GMC Envoy Headlight Problems
greenmanalishi
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I bought a used 07 Envoy. The headlights are out of wack. How do I align them? I saw that the light compartments have two small tabs that you pull up to release the headlight compartment, but I didn't want to mess with it.
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$1300 seems way overboard. You can get a replacement bulb far cheaper than that at an auto parts store. What exactly did they do for $1300?
tidester, host
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help ONLINE for a cheaper cure, would like to convert both headlights to STANDARD HEADLIGHTS. So far I don't know if its possible. The dealer can't give me a answer, they dont know for sure!!!!
tidester, host
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Using the limited information on the internet I was able to convert the HID headlights to standard 9006 bulbs.
- I unplugged the wiring harness from the ballast that is mounted within/behind the bumper. I was able to unplug the harness without removing the ballast.
- I tested the harness to ensure with a voltage tester to ensure the harness connector was 12.8v +/-.
- The harness connects directly to a 9006 headlight. I bought one for $10 to ensure the appropriate fit and operation.
- The original headlight assemblies (GM 16525606 / GM 16525605) do not allow for a direct connection with a 9006 bulb.
- After talking to AutoZone and Advance Auto I got a quote for new headlight assemblies (GM2503174 and GM2502174) that would fit at $273 each. Though the bulb would connect to the new assembly - again, too much money. They advised they did not know of an “adaptor” that could mount to the existing assembly and accept the 9006 bulb.
- Through Amazon.com I found Vehicle Interior Parts. They have a storefront on Amazon. I ordered the following from them –
o 1998-2001 GMC S-15 Jimmy Left Side Front Only Headlamp HeadLight W/O FOG LAMP,LEFT HAND replaces OEM 16526227 Hollander 114-535L Partslink GM2502174
o 1998-2001 GMC S-15 Jimmy Right Side Front Only Headlamp HeadLight W/O FOG LAMP,RIGHT HAND replaces OEM 16526228 Hollander 114-535R Partslink GM2503174
o Total cost including shipping for both New assemblies was $84.00 - they arrived few days later via UPS packaged well and in new condition.
o Each assembly included the high and low bulbs already.
- I was unable to remove the existing ballast from behind the bumper. I was uncomfortable removing the body/bumper panels to gain access to remove the bumper itself. Therefore I zip tied the existing HID behind/next to the assembly location.
- I removed the existing assemblies, installed the bulbs and connectors into the new assemblies and then installed the new assemblies.
- The wiring harness on the driver side barely had enough length to plug into the slightly different bulb locations in the new assembly. I managed to manipulate the harness enough to get it installed though.
Do you have any idea what it could be?
Are "relays" the same as fuses?
Thanks
Same story, passenger low-beam died and I was quoted over $1300. Went to a local auto store and bought the 9006 low-beam and the socket for it. Total $20. I removed the headlight cluster and took out the old HID light and igniter. Following the wire back to the ballast, I cut it and threw it all away. I left the old ballast where it was because it was a pain to get at. Next I cut the wires going into the ballast on the opposite side from the one I just cut. This is just the good old regular juice to make the good old regular headlight you just bought work. Wire the two together and you are good to go.
You will have to make sure the new light is secure in the cluster. I used a short piece of metal strapping and screwed it right into the same holes. I may do the driver's side just to get them both out of the way. Total cost $40, or maybe $75 if you want higher end bulbs.
So I decided to try the two headlight assemblies you listed from Vehicle Interior Parts on Amazon. $35/ea + shipping = not bad. They got here quickly and were well packaged and brand new.
The passenger side was a breeze since the 9006 connector had already been freed from the ballast. The driver's side was tougher. I tried like hell to remove the ballast, but without completely removing the front bumper cover, it seemed impossible. Then I just tried to get the 9006 connector free, which was also a [non-permissible content removed] because it was impossible to get my hand into the space where it was connected. I fussed with trying different angles for a good half hour. I finally sent a long flathead screwdriver into the cavity and it pried off really easily (note to self for next time). At this point, the original assembly was now dangling from the ballast. I cut the wire as close to the ballast as I could and was finally free to install the new light. The wires barely reached, but they did.
This is an excellent solution for those of us who prefer regular, easy to find, cheap headlights over proprietary redonkulously expensive HIDs.
I have replaced the fuses for both headlights and checked the battery, in case a cable was loose.
It turned off on me when the car was on but in park. It has come back on for me once. This was after I hit the top of the fuse box cover to lock it back in place and the lights immediately turned on.
Could anyone tell me what else to check for?
on-line and what your mechanic had to do exactly. That would really help my mechanic who I think will take this job on if its not going to be a nightmare!!
Would appreciate additional info from you-it would really help.
Thanks you much, in advance
Doug
Thank you (INADVANCE)
Doug
Thank you for the help! Now I'll go sell the good side and the ballast and ignitor for the other. As it turns out, just the bulb was burned out but in the long run, the conversion will be more cost effective.
Long Story Short (PROBLEM FIXED) with a total cost of UNDER-
$ 200.00 to change out BOTH HID HEADLIGHTS to Brand new
CONVENTIONAL HEADLIGHTS (Now can go to any Auto Parts Store and buy a $2.00 blub if one goes bad) WHEW!!!!
***Running out of room (SEE PART-2)
1- Purchased 2 BrandNew Headlights From;
headlightwarehouse.com (651-644-3456)
*LEFT (Headlight) Partslink GM2502174 (Part # 14-00535L) $ 64.00
*RIGHT (Headlight) Partslink GM2503174 (Part# 14-00535R) $ 64.00
SHIPPING $ 14.75
ARRIVED 2 days later (Perfect Condition) for TOTAL ( $ 142.75 )
I managed a (No restocking Fee-Return Policy) !!!!!!!!!!
2- My buddy (Did NOT HAVE TO CUT ANY WIRES)
3- Removed Each Assembly (Easy remove clips behind assembly
that pull straight up- the light can be pulled out-dangling)
4- Uplugged the (Harness Plug from Ballast) Ballast located below
Headlights/Behind Bumber). He layed on his back and got under
car with a long screw driver to help unplug the plug from BALLAST.
to connect HARNESS PLUG to NEW ASSEMBLY)
6- He connected the Harness Plug from EACH BALLAST and
connected the plugs into the NEW L&R ASSEMBLIES.
No wires to Cut. The Drivers Side -Harness Plug after removal from
Ballast had to be maneuvered below AC Lines in order to reach
plug-in on NEW ASSEMBLY. Buddy says the job is DO-ABLE!!!!
7- My PAX SIDE (BALLAST) was bad, dont know about IGNITER.
8-Kept Drivers Side HID ASSEMBLY (Still Good) if you want it Free!!
or if you can use my Old (Drivers Side Headlight Assembly). Its your Free. Also if in the Dayton Ohio area- My good mechanic will change out your HID Headlights for Conventional ones. Thanks again for all
that responded to my earlier request for info on this matter-It really PAID OFF.
You are a life saver. I bought a 2000 Envoy in April 2010. The headlight went out and I thought it would be an easy fix. Longer story short the dealer said the part would be $786 for the driver side headlight because it was a H.I.D. Igniter and ballast Headlight. I said there is no way I’m paying that much for 10 year old SUV. So I have been searching high and low for a solution on the net and there you appeared. I called the website you suggested and they have a GMC Jimmy headlight in stock and Kerry the sales associate remembered you and said she is glad everything worked in your favor.
Well have fabulous Memorial Day and I hope everything goes as well for me.
Signed,
C.princess
Best of luck changing out those over priced headlights. Have a good mechanic do it, he'll figure it out, FOR SURE. My mechanic was great and figured everything out by reading past POSTS on this site. Took him about an hour, maximum.That headlight place I purchased the lights at, where great to work with, and I remember KERRY, she sounded like a "BABE" !! Wish I could see her pic !!!
I think I actually like these NEW conventional headlights BETTER, than the original HID, they seem just as bright !!!
GOODLUCK. Shame on you GMC for putting these high priced
headlights on a low priced Vehicle in the first place, it isn't a LEXUS!!
You've caused alot of headaches, to alot of us.
I am very interested in the drivers side assembly if you still have it. Let me know if it is available. Thanks for your input!
Sorry bout that--and--good luck with your FIX. For less than $200 my belief is you will be happier with a complete changeout to brand new conventional---I was !!!
one of the local Salvage yards, I think it was RIVERSIDE or Clayton, called me back and said they could get the Conventional Headlights from Online and I could pick them up in person. Try some LOCAL junkyards to you and explain that you need to pay by cash or check, and I'll bet they will order the Headlights for you and have them delivered to their location so you can pick them up. (Give them the number of the place I purchased mine)- you'll see in my prior posts all the information regarding where I purchased mine online. GOODLUCK
1. Philips D1S Bulb Xenstart ($50.00 ea) Ebay. 2 ea
2. Philips Xenstart ballast (Cadilac XLR) Same Ballast as what you get from GM. (Price Varies) 2 ea
3. Pair of D1S Bulb Holders. ($30.00)
4. Pair of D1S Cables 49CM (SUV Lights.com) $75.00 for a pair includes shipping. You have to modify the bulb holders to mount to the mounting screw locations of the headlight. You will also have to mount the ballast and connect the ballast to the factory harness. May have to splice the connector in.
If any one wants pics just email me at nolanpa@cableone.net
Pics would be great - if you post them on your CarSpace page then future visitors won't have to try to track you down for them. Thanks!
Somewhere on this forum, I read to change the #46 (headlight module) and #45 (air control module) and thankfully it has solved the problem - PARTIALLY.
My headlights now turn on when I unlock the car AND they turn on when I manually turn them on. HOWEVER, they still don't work in the automatic position.....not a big deal as at least I can drive at night again without blinding anybody.
But can anyone tell me what this means, what the problem is and if it is something that has to be done by a mechanic, how much it will cost?
ALSO, do I need to switch #45 an #46 back to their original position or can I continue to drive like this without anything else going wonky on me?
If I MUST switch them back, then does that mean that I need to buy another #46 ?
Thanks so much!