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  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    ...makes shopping a lot more fun!
  • gperrgperr Member Posts: 163
    Car_man,

    Can you please give me the August Res & MF for Acura MDX Base, non-nav, for 36 & 39 months, 12K/year. Thanks

    Gregg
  • hartthartt Member Posts: 79
    Hi Car_man.
    Just checking back to see if you had a chance to look at Toyota's numbers for August.
    Looking for 36 month 15K/year on a Sport Edition V6. Also, could you please provide the same for a Highlander with 4X4 and V6? I am in the Northern Kentucky/Cincinnati area.
    Thanks for your help.
  • aja10aja10 Member Posts: 8
    Hi Car_man,

    I was hoping you could help me out with a question. I recently lease a 2003 A4 1.8t Quattro for 42m and 12k a year. I took delivery on July 28th about a month before my old lease expired. I leased a month early because in my area there were not many 03’s left especially with the color (ming blue) and options I wanted and because several dealers said if I waited for an exact 04 model I would pay much more on the same lease.

    I assume the dealers meant they were trying to clear out the 03’s before the 04’s came in with good lease deals. My question is were these dealers telling the truth and do you know what the money factor and residual would be in August for a 2004 A4 1.8t Quattro based on a 42m and 12k lease. I live in N.J.

    For my lease the money factor is .0005 with a 57% residual. The price of the car was $29,872. My payment is $350 a month including tax. I only paid upfront for 1st month, bank fee and motor vehicles. Does this sound like a good deal?

    Thanks for your help. Sorry for the long question.

    Aja10
  • howachowac Member Posts: 52
    Hi Car_man,

    Thanks for the reply regarding the Mazda RX-8. I'll check back with you some time next week.
  • tbwilltbwill Member Posts: 4
    Car_Man:

    Thanks for the info on the A4 lease. However, I decided on the Audi allroad and picked one up on August 5 using the info you gave me in an earlier post. Thank for all your info and help. My wife and I just returned from spending our 25th anniversary in Yosemite, driving the new allroad! Thanks again.

    Tom
  • liannellliannell Member Posts: 47
    Hi Car_man, please provide money factors and residuals for the 2003 BMW 325i and Audi A4 3.0. I'd like quotes for both 24 mo & 36 mo at 15k mi/yr in both cases. I know the BMW info will only be valid until 9/2, when does the Audi stuff expire? Also, when do the 2004 models of these 2 cars become available?

    Thanks!
  • abmillertababmillertab Member Posts: 1
    Hey Car Man,
    My lease on my 2000 Volks Passat is due up in Oct. I have a scrape from the front panel along the whole length of the car. Should I go to a body shop and have it fixed, or will Volkswagon try and work with me in hopes that I will be a return customer.
    Thanks for your help!
  • g17g17 Member Posts: 45
    Well Car_man you were fantastic helping me out with my Mercedes lease, now I need some help for the wifes new car! She's looking for a '04 Grand Cherokee. Now I know they have a $3000 lease incentive until 9/2. The sticker on the car she picked out is 30,220. It has the convenience pkg, fog lts, mats, cargo cover, & upgraded tires. Can you work the MF, res. and sample payments for 36 mo. and 15K mi. Also if you can compute it, how about a 20k mi./yr. Assume $0 down except acquis. docs, 1st mo. etc....Thanks again!!!
  • rttuckerrttucker Member Posts: 10
    Car_man,

    I appreciated your help with my research on the Saab 9-5 wagon. Now, I need some assistance on the 2003 Honda EX/V6 with navigation.

    What are the incentives that Honda is providing to this car, especially with the '04s due out in a couple of months? I understand their financing incentive (2.9%/60 months); are their additional cash incentives? Thanks, once again.

    Best Regards,
    Ryan
  • jas413jas413 Member Posts: 13
    Hi Car Man. Please provide me with the money factors & residual values for the above vehicles on a three year lease with 15,000 and 18,000 miles per year . The ES is with the premier package and the CTS is with an automatic & luxury package. Are you aware of any dealer incentives or programs by Lexus to move the remaining 03's. Thanks for your assistance!
  • goose1207goose1207 Member Posts: 113
    There are 2 dealers here in Boston that are advertising 2003 Jetta GL lease rates of $119/mo and $129/mo respectively. 24 mos @ 20k miles total and $2k down. The MSRP on the car is $17,675 including destination and one of the dealers is showing a discounted MSRP of $13,795. This seems like a good deal to me - comments? I'd like to know what residual & $ factor they are using.

    I realize this is the base model w/ 5 spd and this is all we need right now. It's just going to be a commutter car to the train station (7 miles R/T 5 days/wk) so we probably won't accumulate any addt'l miles.

    Also, are most dealers willing to roll the $2k down payment (less 1st mo payment & sec. dep of course) into the lease payments? Any idea on what the charge per addt'l mile would be?
  • jeffschujeffschu Member Posts: 48
    Hello,

    Could you provide to me the lease numbers for a 2003 Infiniti G35 sedan (residual, money factor, etc.) 12K per year and would like to see 36 months and 48 months. I live in the Charlotte, NC area. Thanks, Jeff
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    I had the same sort of deal with my 2002 GL. I only paid out $1,000-1,500 (which included). My lease payment is $187.00 per month which includes tax. I think my $ per mile over the alloted amount is about $.12...I THINK.
  • c182skylanec182skylane Member Posts: 64
    Car_Man:

    Is the lease special still running with the 2003 Acura TL Type-S (no nav)? Can you tell me the residual value % based on 36 and 39 months using 15K miles per year? I've read that MF=0.00092 or 0.00102 with no security deposit.

    Thank you.
  • c182skylanec182skylane Member Posts: 64
    Car_Man:

    I'm also interested in the CL-S with 6-speed manual transmission. Right now, Acura is offering $1250 dealer cash. Do the same MF and residual %'s apply to this car too? If not, what MF and residual can I expect on a 36/39/48 month lease from AHFC.

    Thanks a million.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hey Gregg. Here is the information that you are looking for. If you were to lease a 2003 Acura MDX without Navigation through American Honda Finance Corp. this month for 3 years with 12,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00205 and 60%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 39 month lease of this vehicle should be .00205 and 56%, respectively.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    I have seen the information that you are looking for, hartt. Though it is possible that Toyota is providing lease support on a few 4Runner trim levels in certain regions. I have not personally seen any evidence that Toyota is providing supported lease money factors on this model. If this is the case, and you were to lease a 2003 4Runner Sport Edition 4WD through Toyota Financial Services for 3 years with 15,000 miles per, you would have to use its base standard lease money factor and residual value of .00220 and 60%, respectively.

    On the other hand, I have seen special lease money factor from Toyota on the 2003 Highlander. I do not know whether Toyota is providing lease support on this truck in its Cincinnati region, but if so then this truck's factor is probably in the area of .00140 or so. If not, then its money factor would be exactly the same as the unsupported factor that I just mentioned for the 4Runner. The Toyota Financial Services' 3 year, 15,000 miles per residual value for a 2003 Toyota Highlander Non-Limited 4WD is currently 57%.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi Aja10. I think that you were wise to lease a 2003 A4 rather than a 2004 model at this point. Not only will dealers be much more willing to deal on '03s right now, but Audi's current lease money factors on 2003s are much lower than its factors on 2004s. The base money factor for a 2004 A4 leased through Audi Financial Services at this time would be .00155, which is much higher than the one that you were able to use to lease your car. I think that you did just fine. Enjoy your new car :).

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Thanks for checking back with me, howac. I wish that I had better news for you, but none of the Mazda dealers that I know seem to have any idea what Mazda's exact lease program is like on the 2004 RX8. According to what I have heard, Mazda is not providing any sort of lease support on it and most dealers are running its leases through independent banks. Sorry that I could not be of more help.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Congratulations on the new car, Tom. I see that you are making good use of it already :). Thanks for taking the time to let me know how everything turned out. Enjoy!

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hello liannell. Here is the information that you are looking for. If you were to lease a 2003 BMW 325i through BMW Financial Services for 2 years with 15,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00150 and 65%, respectively. This car's 3 year factor would be exactly the same, but its residual value would fall to 57%.

    If you were to lease a 2003 Audi A4 3.0L Sedan with quattro through Audi Financial Services this month in North Carolina for 2 years with 15,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00050 and 62%, respectively. This car's 3 year, 15k numbers should be .00050 and 53%, respectively. This program is good through September 3rd.

    As far as the 2004 model year versions of these cars go, Audi has already published a lease program for the '04 A4, but I have only seen 2004 lease numbers for BMW's coupes and convertibles.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hey abmillertab. It is difficult for me to say whether or not you will get charged for excess wear and tear without actually seeing your car. Plus, I really don't know how strict VW Credit is when evaluating vehicles at lease-end. Most banks will provide consumers with a set of guidelines that they use to determine if a vehicle has excess wear and tear, if requested. You should place a call to VW Credit, if that is the bank that you are leasing your Passat through, to see if they can provide you with more information on their specific policy. If you feel as though you will get charged, you may want to consider having your car repaired prior to returning it.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi again g17. Let's take a look at the information that you need for your wife's new truck. You are correct, DaimlerChrysler is providing $3,000 lease cash on the 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee through September 2nd. In order for me to give you an idea of what this vehicle's current lease money factors and residual values are like, I need to know the exact trim level that you want to get, i.e. a Laredo 2WD, a Limited 4WD, etc... Also. If you would like me to calculate a sample payment for you, I need you to provide me with this model's full MSRP and selling price. Once I have this information I will be glad to help you out. Talk to you soon.

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  • pen101pen101 Member Posts: 238
    I have same question as post #7579 regarding G35 sedan, but I live in CA. Also is the coupe residuals and MF any different? Thank you.
  • jmcclenahanjmcclenahan Member Posts: 15
    Hi Car Man,

    Can you tell me the current residual and money factor for a 39 month lease and a 42 month lease (both with 12k miles a year) on a 2004 A6 3.0 Quattro in CT (doing papers now for delivery in Sept)?

    thanks - this is great help!
  • max63max63 Member Posts: 76
    Just least an XC90 2.5FWD using US Bank. Paid MSRP (Which Hurt), $42,220. MF .00179 and a 49% Residual, 48 months and 15k per year ($570/month-pre-tax payment/Total Drive off $978-First payment, tax,reg.). Carman, I did just notice $395 Termination Fee (If I dont purchase the vehicle) Is that a typical fee or is that a US Bank/dealer charge. Also, is there sales tax on capitalized cost reduction?? Thanks for the time!
  • g17g17 Member Posts: 45
    I should have known better than to leave out those numbers....anyways...here goes. we are looking at a '04 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4WD, equipped the way we want, it has a MSRP of 31,125. If I get the edmunds.com price of 29,180 what will the $0 down be around for 15K mi and 20K mi for 36 months, I'm in NJ so the tax is 6%? Also, the $3000 incentive would be taken off the 29,180 right? if i missed something let me know...thanks again...
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hello Ryan. You're welcome for the help with the Saab. As far as the 2003 Honda Accord goes, I see that you are already aware of the 2.9% financing offer. I do not believe that Honda is providing any other support on this car, not even special lease money factors. I suppose that it is possible that Honda will provide some sort of cash support on its remaining Accords down the road, like it has on Civics now, but I am not aware of any cash on this model yet.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Greetings jas413. If you were to lease a 2003 Lexus ES300 through Lexus Financial Services this month for 3 years with 15,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00120 and 51%, respectively. LFS does not publish residual values for vehicles leased with more than 15,000 miles per year. If you want to lease this model with 18,000 miles per, you will probably have to purchase additional miles on a per-mile basis. Lexus is providing dealers with $750 dealer cash to help them unload their remaining '03 ES 300s. However, this cash can not be used in conjunction with this car's special financing or lease programs.

    As far as the 2004 Cadillac CTS goes, if you were to lease one through General Motors Acceptance Corp. this month for 3 years with 15,000 miles per year, its base lease rate and residual value should be 4.95% and 47%, respectively. This lease rate can be converted into an approximate lease money factor by dividing it by 2400. Again, to the best of my knowledge, GMAC does not publish 18k residual values and additional miles will have to be purchased on a per-mile basis.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi goose1207. Right now Volkswagen Credit's 2 year lease money factor on the 2003 Jetta GL Sedan is .00165. This is equivalent to an interest rate of slightly less than 4%. The deals that you mentioned look reasonable to me, but they are difficult to evaluate without knowing the capitalized costs of these cars. Without these numbers, it is difficult to tell how much money these dealers are charging for the advertised vehicles. Also, in my opinion $2,000 is way too much money to put down on a lease. Every vehicle can be leased without putting any money down and it is usually to consumers' advantage to do so for two main reasons. The first is that if your vehicle is stolen and never recovered or totaled in an accident during your lease term, your insurance company pays off the bank that you are leasing it through and your down payment essentially disappears. The second main reason is that down payments on leases do nothing to lower vehicles' lease-end purchase prices. So if you were to put $2,000 down on these Jettas or no money down at all, their lease-end purchase prices would be exactly the same. Another thing that I noticed about these advertised payments is that they are based on only 10,000 miles per year. If you end up driving more than this, you could rack up significant excess mileage charges that you would have to pay at the end of your term if you opt not to buy your leased Jetta. You can easily lease this model with 12,000 or 15,000 miles per year, but the monthly payment will increase a little if you do.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hey Jeff. Here is the info that you're looking for. If you were to lease a 2003 Infiniti G35 Sedan through Infiniti Financial Services this month for 3 years with 12,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00156 and 57%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 4 year lease of this car should be .00147 and 46%, respectively.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    C182skylane, yes Acura is still providing special lease money factors on the 2003 TL. The factors that you mentioned are right on the money. This car's 36 and 39 month 15,000 miles per residual values are 56% and 52%, respectively.

    Right now Acura is not providing any sort of lease support on the 2003 CL. It does have $1,250 dealer cash on it though that may be used to reduce this car's capitalized cost, as you already seem to be aware. American Honda Finance Corp.'s current 36 month 15,000 miles per year base money factor and residual value for this car should be .00205 and 50%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 39 month lease should be .00205 and 47%. The 48 month numbers should be .00190 and 42%.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Pen101, the numbers for a 2003 Infiniti G35 Sedan lease in California should be exactly the same as the ones that I just posted in message #7598. However, the Coupe's lease program is different. If you were to lease a 2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe through Infiniti Financial Services this month for 3 years with 12,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00200 and 55%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 4 year lease should be .00200 and 49%.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    I'm glad that you find this discussion so helpful, jmcclenahan. If you were to lease a 2004 Audi A6 3.0L Sedan with quattro through Audi Financial Services this month for 39 months with 12,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00160 and 55%, respectively. I have not seen this model's 42 month numbers, but I suspect that its 42 month money factor would be exactly the same. This lease program is only scheduled to run through September 3rd. It is entirely possible that Audi's lease program on this model will be different after that date.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Thanks for sharing the details of your recent XC90 lease with everyone, max63. I am not surprised that your dealer ran your lease on this model through a bank other than Volvo Finance. Most dealers are doing so because Volvo is not currently providing any sort of lease support on this popular model. Lease disposition, or lease termination fees, are very common in the industry. Not all banks charge them, but many do, so this fee really is not that big a deal. How tax is calculated on leased vehicles varies from state to state, so unfortunately I can not shed any more light on what your tax should have been on this model.

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    No problem, g17. Thanks for the additional information. If you were to lease a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4WD through Chrysler Financial in New Jersey this month for 3 years with 15,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00100 and 44%, respectively. Chrysler Financial does not publish residual values for leases with more than 15,000 miles per year, so if you need more than 15k miles you likely will have to purchase additional miles on a per-mile basis. It is usually much less expensive to do so at lease signing than at lease-end, so if you are positive that you will need the miles it is best to purchase them in advance. Using the aforementioned numbers, here is a sample lease payment on the truck that you are interested in. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4WD with an MSRP of $31,125 and a capitalized cost of $26,180 ($29,180 - $3,000 lease cash) through Chrysler Financial this month for 3 years with 15,000 miles per, its zero down, pre-tax monthly lease payment should be right around $387.

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  • goose1207goose1207 Member Posts: 113
    Carman:

    Thanks for the info. Using the money factor that you provided, I calculated a 54% residual to get to the $129 dlr advertised payment. If I put 0 down, my lease payment would be $216/mo with everything else being equal. At a discounted out-the-door price of $13,795 , wouldn't it make more sense to just buy the car w/ $2k down and finance the remaining $11,795 @ 1.9% (VW credit current incentive) for 60 mos @ $206/mo?
  • aja10aja10 Member Posts: 8
    Just wanted to say Thanks for your reply regarding my 03' vs 04'Audi A4 lease question.
    You provide a great service, keep up the good work.

    Thanks,

    aja10
  • c182skylanec182skylane Member Posts: 64
    Thanks for your helo Car_Man:

    Okay, maybe the Acuras are too expensive. But, can you tell me about the MF and Residual %'s for the following assuming 15k miles per year (AHFC):

    EX-V6 Sedan with Nav, 48 months
    EX-V6 Sedan without Nav, 48 months

    EX-V6 Coupe - 6 speed, without Nav, 48 months

    I'm assuming that there are not any attractive MFs and residuals for 36/39 month leases.

    thanks again...
  • howachowac Member Posts: 52
    Hi Car_man,

    Just wanted to check whether you've had a chance to find the lease info (MF and RV) on the Mazda RX-8. We're interested in a 6MT with the Grand Touring package. Term is for 36 months and 12k miles per year. We're in Northern California. Thanks!
  • jmcclenahanjmcclenahan Member Posts: 15
    In re: to your response:

    First of all - THANKS.

    Secondly, when you say the lease program runs until Sept 3, does that mean i have to take delivery by then?
  • liannellliannell Member Posts: 47
    Thanks for the info, Car_man, but I have one follow-up. You quoted residuals for the Audi A4 3.0L Quattro, but I just want the Front Wheel Drive version. Can you give me the residual on that model (2 yrs and 3 yrs at 15k miles/yr)? I assume the Money Factor doesn't change.

    Thanks again!
    LianneLL
  • steven39steven39 Member Posts: 636
    hi carman i would like to know do you get a better deal with a lease payment on a car that holds its value pretty well like a honda for example, or on a car that does not hold its value so well like the elantra gt that iam considering. how much does resale value factor in when computing a lease payment. thanx steve
  • jratcliffejratcliffe Member Posts: 233
    Steven39, the monthly payment on a lease is basically driven by three things:

    1. The selling price of the car at the start of the lease (often referred to as the capital cost) - the lower this price, the lower the lease payment
    2. The value of the car at the end of the lease (referred to as the residual, and usually expressed as a percentage of MSRP, _not_ the selling price) - the higher the residual, the lower the lease payment
    3. The interest charged on the money you're essentially borrowing to lease the car, usually expressed as a "money factor"

    In terms of your question, what matters is the _difference_ between 1 and 2. In the case of a Honda, #2 tends to be quite high, since Hondas hold their value well. This also means that #1 is often quite high. For a Hyundai, #2 is VERY low (they're notorious for rapid depreciation), so unless #1 is low as well, #1 minus #2 is going to be a large number, and that'll drive up your lease payment. Bottom line, Hyundais generally don't make good lease cars, because of the lousy expected resale values.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    You're welcome, goose1207. VW's special financing rate on this car is indeed more attractive than its lease money factors. If I was in the market for this Jetta, I personally would probably finance it at 1.9% for 60 months, taking advantage of the lowest possible interest rate.

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    You're very welcome, aja10. Thanks for the thanks :).

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    No problem, c182skylane. To be honest with you, there really is not that much difference between the V6 Accord and many Acuras anyhow. Honda is not providing any sort of lease support on the 2003 Accord right now. So if you were to lease one through its captive finance company, you would have to use its standard lease program. In this case though, this is not actually that bad a thing because Honda's standard program is fairly attractive. Here is the new information that you are looking for. If you were to lease a 2003 Honda Accord EX V6 without Navigation (either manual or auto) through American Honda Finance Corp. this month for 4 years with 15,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00200 and 49%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2003 Accord EX-L with Navigation would have the exact same money factor, but the residual value would drop to 47%.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hey howac. Unfortunately, Mazda did not publish a lease program the 2004 RX8 with its initial August incentives. I have tried to find out what the lease program for this car is like, but have not had much success because apparently Mazda is not providing any sort of support on it and many dealers are using outside lending institutions to lease it. There is a good chance that I will not be able to find out the specifics of this car's program until Mazda publishes its new incentives on September 3rd. Sorry that I could not be of more help.

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    You're welcome, jmcclenahan. Most manufacturers have some sort of program that allows consumers to lock in a month's lease program for a month or two, especially if they have ordered a vehicle. I am not sure if Audi does this, but your dealer should know. To be honest with you though, Audi is not really providing much lease support on '04 models yet. There is a good chance that its September lease program will actually be better than its current program, so I wouldn't worry too much it.

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