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If it's a 4-speed 41TE, it really is a record, and a miracle if it's all original - 50-60,000 miles and those are usually ready for the scrap pile or a rebuild (if you get that far - our first one died at just under 18,000 miles).
I've had two cars with Torqueflite 904's that have been rebuilt. The first was in a '68 Dodge Dart with a 318. The guy that had it before me had the engine rebuilt at around 240K or so. When they rebuilt it, I think he had some high performance parts put in...whatever he did, he had about $4,000 in receipts to show for it. Well, all that added power from the rebuild didn't to the old TF or the 7.25 rear end any good...shredded them both fairly quickly. So he threw in a used tranny and rear end from a junked '69 that a friend of his had sitting in his back yard. Now, at 338K miles, the tranny is still doing fine. This guy also bragged about (and showed me, when he took me out for a spin in it) how you could manually hold first gear up to around 52 mph and then chirp the tires shifting into second. Maybe the increased power from the rebuild wasn't the only factor in that tranny's demise! ;-)
The only other one was a '79 Newport 318 I bought from the junkyard for $250. It needed a new tranny, but also had about 230K miles on it. And this was still just a little 904 in a full-size car. If the 904's were this sturdy, I wonder how bullet-proof the 727's must've been!
-Andre
I don't know whether this is a Chrysler-U.S. design, but suspect that it is (the rest of the Omni-Horizon wasn't - it was a product of Rootes/Hillman of England and Simca of France, which comprised most of Chrysler Europe at the time - though the first engines hailed from VW).
Lucky for us, my wife only drives about 10,000 miles a year. So we figure a new transmission, at $2,000, every 5 to 6 years is still less expensive than a car payment.
Regarding high mileage; 1984 Mercedes 300D that went over 225,000 with no engine or transmission work. 1978 Chevy Suburban went over 150,000 before I got rid of it in 1998. When I bought it in 1992 it only had 49,000 miles and not a bit of rust. Only driven in the summers to pull a guys boat on vacation. It sure started to rust quickly once it became my daily driver. But I bought it for $3500 dollars and put over 100,000 miles on it. Only had to put on new tires, a new dual exhaust, a fuel pump and a battery. We then sold it for $2500 when we purchased my wifes van.
That Suburban was the best impulse purchase I ever made. The factory 8-track still worked when we sold it.
Car was bought in 1986 with 12k miles by my parents who used it as "the good car" until i took it over in 1993 with 76,000 miles. Other than regular "wear items" and tune ups, the only engine work has been a water pump. Had the transmission serviced at around 95k by dealer. Finally wore out an upper control arm bushing and front sway arm bushings somewhere around the 150k mark. Car will still pass E-check just fine, long as it's properly tuned up with a fresh oil change. (Fresh oil is the key to low CO readings.) Oil consumption is (and has been for last 100k or so) about a quart every 3k, but most of that quart leaks past the left valve cover, out the rear main, and the well worn valve guide seals every morning, and that's ok, at 3k miles, it's due for a change anyway.
Body still decent, though the N.E. Ohio winters have really started to take a toll in the last couple years.
I strongly believe that many more people could join this "club" of high-mileage cars by simply following a simple concept called "preventive mainanence". Change the oil, change the filters, keep it tuned up. it'll last as longer than the manufacturer ever planned.
1989 Ford Escort, 4-cylinder, 5-speed, 5-door, bought off an eBay auction for $202.51, had 350K on it, no kidding.
1988 Buick Century, 4-cylinder, automatic, 4-door, bought off another eBay auction for $275.00, had 217K when I bought it, now has 226K and climbing, air still works, original engine and transmission, needed lots of rust work to pass inspection (gas lines, parking brake, etc...) but is my daily driver right now.
1975 Olds Cutlass Supreme, 350, automatic, 4-door, bought from a tire shop mechanic for $100 a couple months before I turned 16. I could see the white smoke from my house when I rode my bike over to see what was the matter with it. IT was burning lots of coolant. I replaced both head gaskets and repaired one crack in one cylinder head. 224K at purchase, 226K at sale.
1989 Plymouth Voyager, 4-cylinder, 5-speed, minivan, bought at a police abandoned auction about a month ago for $325, drives OK but needs a wheel bearing now (thought it was a CV axle but they are fine), 214K at purchase, 216K sitting outside now.
1992 Dodge Dynasty, 3.3V6, automatic, 4-door, bought with 159K, transmission had been installed at 152K, drove to 188K, current owner now has 207K on it (as of yesterday). He fixed the AC which broke the week after I bought the car. That was a $2300 car.
1980 Datsun 210, 4-cylinder, automatic, wagon, bought from a junkyard for $350, had 176K at purchase, sold to a friend who I THOUGHT would take care of it and he ran it into a pole. That white car would've hit 250K easy, it used no oil, ran like a sewing machine, looked like it had half the miles, it was a Budget Rent-A-Car from birth to 18K, second owner took it to the 176K mark, I only got 2,000 out of it, but my friend said it had 185K when he cracked it up.
1992 Buick Century, 4-cylinder, automatic, 4-door, this is my Dad's car that my sister is driving, it had 172K when he gave it to her, several belt tensioners, an alternator, a starter, and not much else. Michelin tires on that one, lasted forever, my Dad had it aligned every other oil change, like the 160K '95 Century he's driving now.
Note...three Buick Centuries, two Chryslers, one mid-seventies rustbucket, one ridiculously high-mileage Escort, and only one import. Hmm...and the import is a rear-drive, live axle, pushrod engine, low tech workhorse Japanese car. The other 210 I had (the yellow one) hit 162K and I don't know how far after that.
That Escort was my first new car and was the most reliable car I owned. In looking around for a second car to get for my wife (who is about to get her license and will then have her first car) I will probably pick up another 93-94 Escort used for her because she liked it and the one I had ran well.
Freddo K.
I replaced the engine at 353,000, and only did regular maintaince and very minor repairs. What has amazed me and lots of others is the transmission, no repairs just fluid changes about every 50,000. Changed differential and transfer case fluids every 100,000. I'm meticulous about maintainence and records. My average cost/mile $0.14, total for all expenses including gas, oil, tires, belts, hoses, etc.
I'm surprised there haven't been more diesel mercedes owners chiming in here. C'mon. where are those million mile stories?
OK. My father's '87 K5 Blazer 5.7 auto. 280,000+ miles before selling it for $3500 in '95. It did, however, get a new engine at 99,xxx miles (just a few hundred miles before the expiration of the insane extended warranty he purchased - *whew*). But, over 180K on the next engine and never a squeak from the tranny or anything else the entire time.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
This car is something else. I am the original owner and this thing just won't die. Its runs like brand new.
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Drives like new
Have 112K on 97 accord-zero problems-expect this one to last to at least 300K unless a 18 wheeler gets me.
In 1996 I bought a Daytona with 58K on it for $3400. Drove it 2 1/2 years and sold it at 95K for $3000, which figures to about 1.08 cents per mile.
Just sold my 1994 Dodge spirit last year w/ 147000
miles on original 3.0 V6 and 3spd tranny. Began seeping oil @100000 mi and starter went at 145000 mi. Got tired of oil spots on my garage floor and tried to fix it twice. Bought a Honda Accord so that I can drive a car that will really last a long time!
drove it for 3 years before being involved in an accident which totaled it. The Buick lasted until 186k mi but it had started to smoke badly and the compressor didn't work but it was dependable and never left us stranded. Dad replaced the Buick with 90 Toyota truck xtra cab v6
bought new and still has. It has over 200k miles but tranny is bad. Since 95 it just sits in his driveway and he hardly ever drives it. 95 he bought 95 t-bird v8 and traded it in 98 with 80k no problem miles for 850 Volvo which he still drives today
My longest running was also a Pontiac - '67 GTO 400. I ran it to just about 180,000, but the body/suspension was shot, so a guy bought the engine and put it in a speed boat.
As someone mentioned earlier, Mercedes would seem to be the ultimate in high-mileage vehicles. Who else has a "million-mile club"?
These are not cheap to maintain or repair but around 15 cents per mile can keep one like brand new up to 250,000 miles.
We service at least 8 LS400 with over 250,000 miles abd dozens of Q approaching 200,000 miles.
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The other example is the 1991 Toyota truck I inherited just recently. It has 218k miles on it, it has required minimal maintenance and it still runs great. This truck is the base model, no power steering, no a/c, vinyl seats, 2.4L 4cyl.
The unusual thing is that I have original clutch and brakes (5 mm remain on the front and 6 mm on the back). I figured that I would go through the clutch with all of the down shifting but not yet. Around 50-50 freeway and town. The freeway driving is slow-n-go < 25% of the time--the rest of the time I drive 70-75+ mph on the freeway. I am looking to get close to 300k on the original brakes. I have no idea how long the clutch will last.
I initially did a lot of off road (that is completely off road, not just dirt roads)--some mud and a lot of cobbles. Most 4-wheel drive time the last 5 years has been on snow. The main problem I have is a worn seat back on the driver's side where I abrade it every time I get in.
on it and going strong. regular oil changes every 3k miles using mobil 1 from the start, this truck has a lot of power left in her so far. And to top it all off still blow the doors off these newer Japanese SUV's. Had 1 problem with engine around 150K miles had to change water pump, tranny never had problems, no slippage as of yet. At 200k miles gonna give it a full tune up and I'm good to go for another 100k miles.
Also had a 83 Toyota tercel 4WD wagon with the 6 speed stick that went 250k on the original clutch, I kid you not. The body color matched the duct tape the tried to seal the holes. But the floor-boards rotted out and I trade the wagon for.....another one, an 86, same color, no tape. Everyone at work thought I spent my vacation doing body work on the 83!
Aunt's 89 Corolla: Still no problems 150K.
There's an 89 Supra in the family: Twin turbo, both turbos still fully functional, just starting to show its age at 200K. It's had problems, but mainly due to owner error or abuse, such as my uncle inadvertantly putting regular in when it needed synthetic. Now THAT little faux pas caused some expensive damage.
It's replacement is an '84 Honda Accord with 170,000 miles on it. This thing runs and drives like a new car! The engine is smooth and quiet, uses no oil, and has no leaks. I think it may just give the Chevy a run for the money!
My grandfather has a 1987 Ford F-150 (302 w/ 3 speed auto) that has 311k hard driven city miles, and as far as I know it's still on the origional drivetrain.
My dad's 1994 Explorer Sport has 191k on the with no repairs since he bought it at 140k. He also has an '87 Aerostar, bought at 88k, went through 2 transmissions (pathetic Ford A4LD) until the body came apart at 239k.
My friend had an '88 Honda Prelude 2.0si, bought at 96k in 1990. The car had 278k when we tore it apart to build a racer out of it, and we were stil able to use the factory bottom end and main bearings in a turbo installation.
-Andrew L
Almost looks as good as the day we bought it.
Shiny paint, no dings, lots of wax and love.
We change the oil every 3K, and keep it up.
Biggest pain I've had is getting the timing belt replaced, which is every 60K. I hear the new 02 Camry uses a timing chain on the 4-cyl.
Catch the little problems before they get bigger.
Maybe this thing doesn't get the prize for the most miles but it surely deserves recognition for the biggest heart...