Forgot to ask...were the Yokohoma tires the Geolander series? I too have read TireRack reviews of this tire, and the G051 Geolanders appear to be rated positively by all reviewers. Am seriously considering replacing the OE Goodyears on my '06 Pilot to try to reduce/eliminate the road noise. Thanks for your reply.
Yes. They are the Geolanders. They are really unbelievable tires. They actually absorb bumps on the road, have less body lean, corner better, are quieter, and are supposed to have great traction in snow. You will really enjoy these tires. They make my road trips more comfortable, and are quality tires.
Let me know on how it goes! Just wondering, are you planning on getting the insulation?
I have ordered 17" acura mdx wheels with michelin cross terrains. I hope to have a dB meter mid-week to measure sound pressure with the 16" Goodyear Integrity tires. I will try to get another measurement after installing the Michelins.
I just put 20 inch rims on my 2005 Honda today. And yeah you guessed it the TMP light came on, can you tell me where I could by the TPM sensors? And how hard are they to put on?
I have a 2003 Pilot and just recently I hear a clicking noise inside the truck near the steering wheel. I think it only happens when I hit the brake and I am I just about to be stopped. I know for sure it is not the clicking you hear from the brakes on the outside, does anyone know what this is?
I bought a 2006 Pilot EX 2WD, and you described exactly what I observed. I brought it to the dealer and that's what they told me too. My question is, does any one else experience this for a 2006 model? I mean, the issue has been there for at least 2 yrs and I would think Honda would have done something about it.
Sorry for the delay in responding....I would probably consider the insulation BEFORE changing tires, but there are no dealers for Dynamat close to me (the closest is about 400 miles). I know JC Whitney has insulation available or I could order the Dynamat, but I'm a clutz when it comes to installing it myself and I'm always leary about fooling with the interior door panels...when removed and replaced, the risk of rattles, etc., in my experience, is increased. IF I decide to pursue the tires, will let you know of the results. I located a dealer in my area that will allow me 24-48 hours of driving on the Yokohomas, and if not satisfied, will replace my OE Goodyears....I should know if the new tires reduce the road noise within about one hour.
I recently went to a dealership to purchase a Pilot. I was looking for a car for my wife and I who are "empty nesters" to use for long trips. I did find the Pilot road noise to be excessive. Just for the hell of it I drove an Odyssey...much quieter. I drove the Odyssey home because it seemed quieter and more comfortable overall..much easier on a bad back. Now reading about the VCM that I got with the EXL model I see that they add several elaborate sound dampening innovations to models with the VCM because that system would be noisy otherwise. I would bet that they do the same with the 2WD Pilot and sort of wish that I would have test driven one for comparison but am happy with my Odyssey.
I just saw my neighbor drive by as I went to my mailbox. He usually is a happy camper but not today.At the back of his truck was a huge banner that read.
PILOT 03 COST OF REPAIRS $600. tightening a gas cap $95.
Only 38,000 miles,14 mpg,$700 worth of repair and more to come, pls buy me.
I do not know what he hopes to achieve with that, maybe just his way of blowing of steam. As a Pilot 03 owner also,I guess I'm lucky I don't have any repairs yet.
Any of you guys with Pilot 03's and have repairs amounting to $700 already? Do any of you think it's worth buying extended warranties to avoid the repair nighmares.
When I read something like this it really burns my [non-permissible content removed]. I took my 2003 Pilot in for a recall and they charged me $95 to reset the computer. Crooks!!!
It's been 3 years since then and I haven't taken the car back to Honda service until today-when I had to.
Purchased a LX model it was making a low baratone noise, took it back was explained it is only in the LX models and it occurs from the engine shifting from 6 cylinders to 3 when 6 aren't needed. "California is aware of this and we are working on a solution", right now they have a temporary fix for this problem, don't know if it works but am very angry they sold me a car with a known problem that was NOT disclosed with the sale of the car. Bought in Ft Myers. Currently it is in the shop being fixed now with the temporary fix. No I didn't hear it with the test drive, not till we took it home. Very disappointed and will never buy another Honda for that reason.
I am also experiencing the VCM issue. Our 06 Pliot 2WD LX makes this humming noise when the ECO come on and even when its off. I also took it to the dealership which said it was the VCM. They are waiting on a fix from Honda Engineers. Not sure if they are blowing smoke. I have taken it back twice for this. What should I do next, any advice? There is no ETA on the resolution. I dont want to keep driving it like this.
You can get the TPM sensors through the Honda parts department like my tire place did. They were $58 each. Since they replace the old valve stems you have to dismount the tires from the wheels to put them on and then rebalance so you may need a tire place to do it. Or you can just live with the light on and not get any use out of this safety feature. That didn't make sense to me which is why I went ahead and paid for new sensors (or they can reuse the original ones). Good luck.
I replaced the Integrity's after 1200 miles on my 06 EXL w/NAV. Went with Fortera Silent Armor. Real improvement on cabin noise. Highest rated tire etc at Trierack.
Hi All On my 2003 Pilot, the air flow from the rear A/C vent has ceased. I checked the fuse, and it is OK. I used to think there was a blower in the rear of the center console, but now I'm inclined to believe that the rear comes through a Tunnel under the center console. If that's right then there is a gate somewhere in the A/C system that directs air to the rear passengers. Has anyone had this problem, or have any ideas what to trouble shoot?
hi brhoads, I have same problem on my '03 pilot rear vent air do not work ! did you get any help from the member yet ?? can you please let me know ? thanks in advance.
I HATE the seats. Within the first week of driving the Pilot my lower back was in so much pain. They did not make the seats for someone short. What worked for me was to go to one of the back stores and have the person come out and take a look at how I sat in the seat.
The man at the store suggested I get a pillow that was shaped like a wedge. It helps but I still find the seat design very uncomfortable.
Now, if I could get the Nav to work, the car to start on the first try and whining noise to go away when listening to CDs, I would be happy.
I have had my Pilot back to the dealer's at least 3 times for the following problems and none of them have been resolved:
Problems: 1. The car does not start on the first try. Nothing happens, the engine does not turnover.
2) The Nav does not work properly. Once it did not find the city I was in at the time, often it wants to send me thousands of miles from where I am and it does not recognize chains that have been in business for decades.
3) The CD makes a whining noise when I step on the gas.
There were some other problems but they were fixed.
Dealer's Response: I have been told that since they cannot duplicate the not starting that it is not a real problem.
They cannot figure out what is wrong with the NAV but suggested I buy the newer version to see if the problem still exists. I asked to try one before buying the latest and was told there was not one available.
I asked if they at least tried one of their own CDs just to make sure that my CD was not defective and they did not do that.
Then I was told that there was a disclaimer in the Nav booklet and that they cannot be responsible for these problems.
As for the whining noise, I was told that they can hear it and that I should go to a specialist and install and after market anti-noise filter.
Has anyone else had these problems and were you able to resolve them?
Any suggestions or advice will be greatly appreciated.
1. The car does not start on the first try. Nothing happens, the engine does not turnover.
I recall a similar problem from several years ago. I believe that it was determined that those with the problem usually were quickly inserting their key and attempting to crank immediately.
Due to the theft-deterent chip inside the key, owners need to slow down this procedure; allow the key to be properly read and okayed by the vehicle BEFORE cranking. I don't remember how much time was needed, try waiting a few seconds after inserting the key before attempting to start.
2) The Nav does not work properly. Once it did not find the city I was in at the time, often it wants to send me thousands of miles from where I am and it does not recognize chains that have been in business for decades
Once does not sound like a problem. I have a portable GPS, and it sometimes takes several minutes to find where I am and triangulate my position.
In my own yard it won't work due to dense tree coverage; it needs an open sky to see the satellites. Maybe the city problems are related, the satellites are obscured by tall buildings.
The software is probably the reason for not finding old business's, but I doubt it'd be worth the expense to try and update it. If they hadn't included those business's in 05, I doubt they added them in 06.
3) The CD makes a whining noise when I step on the gas.
If you are still under warranty, they should follow their own advice, and install a noise filter. If out of warranty, then you should follow this advice.
Thanks. Our garage door openingi s 92", so it would be really tight. Maybe a dealer will let me take it home to try it. Our neighborhood covenants prohibit us from parking outside, so this issue is important. I'd be up the creek if I bought a car that wouldn't fit in the garage!
Did you ever get this problem addressed? Mine has the exact same issue. I took it to the dealer briefly last week and he thinks it is road noise. So I took it to where the tires are warrantied and they checked and said no. So I have checked with 3 other mechanics and they all have said it is the right front wheel bearing. I am really in awe! We have an '86 Honda Accord with 276,000 miles and original bearings. The '05 Pilot is 11 months old and this.
Please let me know what happens here. I am having the same problem. I took mine back and they said that the problem is with the new noise cancellation system and they replaced something. It didn't work.
Also, my goes on and off as I go through different speeds. It is hard to keep the noise going. I will check my ECO light to see if there is a correlation.
I do know on mine that it is related to the outside temperature. It happens mostly during the hottest part of the day. It doesn't happen in the morning.
For those of you who feel that your Pilots tires are noisy, I have a story to tell. My background is that I own a CRV and a Pilot, (and an Accord and a F150) and these boards are full of people (including Consumer Reports articles) that claim these vehicles are noisy.
I've disagreed as I don't perceive them as noisy. I've felt that it must be the difference in the roads surface that they travel upon, or their previous vehicles/experiences. You shouldn't compare a road touring vehicle with an SUV.
However.... I recently had to change tires on my F150, coincidentally wearing the same size as my Pilot. I've now had 4 (of 6) Goodyear Trackers wear unevenly on the F150, so I changed all four to Continental LT/SUV, from Wally World. (Important NOTE: I also thought that the truck was not noisy). These tires were some of the cheapest tires I could find ($95 each), yet they had the best mileage guarantee (80,000 miles).
The trucks alignment, rotation, balance, suspension, pressures, etc, have all been performed frequently, and has always checked out as fine, leading me and my tire people to blame the Goodyears as the problem. Time, and mileage will tell.
After driving with these Continentals I am impressed with how much quieter my F150 is. I am utterly amazed with the difference in noise, or should I say lack of noise. Enough so that it's got me thinking that maybe I've been wrong.
Summary of my story: These tires will become my first choice when the Pilot needs new tires. I have no info on their traction, temps, durability, wet or dry braking, snow or ice capabilities, or any other characteristic that may be important to you. This is only my observation about noise levels, which seems to be important to many others on this board.
My 2006 EX 2WD sometimes makes one or two noise when during the first few seconds when it is stopped. It sounds a little like some kind of fluid hitting around a container, but I am not sure. I couldn't reproduce it when I took it to the dealer. The dealer said it is probably from the gas tank due to lack of any baffles in it. A previous message back in 2004 on this board also mentioned about this (see below).
Does anyone else have this problem for a 2006 model? I'd think if this is true, it should be for all Pilot models.
The clunking is the gasoline sloshing in the plastic fuel tank. This is a known problem with the Pilot. There is no baffling system in the tank to prevent sloshing. The clunk is prominent at 3/4's of a tank full or less and at slow speeds when going into reverse or forward and then putting on the brakes.
I just purchased a 2006 pilot and at 8 and 10k miles it has shut down twice in traffic. Dealership is giving me the run-around. What did they finally do to yours?
Where is this dealer. You are truly getting the run around and should check out another dealer. I wish you allthe luck. You should not have to put up with these problems.
This is a '06 EX-L model, 1,500 miles. Whenever it rains I get water between the water and the seat (the step area). This only happens on the driver and the driver passenger side. Has anyone else had this issue anything to resolve this issue? Thanks.
there is a noise coming from front wheel, when i apply the brake it goes away, is that from the brake, or axle area ? can anybody help ? thanks for advance !
"I bought a 06 2WD EXL last month. The noise coming from the driver and front passenger side windows ....it has something to do with insulation on the door
Any comments? "
This sounds like the "window scrunch" feature that Honda has made available on a lot of Pilots since 2003. It's due to body flex and mostly happens at highway speed. There have been various fixes tried. The dealership will just lube the door seals, but it is only a temporary fix.
You can use a TSB from the gen 1 CRV to fix your problem. Roll down the window and open the door. Place your knee against the middle inside of the door. Grasp the top of the door frame and pull. This will bring the top of the door inward, providing a tighter fitting door seal, thus eliminating the annoying noise feature that Honda has generously built into the Pilot.
Isn't it great that Honda has chosen to continue this feature through four model years?
Just bought a 2006 Pilot EX-L. The window switch bank on the drivers door keeps popping out. Had it back to the dealer three times. Dealer has replaced door panel and just put in a new switch bank. Dealer says this is normal and several of the new pilots on the lot have the same problem. I cannot find anyone who has had this problem, or any recalls addresssing it. Anyone have this problem or know anything about it? Dealer says it is no big deal.
Yes, this happened to me on my '03 Pilot a couple of years ago at 19k miles. I researched the issue and told the dealer it was the OPDS sensor, which was replaced under warranty, and the problem was gone. I think the sensor is within the passenger seat cushion. Good luck.
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Let me know on the results if you add it! Good Luck!
Let me know on how it goes! Just wondering, are you planning on getting the insulation?
acoustic coupling is affected by tire stiffness / inflation pressure.
I am station in Germany.
Thanks
PILOT 03 COST OF REPAIRS $600.
tightening a gas cap $95.
Only 38,000 miles,14 mpg,$700 worth of repair and more to come, pls buy me.
I do not know what he hopes to achieve with that, maybe just his way of blowing of steam. As a Pilot 03 owner also,I guess I'm lucky I don't have any repairs yet.
Any of you guys with Pilot 03's and have repairs amounting to $700 already? Do any of you think it's worth buying extended warranties to avoid the repair nighmares.
It's been 3 years since then and I haven't taken the car back to Honda service until today-when I had to.
On my 2003 Pilot, the air flow from the rear A/C vent has ceased. I checked the fuse, and it is OK. I used to think there was a blower in the rear of the center console, but now I'm inclined to believe that the rear comes through a Tunnel under the center console. If that's right then there is a gate somewhere in the A/C system that directs air to the rear passengers. Has anyone had this problem, or have any ideas what to trouble shoot?
Thanks, Benny
I have same problem on my '03 pilot rear vent air do not work ! did you get any help from the member yet ?? can you please let me know ? thanks in advance.
The man at the store suggested I get a pillow that was shaped like a wedge. It helps but I still find the seat design very uncomfortable.
Now, if I could get the Nav to work, the car to start on the first try and whining noise to go away when listening to CDs, I would be happy.
Good luck with getting comfortable.
Problems:
1. The car does not start on the first try. Nothing happens, the engine does not turnover.
2) The Nav does not work properly. Once it did not find the city I was in at the time, often it wants to send me thousands of miles from where I am and it does not recognize chains that have been in business for decades.
3) The CD makes a whining noise when I step on the gas.
There were some other problems but they were fixed.
Dealer's Response:
I have been told that since they cannot duplicate the not starting that it is not a real problem.
They cannot figure out what is wrong with the NAV but suggested I buy the newer version to see if the problem still exists. I asked to try one before buying the latest and was told there was not one available.
I asked if they at least tried one of their own CDs just to make sure that my CD was not defective and they did not do that.
Then I was told that there was a disclaimer in the Nav booklet and that they cannot be responsible for these problems.
As for the whining noise, I was told that they can hear it and that I should go to a specialist and install and after market anti-noise filter.
Has anyone else had these problems and were you able to resolve them?
Any suggestions or advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
I recall a similar problem from several years ago. I believe that it was determined that those with the problem usually were quickly inserting their key and attempting to crank immediately.
Due to the theft-deterent chip inside the key, owners need to slow down this procedure; allow the key to be properly read and okayed by the vehicle BEFORE cranking. I don't remember how much time was needed, try waiting a few seconds after inserting the key before attempting to start.
2) The Nav does not work properly. Once it did not find the city I was in at the time, often it wants to send me thousands of miles from where I am and it does not recognize chains that have been in business for decades
Once does not sound like a problem. I have a portable GPS, and it sometimes takes several minutes to find where I am and triangulate my position.
In my own yard it won't work due to dense tree coverage; it needs an open sky to see the satellites. Maybe the city problems are related, the satellites are obscured by tall buildings.
The software is probably the reason for not finding old business's, but I doubt it'd be worth the expense to try and update it. If they hadn't included those business's in 05, I doubt they added them in 06.
3) The CD makes a whining noise when I step on the gas.
If you are still under warranty, they should follow their own advice, and install a noise filter. If out of warranty, then you should follow this advice.
Let us know......Wrascal
Steve, Host
I have an appointment with the dealer tomorrow.
Thanks, Benny
Also, my goes on and off as I go through different speeds. It is hard to keep the noise going. I will check my ECO light to see if there is a correlation.
I do know on mine that it is related to the outside temperature. It happens mostly during the hottest part of the day. It doesn't happen in the morning.
I've disagreed as I don't perceive them as noisy. I've felt that it must be the difference in the roads surface that they travel upon, or their previous vehicles/experiences. You shouldn't compare a road touring vehicle with an SUV.
However.... I recently had to change tires on my F150, coincidentally wearing the same size as my Pilot. I've now had 4 (of 6) Goodyear Trackers wear unevenly on the F150, so I changed all four to Continental LT/SUV, from Wally World. (Important NOTE: I also thought that the truck was not noisy). These tires were some of the cheapest tires I could find ($95 each), yet they had the best mileage guarantee (80,000 miles).
The trucks alignment, rotation, balance, suspension, pressures, etc, have all been performed frequently, and has always checked out as fine, leading me and my tire people to blame the Goodyears as the problem. Time, and mileage will tell.
After driving with these Continentals I am impressed with how much quieter my F150 is. I am utterly amazed with the difference in noise, or should I say lack of noise. Enough so that it's got me thinking that maybe I've been wrong.
Summary of my story: These tires will become my first choice when the Pilot needs new tires. I have no info on their traction, temps, durability, wet or dry braking, snow or ice capabilities, or any other characteristic that may be important to you. This is only my observation about noise levels, which seems to be important to many others on this board.
Does anyone else have this problem for a 2006 model? I'd think if this is true, it should be for all Pilot models.
Thanks
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The clunking is the gasoline sloshing in the plastic fuel tank. This is a known problem with the Pilot. There is no baffling system in the tank to prevent sloshing. The clunk is prominent at 3/4's of a tank full or less and at slow speeds when going into reverse or forward and then putting on the brakes.
Any comments? "
This sounds like the "window scrunch" feature that Honda has made available on a lot of Pilots since 2003. It's due to body flex and mostly happens at highway speed. There have been various fixes tried. The dealership will just lube the door seals, but it is only a temporary fix.
You can use a TSB from the gen 1 CRV to fix your problem. Roll down the window and open the door. Place your knee against the middle inside of the door. Grasp the top of the door frame and pull. This will bring the top of the door inward, providing a tighter fitting door seal, thus eliminating the annoying noise feature that Honda has generously built into the Pilot.
Isn't it great that Honda has chosen to continue this feature through four model years?