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  • Ok...one more question (I should have asked before) - Do map updates include POI updates or will those basically stay the same as the prior version?

    Thanks!
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    Yes it will update the POI's. All map updates do that. Thats the whole point in doing that. I could see another software update via a TSB.
  • nstuffnstuff Posts: 25
    M&Soft has just announced that they are accepting pre-orders for the updated maps.

    Link: https://www.mapnsoft.com/news/content.asp?name=news&id=53

    As is usual, their website is barely functional. I checked and the 2009 Sonata isn't even an option yet. Maybe soon, but right now, only the 2008 is available. Not only that, but they decided to forget that I had previously registered with them (and my ID worked yesterday). Hopefully they get their website problems figured out soon.

    Anyone call them up yet to see what all is new in the update outside the typical new roads and POI content?
  • peridocperidoc Posts: 18
    I too am interested in knowing what the other enhancements might be. I got a mailer today in the mail stating that the update contains "Countless updates to POIs, updated road information, and more!" I wonder really what the "and more" part is. If anyone finds out the specs, please share...
  • peridocperidoc Posts: 18
    I posted a message on their forum/list on their website and here is the response I got:

    During this new update there has been:
    approx. 200,000 additions to POIs

    The "and more" could include:
    approx. 3,000,000 additions to addresses.
    approx. 130,000 additions to Telephone numbers
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    Make sure you use the code PRE1 when ordering so you get an $80 if you order by 1.31.09.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    09 Sonata now uses 2X for it's SKU. Might want to go to their website and call their number to make sure you get the right one. Make sure you order it and use the code PRE1 since that gives you a 40 percent discount on it.
  • nstuffnstuff Posts: 25
    I called MapNSoft yesterday. I think the main confusion about what they are providing is that they are just releasing updated map information. So it is highly possible there literally is nothing more on the DVD than just updated POI's, locations, phone numbers, etc.

    One piece of info he did give is that when you do order the dvd and you receive it. After updating the map software in the navi, you will be provided with a number that you will then need to call to MapNSoft and give them this number. They will then generate a code and give it to you to enter into the navi. Without this code, you will not be able to use the updated map section.
  • peridocperidoc Posts: 18
    I called as well to get more clarification and they told me that this update was just a road and information (address, POI, tel numbers) update. There are no different graphics or enhancements other than those included in the two areas I just listed. (according to them)
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    Go to setup and press system info. That will show the device ID for map updates.
  • I was wondering if anyone had gotten the Navigation System map update from MapNSoft? What are your impressions and what have you noticed new in the update that was not there before? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    Okay, I got the update for the 2009 Sonata. It took a bit to get it loaded. At first it would say it was verifying the DVD, but then it would just spit it out. I called MapnSoft and he had me reset (the small little button to the top left of the Tune dial) the Nav Unit first and then do the install. That did the trick. Although, it takes about 90 minutes then for the install.

    Once installed, I found that it updated to the map to v1.09.13 and it also updated the software to v_015. There some new features that I noticed off the bat, such as an Emergency button on the Navigation Destination screen. The QWERTY keyboard issue also appears to have been resolved.

    On the downside, I noticed that when doing the reset, which has to be done at some point during the update, it actually wipes all your settings (programmed radio stations, address book).

    There is also a new quirk with the Random button. When selecting Random while playing my iPod, it first goes to Album Random and then Random. So now, you have to hit Random twice everytime you turn on your car or switch components if you want to randomize your playlist. Ugh! Just what I need, more wear and tear on my touchscreen.

    - Merg
  • nstuffnstuff Posts: 25
    themerg,

    You had a rather excellent post previously (linked below) describing each of the 6 major issues with the navi.

    You mentioned the qwerty and random issues appear resolved. I'd be interested in if the other four are fixed too.

    When I spoke with M&Soft a while back, the guy suggested that they build the database and send it off to get the dvd created and then sent back to be sold. He said the only changes he knew of were the map database, but couldn't give me any specifics on other updates although he suggested it could be possible.

    Now we know they did fix a few of the outstanding issues.

    I just wish M&Soft techs were better informed about what they were selling.

    Post I'm referring to with list of bugs: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f1b1997/75
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    Here is an updated list of issues...

    1. QWERTY Keyboard - Corrected
    Initially Reported: 09/2008
    When setting the keyboard layout to be in QWERTY mode, the keyboard layout reverts to Alphabet mode after changing the System mode (switching components) or when turning the Nav System off and on. The default settings menu will still show the layout selection to be in QWERTY mode even though it displays the keyboard in Alphabet mode.

    2. iPod Random Issue
    Initially Reported: 10/2008
    When selecting the iPod to play at Random, the feature is turned off if a different mode is selected, the audio system is turned off and on, or the Tuning dial on the radio is used to select a new song. The Random selection should be maintained during any of these changes.

    3. Address Book Sorting Incorrect
    Initially Reported: 10/2008
    When sorting the Address Book alphabetically and not by date, new addresses are incorrectly sorted when added. New addresses are added to the end of an addressbook instead of alphabetically. To correct the issue, you have to go into the settings and reselect alphabetically.

    4. System Hang - One Time Issue
    Initially Reported: 10/2008
    Had an issue where the Hyundai logo stayed on screen and nothing could clear it. I tried to turning off and on the car and the same thing happened. I hit the Display button and the display settings screen came on. When I hit another button to try to get the iPod screen, I got a Windows pop-up on the screen that told me I had a fatal application error. I selected OK and the system rebooted and started working fine.

    5. iPod Not Turning Off - Possibly Corrected
    Initially Reported: 09/2008
    When turning off the car, my iPod is not turning off on its own. According to the developer it is supposed to. Also, I found that if I manually turn it off while leaving it connected, it sometimes turns back on a few minutes later even though the vehicle is off. I am unsure if somehow it is receiving power when the car door is opened or not, but something is triggering it to turn back on.

    Update 02/13/2009: I left the iPod on after turning off my vehicle. When I returned 10 minutes later, the iPod was off and I still had a full charge. I will see if it continues to do this.

    6. USB Device Random Issue
    Initially Reported: 10/27/2008
    When using a USB drive to play music files, the Random setting works as long as you do not change a song manually. As soon as you change the song using the steering wheel controls or the radio seek buttons, the Random setting turns itself off.

    7. iPod Random Issue: Part 2
    Initially Reported: 02/13/2009
    When hitting the Random button, it now selects Album Random first and then Random. This means that you have to hit the button twice to randomize playback of your playlist. This will cause a lot of extra wear and tear on the touchscreen.

    Enhancements of Note
    Artist names and album names now scroll if they are too long to be displayed
    Emergency button on the Destination screen (links to police, hospitals, and dealerships nearby)

    I know some other things changed, but can't remember exactly how they were before. I'll post when I figure it out.

    - Merg
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    I updated the list.

    Regarding fixes, the Random issue is not fixed; it's actually worse now.

    As for M&Soft, I talked to them again today. They only update the map, POI's, etc. They send it off to Hyundai Autonet to put on the DVD and then it is returned to them for sale. Apparently, the map itself cannot just be updated. When performing the map update, you are actually reinstalling the software for the Nav unit. Hyundai Autonet takes advantage of this to release updates to their software.

    I sent off an e-mail to the contact for Hyundai Autonet USA, once again. We'll see what happens.

    As for the map, I did notice a new street from last July is still not on the map and a government office that was built about 4 or 5 years ago is still not represented on the map.

    - Merg
  • I am wondering how long it will be for those of us that do not purchase the map update to get a software update to the unit to bring them to the same software version. Any way you can inquire with your contact about that?

    Thanks!
  • bs205bs205 Posts: 7
    Should have responded a long time ago - my bad. Anyway, the replacement of the unit fixed all issues. Dealer did a good job, no muss, no fuss.

    This is probably a dumb question but does anyone know how or if MS Streets & Trips trip maps can be used or loaded into this nav system?
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    Negative. The maps are updated as part of the software install. You need to have an install DVD from MapnSoft in order to update your map.

    - Merg
  • i360i360 Posts: 74
    ...such as an Emergency button on the Navigation Destination screen.

    That has been there on mine since day one. It has the police, hospital & Hyundai dealerships listed in there.
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    Did they change the icon for it? I really don't remember seeing that there before. Maybe the icon was blah enough before that it just didn't stand out to me...

    - Merg
  • knighterknighter Posts: 1
    Just purchased a 09 Sonata Limited with the Infinity radio/gps. I did not get a manual with it. Would you have the model number of the radio so I can try to find the correct manual. It is not the same radio/gps found in other Hyundai models.

    Thanks for any info
  • peridocperidoc Posts: 18
    Are there any more updates at the dealer for the Nav system other than the original one that came out a while back? I am getting ready to go in for service and did not know if I needed to ask for one. Thanks!
  • nstuffnstuff Posts: 25
    None that I know of.

    However, I just tried to update mine having bought the update from M&Soft and I am unable to do so. I get a Disc Error when I try. After having tried a second disc mailed to me, M&Soft seems to think that the disc may not be designed with my navi's version. My navi was at version v_A3_3 when i bought it and since i have yet to be able to update it, it remains at this version. I'm awating a call back from M&Soft on what they want to try next.
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    I had an issue too of it not reading the disk. I needed to reset the Nav system first and then do the update. It worked fine that way.

    - Merg
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    The most recent version from the dealer will be v_A3_3. The next version after that is only available with the map update from M&Soft.

    - Merg
  • nstuffnstuff Posts: 25
    well, we (Map&Soft + Hyundai Autonet and I) got the update dvd to work. Don't ask me why, but the solution ended up being to play a movie dvd first, then immediately try updating with the update dvd. Over 1 hour later, and it finished.

    Updated navi software went to a completely different version # scheme. I went from V_A3_3 (before update) to V_015.

    I've noticed the 'random' button changes. It defaults to 'album random' on first press, requiring a second press to get the normal 'random' which i also agree is annoying. However, that might be a decent tradeoff when considering gaining the keyboard staying in QWERTY mode. That was a horrible bug.

    I'll play around some more, but so far, i'm noticing mostly cosmetic changes. Example, in the sound section, they flipped the BAS MID, TRE to Treb Mid Bass.

    Another bug i want to test out is if the random feature sticks when switching various modes. Before, you would enable random, go to map, then on return to the Aux screen (for connected ipod), random would be turned off again. I hope this is fixed.
  • nstuffnstuff Posts: 25
    disregard the comment about the random feature staying on when switching audio sources. I reread some comments about that earlier in this thread. From prior comments, i can see that things will most likely stay the way they were on the older version.
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    Yeah, the Random issue is still present. It will stick when going back and forth from the Map to the iPod, but will not stick if you switch to a completely different input or turn off the vehicle.

    I was told by the developer that it had to do with how the iPod is connected and they cannot change that. I disagree with that though. All it would take would be to store the current setting of the Random property similar to how they are storing the radio stations in memory, your settings for the Navigation system, etc. When you select the Aux input, it would just pull up that setting.

    As for the new Random order, it is also a little confusing. It says Album Random, which to me meant that it would play the current album in a random order. Instead, it means that it will play a random album when it is finished playing the current album.

    I also think they dropped the ball when it comes to listing the playlists, artists, and albums. I think they should use the blank space to the left of the listings to show groupings of letters. That way you can easily jump to that group of letters. It can take a while for the list to scroll to the M's when you have a couple thousand songs on your iPod.

    It would have also been nice to have a "Play Random" button at the top of any playlist/artisit/album. That way you could easily select one and have it start to randomly play as opposed to having to select at least one song and then hitting random.

    As for the actual navigation, 've also noticed that the time estimates are not very accurate. According to the Navigation setup, there are three types of roads that you set the average speed (local, main, interstate). When setting up a route and selecting minimize interstate, I'll notice the the little mileage indicator will display that my route is 0 miles on the interstate. Yet, my time to drive my route is almost 1 mile per minute (thus estimating a speed of almost 60mph). If I alter the Navigation setting for the Interstate speed, my time for these routes will change. On the map, these roads are being displayed though only as local or main roads. Obviously there is a mix-up here somewhere.

    Just a little venting...

    - Merg
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    What is the purpose of the Repeat button when playing music from your iPod? It only repeats the current song. I'm trying to think of a time when I would want the same song to repeat over and over and over again. It's not even that it is for repeating the playing of a playlist as when a playlist is finished playing it automatically starts over again.

    Ugh...

    - Merg
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