them now.
I am smelling record-high sales for the accord. It may not be on the first year but on the following years. I am almost confident to say that it will definitely be a bestseller.
Enjoy!
The new Accord looks good from the side, the rear could be a little better but I have a feeling that it will grow on most of us. I think that the interior will look even better than the exterior. I wonder if Toyota will respond with changes to the 03 Camry ( 5 speed auto, more HP with the V6, etc. )
And I still haven't forgotten that Honda guy saying "240 isn't enough"...I think the Accord coupe will be even stronger.
Bodydouble,
I forgot to mention that this particular aunt is my great aunt, she is 68 years old! Go figure!
Also I have had many many people tell me that Hyundai and Honda are related. My slow Grandfather is quick to argue that they are related because the names sound so similar. That old man thinks that the Accord has an optional V8!!! Now that is FUNNY! And Accord EXV8! He claims that only a few of them are made, and this fool has stocks and bonds!
I am going to go to the Honda dealership on Monday after I get off work. I will talk with my aunt and the GM at the Honda Store where she works, I will try to get ANY info I can on the new Accord, he might not show me any info though. I hope he does. I am interested in either the Accord EX or EX with Leather. The EXV6's rims look nice, I probably make them switch the rims. The White Accord is the EXI4, and those rims are ugly to me.
The specs in the magazine are identified as being for the DX model. Lets hope the LX and EX get 170-180hp...
As for Acura/Honda, one needs only look at the window glass on your Acura to know the parent company is Honda. Its labeled on EVERY window!
My experience is that salesmen know less than most people who are even remotely interested in cars, and are usually full of no information or misinformation. All they want to do is move the product on the showroom floor. I think manufacturers play a part in keeping salesmen uninformed about future products so they'll just concentrate on what they've got right now.
Of course, with the new product right around the corner, salesmen may be slightly less ignorant than usual, but I wouldn't put much faith in the accuracy of their predictions.
its a bit disconcerting because i thought only stick shifts acted like that....
If the hill is steep enough, it will roll back.
Only so much power gets through to the drive wheels, and if that isn't more power than gravity is exerting, the car will roll back.
And how much power gets to the drive wheels varies, for different cars - different transmission setup, different motors, different rolling resistance.
I've seen this question on these boards several times. Most of the times noone answers, because the answer is so obvious.
INKY
HERE U GO!!! ENJOY
Any speculation or knowledge on the subject.
Good try, anyway!
Also I didn't get to go over to the Honda store where my aunt works today. I will try again tommorrow. Hopefully when my mom gets back from Mexico we can go over and talk with the GM, hopefully he will have just a little info on the car. I am definately interested in another Accord, they are good cars. I washed my 1992 Accord up Saturday morning, and the car looks just as good today as it did in May of 1992 when my mother brought it. Hondas styling may be bland, but it is timeless, unlike some cars. My 1991 Accord EX has lost it's transmission, so I might be in the market for a 2003 model, if I don't get the new 6 or Altima 2.5S. Hopefully by the time I am ready to put the 1992 DX in the shop Dick Brooks Honda in Greer, South Carolina will give us a 2003 Accord LX or EX as a rental. They usually always give us either an Accord or Civic to drive for the weekend. The service guy named Tom is one of the coolest service people my family has dealt with. ANY honda we buy will come from Dick Brooks Honda in Greer, SC. I love that dealership! Unlike the one my aunt works for, but I won't mention it's name. Maybe I'll just drive to Greer one afternoon when I am off, and then I'll check up with Tom and see if he knows anything new about the Accord.
Well, Honda had a 2.5 liter V6 (de-stroked version of the Accord 3.0/V6) back in 1999 delivering 200 HP. Next debut of the architecture was in the form of 3.2 liter V6 (260 HP) with CL-S launch. With MDX, the engine was slightly detuned with lower compression and to develop power at low rpm, but displacing 3.5 liters to get 240 HP.
Odyssey (and most recently, Pilot) got a another version of the MDX 3.5 to deliver same, 240 HP, but using regular gasoline.
It was a matter of time Accord got that architecture, hence 240 HP. I can bet it is also optimized to deliver 240 HP using regular gasoline.
240 HP is probably more than I would ever need, I would be about as happy with the car as it looks, even with 200 HP. The center console looks inviting, and quite a departure from older Hondas. I hope that does not translate into poorer layout, just like many European cars end up having. I love the symmetry and simplicity in my '98 EX. Everything is in the right place.
Interesting touches that I gather from the AutoWorld article,
* 5-speed auto for both I4 and V6. I4 also gets 5-speed manual. 5-speed auto, if the same transmission used in TL/MDX/Odyssey/Pilot, is a nice move. Also, it is shorter than the current 4-speed auto in first two gears, and has a taller final gear, meaning, adding to the punch that the engine already has on top of last gen. If the K24A (the I4) is mated to the same 5-speed auto as in base RSX, it is even shorter (12.25:1 first gear overall drive ratio).
* 6-speed manual for V6, possibly only with coupe. This 6-speed could be the same transmission that Honda offered in CL-S. Now, this could be the Prelude replacement Honda promised in 2003. 17" wheels on an American Honda may be the beginning of good things. I've driven an Accord with stock with 17" wheels before, and if it is anything like it, be prepared to take a long drive. Yes, I'm talking about Accord Type-R (Europe).
* Continues to have in-dash CD changer/Cassette.
* The inside fold over the hood ending up as a wide grill reminds me of my 1999 Prelude, except that the shape is now five-pointed instead of being recangular. Honda seems to have been reviving its inside-fold on hood styling from late 80s lately. It started with last Prelude, and continued into S2000 and RSX. This also means the car maintains its low and wide profile, unlike bulky looking front end on many of its competitors.
* The side crease now does not run through the door locks or parallel to it, but slides down to the front to give a wedgier accent (similar to IS300 which looked like Accord sedan to me in the first place).
* The aggressiveness from the side sill is gone. It is plain and simple, but an S2000 like cutout appears where the door meets the side sill.
* The rear is a revival of early 90s Civic sedan (93-95?). Another interesting point I noted is that Honda has been alternating between full width tail lamp and those at the ends.
89-91; 98-02: Have had full width taillamp
92-93; 94-97: At the ends
What about 03? It is almost full width, so it is possible that the next Accord will have it at the ends only. Interesting to see how Honda fiddles with its basic styling theme.
* Gain in wheelbase by an inch. It might be 108.1" now (same as current TL). And overall length, and width and front profile has not changed (it does not look like Honda has used cab-forward theme of Civic/RSX in Accord). And with a platform to support 240 HP (260 HP or more for next TL), it is likely that Honda has continued the use of doublewishbones upfront. I would be curious to see if Honda has retained its unique 5-link rear suspension. They added the fifth link with 1998 redesign compared to 4-link double wishbones of the past (89-97 Accord).
And also curious to see if the new Accord also boasts flat floor. That would be nice.
And for those looking for a smaller, narrower sedan, Acura might still bring over the Euro/JDM Accord as TSX. Makes sense because Honda will probably not offer a sportier trim on American Accord, but only in coupe. TSX might fill the gap. That may be a smart marketing move.
I think it will be a great car as usual.
Now I will sell my 02 Acura 3.2 TL before I get hosed.
INKY
I paid $28k. $3500 for 12 months is not bad. that is only $300 per month. Not bad. So depreciation worse on domestic models. New Accord will be $25k or so.
INKY
The embargo date has to be at the end of the month so that info on the new car can appear in the September new car issues for C/D, MT, R&T, and Automobile.
First signs of more info will be at:
www.auto.com
www.thecarconnection.com
www.automotivenews.com
www.detroitnews.com
Jerry Flint from Forbes may even mention how much better a car it is than any Detroit product in his weekly column...