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Hyundai Sonata Navigation System

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  • I am not going to say that the honda is not a better car. It is. And it looks better too. It's just not worth the money.

    If you want to spend some more coin get an Acura TL or Infiniti G35. I have owned both and are wonderfull cars. I just can't afford that class of car since the twins were born. :)

    However I would buy either of those before I bought the accord. A loaded Accord is very close in price to a TL.
  • vaterpvaterp Posts: 29
    Small world, I currently own a G35, we are looking to replace my wife's saturn not my car. And we are not looking at that class of cars either because we have had a baby in the meantime too ;)

    I am a little put off by the price of the accord, but we all agree about it being the better car. I suppose I could always look at non nav versions to save some money - I recognize its probably a waste of money, but I'm just an addimated technophile and I know I'll be dissapointed if I dont get one. I have a tomtom but the indash ones just seem so nice with the bigger displays. One thing I really dont like though is the nav dvd player in the trunk, just hanging there. Makes me worry if I actually try to load up the trunk I'm likely to bang that player and cause some damage.

    I know the mature side of me is saying get an accord wo/ nav and you'll do just fine. The sonata's are just such good deals right now , fully loaded, its hard to walk away ;).

    So offtopic, what g35 did you have, and why did you get rid of it? I bought the original 2003 model. Probably got screwed because the car had only been out a month when i bought it - but damn is it a fun drive. I have ~ 65K miles on mine (its about 6 yrs old now) and have no inclination to get rid of it anytime soon. Though I am dissapointed in my average gas mileage - but hey thats probably because i can't stop driving it to hard ;)

    Cheers, -brian
  • vaterpvaterp Posts: 29
    One more thing, its not just the cost to buy the car, all service and parts are more costly on the tl and g35 then they would be on the 'lower class'. Additionally they both want premium which makes them overall more expensive cars besides just purchase price :(. -- Another reason i'm staying away from that class.
  • The G35 was the wife's. It was a 2004 bought in sept 03. We traded it for the 2007 Odyssey I mentioned earlier in Dec 06. We got rid of it for practical reasons. 3 Car seats just wont fit.

    I only got my Sonata a month ago. I traded my 05 FX35 for it... again to save money and gas.

    If you drive a G35 and drive it hard, dont even think about the 4cyl accord or sonata. Even the v6 will disappoint you. The g35 is an animal. I don't know of any v6 that has more punch that the nissan/infinti VQ. Yes its very thirsty for premium. I never got better than 15 mpg in my FX and 18 in the G.

    If you are willing to lease there is a pretty good price on the G right now.

    But the bottom line after all this... I bought an v6 soanata with nav... I dont think you could get more car for $23k.
  • vaterpvaterp Posts: 29
    The last quote I just got from a hyundai dealer for a V4 w/ NAV was for ~ 24K, this with 0% financing. With 'regular' financing they would charge 1K less. I find that rather strange that one would charge two different rates. Kinda defeats the incentive for 0% financing no?

    Anyway i havent really even started to negotiate with the guy yet, but are you talking OTD of 23K for your v6 w/ nav, or before taxes & fess, etc....
  • vaterpvaterp Posts: 29
    BTW, what kind of gas mileage are you averging in your v5 sonata, and what kind of driving do you mostly do?

    I think 23K OTD for a v6 w/ nav would be too good a deal to pass up when the accord dealer is quoting me OTD 28K for a v4 w/ nav.

    I'm surprised in this market that they are even starting off that high. I know you gotta play the game, but i thought they'd start off much lower given we dont need to buy a car - and they are all getting crushed right now.

    thx,
    brian
  • 0% financing is rarely worth it. However paying $1k more to get the 0% is worth it if you can get it for 5 years. 3 years would be close to break even.

    I paid $23k for a V6 limited w/nav. plus sales tax.

    I was being offered the 4 cyl with nav for $21.7k.

    Yes the accord is nicer as in the G and TL.... but you just can't get more for the money the the Sonata.... which is why I have one.
  • Miliage is a bit of a disappointment.... although much better the either of my 2 infiniti's.

    I am getting just of 20 mpg. I drive about 70/30 city/hwy.

    I don't think that Hyundai is starting that high...the sticker on my car was $28.6 he said $24k I paid $23k....Maybe i could have done a little better... but i am happy.
  • phb1phb1 Posts: 1
    I was wondering if any of you have the factory installed or dealer installed Bluetooth and does it work good? I am looking at purchasing a new Sonata shortly. Thanks for any info.
  • I wanted to, but i found out that it is not really integrated to the head unit. It is self contained and replaces the sunglass holder.

    There are better and cheaper aftermarket units.
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    Be advised that the next incarnation of the Sonata Navigation System is supposed to have an integrated Bluetooth and XM-Traffic capability. I don't know if the 2009 Sonata's system will be able to be retrofitted though.

    - Merg
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    Here is a list of issues I've found with the Navigation System. Let me know if you have any additional issues. I'll call up the developer when we get a good complete list and see what can be done.

    QWERTY Keyboard
    Initially Reported: 09/2008
    When setting the keyboard layout to be in QWERTY mode, the keyboard layout reverts to Alphabet mode after changing the System mode (switching components) or when turning the Nav System off and on. The default settings menu will still show the layout selection to be in QWERTY mode even though it displays the keyboard in Alphabet mode.

    iPod Random Issue
    Initially Reported: 10/2008
    When selecting the iPod to play at Random, the feature is turned off if a different mode is selected, the audio system is turned off and on, or the Tuning dial on the radio is used to select a new song. The Random selection should be maintained during any of these changes.

    Address Book Sorting Incorrect
    Initially Reported: 10/2008
    When sorting the Address Book alphabetically and not by date, new addresses are incorrectly sorted when added. New addresses are added to the end of an addressbook instead of alphabetically. To correct the issue, you have to go into the settings and reselect alphabetically.

    System Hang
    Initially Reported: 10/2008
    Had an issue where the Hyundai logo stayed on screen and nothing could clear it. I tried to turning off and on the car and the same thing happened. I hit the Display button and the display settings screen came on. When I hit another button to try to get the iPod screen, I got a Windows pop-up on the screen that told me I had a fatal application error. I selected OK and the system rebooted and started working fine.

    iPod Not Turning Off
    Initially Reported: 09/2008
    When turning off the car, my iPod is not turning off on its own. According to the developer it is supposed to. Also, I found that if I manually turn it off while leaving it connected, it sometimes turns back on a few minutes later even though the vehicle is off. I am unsure if somehow it is receiving power when the car door is opened or not, but something is triggering it to turn back on.

    - Merg
  • I would like the USB Random issue to be included in the list of problems with the Nav Ssytem. You can see the posts I put in this thread about it at post #49 and #53.
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    Sorry. Meant to include it.

    - Merg
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    1. QWERTY Keyboard
    Initially Reported: 09/2008
    When setting the keyboard layout to be in QWERTY mode, the keyboard layout reverts to Alphabet mode after changing the System mode (switching components) or when turning the Nav System off and on. The default settings menu will still show the layout selection to be in QWERTY mode even though it displays the keyboard in Alphabet mode.

    2. iPod Random Issue
    Initially Reported: 10/2008
    When selecting the iPod to play at Random, the feature is turned off if a different mode is selected, the audio system is turned off and on, or the Tuning dial on the radio is used to select a new song. The Random selection should be maintained during any of these changes.

    3. Address Book Sorting Incorrect
    Initially Reported: 10/2008
    When sorting the Address Book alphabetically and not by date, new addresses are incorrectly sorted when added. New addresses are added to the end of an addressbook instead of alphabetically. To correct the issue, you have to go into the settings and reselect alphabetically.

    4. System Hang
    Initially Reported: 10/2008
    Had an issue where the Hyundai logo stayed on screen and nothing could clear it. I tried to turning off and on the car and the same thing happened. I hit the Display button and the display settings screen came on. When I hit another button to try to get the iPod screen, I got a Windows pop-up on the screen that told me I had a fatal application error. I selected OK and the system rebooted and started working fine.

    5. iPod Not Turning Off
    Initially Reported: 09/2008
    When turning off the car, my iPod is not turning off on its own. According to the developer it is supposed to. Also, I found that if I manually turn it off while leaving it connected, it sometimes turns back on a few minutes later even though the vehicle is off. I am unsure if somehow it is receiving power when the car door is opened or not, but something is triggering it to turn back on.

    6. USB Device Random Issue
    Initially Reported: 10/27/2008
    When using a USB drive to play music files, the Random setting works as long as you do not change a song manually. As soon as you change the song using the steering wheel controls or the radio seek buttons, the Random setting turns itself off.

    - Merg
  • One more thing that might need to be added to the list is that I have noticed that when I change the volume via the steering wheel controls sometimes I have found that the volume graph (for lack of a better term) and volume level number comes up and is just blank black boxes. The horizontal bar graph and volume level number (i.e., "5") are not present. Ironically I notice this most around volume level 5 or 6 going up a notch and I am usually listening to USB or AUX. Can anyone else verify that they have seen this so it can be added to the list?
  • themergthemerg Posts: 139
    Haven't noticed that, but I will see if I have the issue with my iPod connected. If it can be confirmed, I'll add it to the list.

    - Merg
  • i360i360 Posts: 74
    Hey, a map update is finally available for our navigation systems (2009 Sonata).
    Although it asks for a device ID, whats that?

    https://www.mapnsoft.com/search/search.asp
  • i360i360 Posts: 74
    Whats interesting is if you log into the XM radio website under your navigation "radio ID" it states that Nav Traffic is available for your radio. Perhaps this is coinciding with the new release of a North American map I posted above from M&Soft.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    Supposedly there were plans to have XM Navtraffic on the 09 Sonata Nav system. This was to come at a later date.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    The update was taken down from their site. It's actually supposed to come out in January.
  • My NAV screen flickers when I first start the vehicle. It can also be slow to come to full screen power. It does not happen all the time. Outside temp does not make a difference. Is this normal?
  • Tonight, the nav system in my 2009 Sonata decided it would exhibit the issues noted elsewhere in this thread, namely the missing icons, corrupt start-up screen, etc. I know there's a post in this thread about the navigation TSB, and I swear I remember seeing it as well on the Hyundai service site (hmaservice.com). For the life of me, I cannot find that TSB listed on their site anymore.

    Perhaps I'm just being blind, but I simply do not see it anywhere anymore. Does that mean it isn't valid anymore? Can I still expect to have the dealer apply the update to solve the problem, or will they also claim it does not exist and opt to do something else like try to replace the entire system?
  • vaterpvaterp Posts: 29
    Hey guys, I have a new 09 v4 sonata w/ nav. I've got about 800 miles on the car right now and this morning I got hit with the nav freeze issue.

    is there a known fix / upgrade or something that takes care of this? I tried turning the car on / off a couple times and it was always frozen - no nav functions at all, and just the hyundai logo stuck on the screen.

    anyway, i have a service appt for tomorrow, is there something specific i should be asking for?

    thanks -brian
  • vaterpvaterp Posts: 29
    Hey guys, I restarted my car on the way home from work and the screen came up fine. For those of you that are familiar with this issue --- is there anything to fix yet, or does this just 'happen' sometimes? I dont want to drive all the way to the dealer tomorrow if there is nothing they are going to change.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    On a side note, the little i've used the nav so far, it seems to make really really really poor choices re/ routing. I've got a 200$ dollar tomtom that seems to give far superior routing advice. Any of you guys agree? Are there any sw fixes that address this issue? I'm continually baffled at how terrible some of it's suggestions are.

    Thanks -brian
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Posts: 1,601
    Your experience with the Tom Tom and the price differential are reasons I'd not consider NAV as an option on a car. Plus, your Tom Tom can be taken with you if you rent a car.

    Personallly, I'd prefer a Garmin to a Tom Tom but that's just a matter for each person to determine.
  • I had the same problem with my NAV system. The ICONs were lost but came back the next time I drove the car --- for one time. I than took it to the dealer who replaced the radio. I have a feeling that this is probably a hardware problem and not software. I would bet that a video chip either went bad because of overheating or partially popped out of it's socket. We will probably never know as I suspect the unit is sealed (and under warranty).

    On your other point I do think the Gamin software is superior to the NAVs routing software. I do like the ability of adding POIs which is lacking this the built-in unit. I do miss having the red light camera file. On the other hand it was a real pain in the a%$ to keep hiding the removable unit in my last car.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    The map update will come out on 1.31.09. It will be on a DVD that updates the flash chip. The 09 Sonata uses a flash chip to store the maps. As usual www.mapnsoft.com will sell the update for $200.
  • Any word on what this map update includes? Is it just road updates? Are there any additions to the map software with regards to feature enhancements or additions?
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    Just updates to the maps and it may enable XM NavTraffic that has been rumored for this system. Software updates are done by the dealer. Another software update is rumored.
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