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It clicked over "VIOLATION" all by itself & you paid the ticket even when you didn't do the parking.
The slow driver in the far left lane can create relentless calls to actual LEOs about him being a suspected drunk, or can meet the harsh justice of someone who doesn't care about damaging their vehicle to prove a point. I'll wager most "victims" of road rage incidents are the ones who have hypocritically deemed themselves to be speed deputies, and are not the speeders themselves...
I wouldn't call him a "thug". "Target" would be more accurate.
Oh well, the odds of being brake checked or cut off must be higher anyway...and one won't be reaching for the musket when trying not to crash...
Which assumes that keeping right is less important that legal maximum speed, which is debatable. We already have one speed-[non-permissible content removed] who admits to stretching the rules when driving to Texas.
Should alll the complainers of photo radar petition him to look into photo radar used on US highways and interstates? Make your case.
On car matters, which Edmunds is mainly concerned with, US AG nominee Eric Holder does have impeccable good jugement in cars. MSNBC showed him geting into a dark blue 2004 Acura TL apparently in front of his home. But, that is not enough to offset his incredibly bad judgement in involvemenet in pardon of terrorists and pardon of Marc Rich.
Enforcement of this law would be easy revenue for any police authority. :P $200 fine first infraction, $500 subsequent infraction.
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If you were paying attention, you saw my post where I said even when I am going 5-7 mph over the limit, there are Hundreds of people who pass me going FAR faster than I am.
Driving any slower would make me a "slow vehicle hazard" which you speed demons seem to hate so much.
I stay beneath speed of the flow of traffic but fast enough to remain safe.
But you know what? If I got stopped and ticketed for going 87 in an 80 zone, I would pay it and SHADDUPA MY FACE about the fact that enforcement was taking place.
Which is what the enemies of Photo Radar CANNOT or WILL NOT seem to do. You get caught breaking the law, be a man/woman and pay your fine like a grownup instead of complaining about HOW you were caught.
motor-vehicle accidents increased by 16 percent in the same time period, and fatal collisions in the Queen Creek area doubled from three to six.
inal County supervisors Wednesday bid goodbye to photo enforcement.
Their vote to terminate their contract with Redflex, the company that operates the cameras, came at the recommendation of the county's top law-enforcement official, new Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu.
"I'm against photo speed enforcement completely," Babeu said, walking the three-member panel through a detailed PowerPoint presentation. "Here in Pinal, it's failed miserably."
Babeu said speed cameras created dangerous road conditions and offered little financial benefit for the county. He plans to boost traffic enforcement through additional manpower.
Although Pinal County's contract with Redflex wasn't set to expire until Feb. 20, two mobile speed cameras have not been in operation on Pinal roads since Babeu took office Jan. 1.
The speed vans had been roadside in some of Pinal's most populous areas, including Apache Junction, Gold Canyon and unincorporated areas near Queen Creek, since mid-2007.
The county's program is separate from the one operated by the Arizona Department of Public Safety on freeways statewide.
The supervisors two weeks ago had tabled a vote on the Redflex contract because they wanted Babeu to prepare a report on camera enforcement in Pinal, including the financial impact on the county.
He reported Wednesday that the two cameras were activated 11,416 times from September 2007 through last month. Of those activations, 7,290 resulted in citations, but only 3,711 were paid.
Babeu said most of the total $134,199.43 in fines and fees from the paid citations covered administrative and operational costs, leaving the county with a net profit of $12,391.58 that Babeu dismissed as paltry.
Car matters with bitter neocon babble injected...it never fails
At least it's not a hideous new TL! I bet he's not a LLC either...
Looks like the well connected pseudo-capitalists were the only ones who found benefit...
Write your US Representatives and ask for provision to stimulate more providers of photo radar.
Not to mention crime prevention. Some people (the least evil criminals) might take a second thought to doing something if they knew the "EYE IN THE SKY" was watching.
See how well the Orwellian surveillance grid is working in the UK...
Fewer police? Can you fathom how many will have to be employed to monitor these cameras 24/7?
'Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither' - Benjamin Franklin (paraphrased)
But cameras in certain areas can be invaluable.
I have watched a lot of real-time crime shows, and a TON of bad guys have gotten caught with cameras when without them it might have been a 50-50 shot at catching them, if that much.
An effort to ban photo speed enforcement on Arizona highways advanced Thursday when lawmakers passed a bill out of committee.
The House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee voted 5-2 to recommend approval of House Bill 2106, which would force the removal of the cameras now installed on Interstate 10, Loop 101 and other highways.
“This was done in the name of revenue,” said Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Gilbert, who voted for the ban. “It is a speed tax, and it is being done to fund social programs.”
Ariz. House panel OKs ban on highway speed cameras
The Navigation craze can be banned as a distraction as well. Focus on driving. :mad:
Photo Radar is not one of them though, IMHO. If you are paying attention to the road and your vehicle and how fast you should be going, then Photo radar zones should not be a distraction to you.
They are not a distraction to me at all. Laughing at all the speeders who pass me is a bigger distraction for me.
Seem's to me the answer is obvious yet I haven't heard anyone talk about banning drive-thrus.
Just some "food" for thought.
But taking a bite of a burger is not as "attention-stealing" as talking on a cell phone.
Most people who drive and eat usually eat with one hand and drive with the other.
And with the miniature size of the "Big Mac," that does not take two hands.
A safe way to eat burgers, without cheese and sloppy mayoneaise (sp) would be to get a dozen regular sliders from White Castle. If one is so stupid that you can't eat at White Castle or take home, then take burgers out of cardboard holder, put in bag they give you, and put on center console. You can then drive semi-safely by reaching in for sliders, 1-12, while driving home or whereever. xrunner does not condone this practice, but offers the safest alternative.
Hard to find link between photo radar and sliders. Best connection is whether or not photo radar/pictures have enough resolution to find that driver was eating a slider. If it does, would there be a double fine: speeding/red light running AND distracted driving eating a burger.
Montana has been known for a very progressive handling of speed issues.
Why not just put a chip in everyone's head that makes them call up the police and confess every time they speed? There are some posters here who would volunteer to man the phones.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I want a slack civil service job monitoring the globalized serf drones on a CCTV. England has this already...
Kind of makes you wonder if there is really any difference huh?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
The Big Mac eater driving home to his McMansion is especially the most dangerous.
Union influence is great on this side of the state mostly due to Boeing, the Adult Daycare Center.
Eastern WA people have Kansas values and Puget Sound people have Chicago propensities. Counties North and South of PS are more agrarian and more likely to be seen in farm trucks than sportcars.
Sadly, those counties N and S of PS also have ample social ills related to the drug industry, and general lack of family wage employment.
"Babeu said most of the total $134,199.43 in fines and fees from the paid citations covered administrative and operational costs, leaving the county with a net profit of $12,391.58 that Babeu dismissed as paltry.
Moreover, Babeu said, total motor-vehicle accidents increased by 16 percent in the same time period, and fatal collisions in the Queen Creek area doubled from three to six."
Pinal County shelves speed-camera program AZCentral.com)
You might take the hint and press harder on the accelerator pedal. You are blocking traffic.
You should also note the absence of automotive armageddon...which shows those driving 11 mph over the posted limit are driving safely, too.
Of course, if you do want to see more accidents when in Texas, then lobby to have that state implement photo radar along limited access highways, and then hope that it also experiences a 16 percent increase in total accidents in the same time period, and a doubling of fatal collisions - which is what happened in the Queen Creek region of Arizona's Pinal County during the time photo radar was in operation.
And it looks as though one Arizona government official agrees with me that focusing solely on speeding to improve traffic safety is a waste of time:
Babeu thinks that putting more deputies on patrol offers the best way to improve safety, instead of relying on cameras that "can't catch drunk drivers" or stop motorists involved in illegal or dangerous activities. (emphasis added)
I see it as a rare victory for common sense, and a triumph of those who are actually informed regarding traffic safety issues over the hysterical and clueless.
Incidentally, you have complained about rudeness...how is calling those who oppose traffic enforcement with photo radar "whining cry babies" polite or civil?
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone...
Believe me, I know you are smart enough to know the difference.
When I figure out a way to make other people pay my ticket because I was FORCED to go faster just because THEY wanted to obliterate the laws, then that will happen.
NO ONE WILL EVER FORCE ME TO DRIVE FASTER THAN I WANT TO.
No. Wrong.
That is as much as a misconception as you thinking that speeding does not increase the severity and injury rates in crashes.
You and I are just going to have to agree to disagree, because we are obviously two smart guys who have our minds made up, and nothing the other says can change that. Continuing this discussion would just be wasting server space on Edmunds.
So you just keep advocating speeding, and I'll keep advocating obeying the law.
Would need to see a study of opeational data on photo radar, red-light cameras in use around the US and then maybe one could draw some conclusions.
Keep working on the legal concept of "Slower Traffic Keep Right". Thank you.
That is as much as a misconception as you thinking that speeding does not increase the severity and injury rates in crashes.
Talk to reputable traffic safety experts...they will tell you that speed on limited access highways isn't the critical factor in improving safety, but preventing speed variance between vehicles going in the same direction. So, sorry, you are incorrect on that one. When the majority of vehicles are passing you on a limited access highway, they are not the ones making the road less safe...you are. This has been proven repeatedly in the real world.
I bet I can find more cops who know I'm right than you can find traffic safety experts who say you are.
Like I said earlier - this is a case of two people both knowing they are right and not being able to influence the other no matter what. Let's quit taking up space on the forums with our unending argument.