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2010 Ford Taurus



  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,062
    So which part of the toaster did they not like? Was it the heat setting or did the toast not pop up high enough? :P
  • bruneau1bruneau1 Posts: 468
    Go back to Consumer's report on the Taurus and count up the number of positive comments and then the negatives. Something not quite right with the evaluation. i guess they were not happy about the reduced rear seat area (which is still very good) and the other good stuff didn't matter too much.. And of course, the frumpy look of the Avalon and its old dash with all its plastic aluminum didn't count either. I drove the Lacrosse and knocked my knee twice getting out. The awd Lacrosse is under-powered. The Azera bangs over bumps and its seats don't adjust enough. But then, each to his own taste. I go out and drive them all; then i make my decision. My priorities are not necessarily those of CR which places no value on looks.
  • berriberri Posts: 9,320
    The new Taurus is a car I still can't make my mind up on. I think it's a good idea to look at things like CR or JDP on reliability, but then you're right - drive your finalists and make up your own mind.
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    Yes, it is a definite improvement. However, I wish it either had trimmer overhangs, a longer wheelbase, or (when you subtract the trunk) more interior space than many mid-size cars (Accord, Sonata, Lacrosse). They did a great job of revising it, but who ever signed off on the proportions of the 2005 Five Hundred consigned Ford to have to work with oddly proportioned architecture for years to come. Bottom line, it is could have been so much better.
  • berriberri Posts: 9,320
    I think they may have been limited by some of the Volvo parameters the car is based on?
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    No, I don't think so. The equivalent Volvos aren't nearly as tall, and let's remember that the Flex (with front overhang still too long) has something like a 117" wheelbase. It would not have been difficult to lengthen the 500 wheelbase while keeping the length more or less the same.
  • alman08alman08 Posts: 282
    OK... just wrote Ford another letter concerning the interior of the new Taurus. It's a very nice car and now, however, what's going on with that cheaply painted plastic on the console? Did they buy that from the same supplier which make plastic (and I meant ugly plastic) painted interior door panel for the Cameros?
    #@%#!&^#! :mad:
  • Alman08, if you actually own the vehicle, you should have several opportunities to provide feedback. Most manufactures (Ford included) send surveys after a month and 3- or 6- months, I cant remember which. At the same time, you have JD Powers and Consumer Reports soliciting information from owners.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,062
    What exactly do you expect them to say about it? And if it was that terrible - why did you buy it?

    I don't understand people that buy vehicles and then complain about things that they clearly knew or could have know before they purchased.

    Ford knows exactly what they did with the console - it was a conscious decision. It could be better but I don't think it's that bad, either.
  • bruneau1bruneau1 Posts: 468
    You are exaggerating.
  • jlcjlc Posts: 30
    Hey guys, I have about 4k miles on the car. About 1.6k city and 2.4k hyw.(75mph)
    average 26mph todate. Love the car, the ride is quiet and comfortable. Love the massaging seats, sync, blis, heated front & rear seats, rain sencing wipers etc. I did a lot of research and found this car to be a winner. I was considering the LaCrosse but the A & C pillars were a sight problem. I would recommend it to anyone.

  • alman08alman08 Posts: 282
    nope... I did not say I bought the vehicle. :shades:
    Have yet to hear back from Ford, but usually it'd take about a week, and Ford is very good at wanting to hear from the public.
    I too don't understand people that buy cars and then complain about things that would bother them to begin with. :surprise:
    And I also don't understand why people assume too much from reading a clear message. :P
  • alman08alman08 Posts: 282
    I don't think I am, and I know you like yours very much. However, if Ford is wanting to move up market with this Taurus, they'll have to pay extra attention to details like that. Let's leave cheaply made American cars to GM to handle now (and they're catching up too)
  • alman08alman08 Posts: 282
    just go to Ford website and you can contact Ford anytime if you have concerns about their company, vehicles, and the website, and you don't even need to own a Ford. (and I do own one)
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,062
    A - based on other owner and media reviews I think you're exaggerating. If you want to see a cheap plastic console go find a Lincoln LS.

    B - I don't understand why someone who doesn't own the vehicle would take the time to write to Ford to complain about something they don't like. Especially a personal preference issue.
  • alman08alman08 Posts: 282
    Used to respect your opinion on Ford's products, akirby, however, from reading your posts like these just made me think that you're no more than just a Ford fan who cannot acept constructive criticism. One good thing about Ford (the current Ford) is that they do want to hear criticism, good or bad. Many personal preference issue will reflect in model year facelift, and that's part of the reason why a good company would want to hear what customers have to say about their products. And it seems to me that you're on this board just constantly trying to defend Ford, doesn't matter if it's good or bad.
    My letter to Ford was all based on my opinion and I did not have to care what other media or reviews have to say about any product.
    I will end this discussion now since I'm not here to argue will anyone. I have nothing to gain from it.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,062
    I wasn't defending Ford - I was just saying that they know they have a black plastic console (as opposed to wood or aluminum) and I don't think Ford is interested in every customer's personal opinion, especially when it doesn't match the majority of other reviewers' opinion.

    But if it makes you feel better, go for it.
  • Karen_SKaren_S Posts: 5,095
    New Taurus owners, please post your thoughts on the head restraints here.

    New Head Restraints – Safety, Torture, or Both?
  • alman08alman08 Posts: 282
    although I said that I was going to end the discussion, I would like to add this...
    Exactly my point...Ford is better off using black plastic on the console instead of that painted color plastic (glossy color paint to fake alum?... come on, man!)
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,062
    Maybe Kuzack will have the product designers call you and get your signoff on all future center console designs........
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,437
    was that sarcasm? :P
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,062
    Me? Sarcasm? Nah........ :blush:
  • 3.5L EcoBoost Turbocharged DOHC V-6 (Ford Taurus SHO) also found in several other FoMoCo products including the Ford Flex.

    Congratulations Ford!
  • podpod Posts: 176
    I recently read in a comparo that the Accura side radar system sets off radar detectors in neighboring cars. Does anyone know whether this is true of the BLIS system?
  • Assuming the BLIS system in the Taurus is the same as Volvo uses it is all done with cameras not radar so no won't set off detectors.
  • podpod Posts: 176
    An official site confirms that it is radar based as are the adaptive cruise control and the early collision warning system. So there are radar beams all over the car: front and side. It is a question of what band the system uses and whether it is the same band as the common radar guns that the police and detectors use.

    BLISTM (Blind Spot Information System) with Cross Traffic Alert can help provide extra confidence to drivers in parking lots by alerting drivers sooner of nearby traffic while backing out. It uses two multiple beam radar modules, which are packaged in the rear quarter panels. The radar detects moving objects within a 65-foot range from either side of the vehicle. The radar identifies when a vehicle enters the defined blind spot zone and illuminates an indicator light on the corresponding side-view mirror providing a warning that a vehicle is approaching. An audible alert is sounded as well.
  • podpod Posts: 176
    I was very surprised when using the Edmunds pricing algorithm, a 2010 BMW 328i can be had for $32,385. This includes none of the very expensive option packages (glad to have the option of a "stripped down" car). The price, however, puts the 328i at roughly $1200 more than the "stripped" (i.e. no options) 2010 Limited (non-AWD, non-SHO) Taurus. There is a $1000 "special discount" on the Limited which expires 1/4/10 which makes the difference $2200 at present.
    I am quite surprised that the prices are so close. Some will say "apples and oranges" but I would say "Cortland vs. McIntosh". I would go for the BMW were I ready to buy a sedan at this time. Are others surprised?
    The price "creep" on the Taurus over the past few years is significant. The SHO is an all new ballgame but the other Taurus models have become slowly more expensive primarily due to the inclusion of what were once "options" as standard equipment among other improvements. The basic powertrain and engine haven't changed very much for two years or so.
    The principal reservation about all BMW 3 series is the low profile (run flat) tires which are noisy and cause a very firm ride. The four year free maintenance program is a nice offset however.
    Off topic, I admit, but fodder for discusssion as this forum slows down.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Good luck finding a stripped-down 328. They're located next to the pot of gold at the end of any rainbow.
  • You will never be able to find a base 3 series. I don't even think most dealers would let you order one without a large non-refundable deposit. They don't want to be stuck with an albatross like that on the lot if you back out.

    Then you have RWD, on RFTs no less which are horrible in the snow, vs FWD so if you are in a snow state you have to get snow tires for the BMW. You might be able to make it without snows on the Taurus as long as you only get moderate snow fall.

    Then there is of course the fact that the Taurus is over a foot longer and three inches wider. Its compact vs full size is it any wonder that their pricing is similar but luxury brand vs non-luxury brand. The top or near top of the line non-luxury large car has always bumped into the pricing of a luxury compact or mid-sized car.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,062
    The closest comparison to a 328i would be a Fusion Sport, not a Taurus. Apples and oranges indeed.
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