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Everyone enjoy their cars and best wishes for satisfaction & reliability, no matter how new or how old your vehicle(s) may be.
Later!
As to Hyundai, what right do you have to say these things when you have never owned one nor even driven one. Yeah, back in 1990, the Excel was quite crude compared to your CRX. A lot has changed since than. The gap has narrowed quite a bit and you can't make assumptions about something you have never even driven. Lastly, I suggest you read other forums and listen to how many people complain about problems in the first year of ownership. I am happy with my car and that is all that matters. This is all pointless anyway because you obviously are one ignorant person. Enjoy your 10 year old Honda. The CRX is a nice car and it is sad that they don't make it anymore. By the way, I would be happy to show how easily my GTI would outhandle your CRX.
Yes i did ignore the distributor problem intentionally because it has been a small problem for Honda. Once again though, i never stated that Honda is perfect, only that their vehicles are some of the most reliable and well built on the road. Hyundai cant say anything close to that.
The infamous CRX is still a sharp car even for being 10 years old. People have wanted Honda to reintroduce a new CRX since then. No one is wishing Hyundai would bring back a certain model. Funny, i cant think of one halfway attractive Hyundai other than the new Sonata(sp?).
True i have never owned a Hyundai. The closest i came was dating a girl with one. Let me think back about the car....UGLY...excessive road noise...wind noise....engine noise...trans noise. The parts were made of the cheapest materials Korea could find, and then they had a tendency to fall off. If that wasnt enough of a reason to question Hyundai, Consumers Reports has had a field day making fun of Hyundai's cars.
Are they improved?, well any idiot knows it takes more than 7,000 miles to determine that(except you of course). I guarantee that the first Hyundai owners of the Hyundais that you admit were crap were also fooled by the first 7,000 miles into believing their cars were quality. I guess things do happen in cycles.
Do you always get your German GTi to fight your Hyundai's battles? I noticed you didnt disagree(for a change) that my 10 year old CRX wouldnt run circles around your brand spankin new box on wheels that you spent thousands and thousands for. But for the record, bring on the GTi. The only GTi that ever impressed me had nitrous.
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http://www.usatoday.com/money/consumer/autos/mauto691.htm
Much, much later!!!
In case anyone hasn't picked up the latest 2001 Consumer Reports annual reviews, let me quote what they have to say for the Daewoo Lanos.
---->"About the size of the Hyundai Accent but a lot cruder, less nimble, and more cramped. The engine is a 1.6-liter four. Like other Daewoos, this car is priced competively and comes well equipped."
Now how is that for sticking to the topic? Keith? Hall monitor? Oh, i couldn't get to the link you posted Keith. Maybe the net is too busy or something, who knows.
For other reviews of Daewoos done from 1998-2000, here's another link. I hope it works, the page is still coming up for me. I also tested the USA Today report link, it is still an active page.
http://www.auho.com/98cars/DaewooLanos.html
This site offers links to other reviews & summaries for the Daewoo Lanos. Auto reviews offer 1 person's viewpoint, just as each message on this forum offers only 1 person's opinion & feelings on a matter.
In message # 140, in the "IMPRESSIONS" section, I stated, "my Daewoo is not a Ferrari, Mercedez-Benz, or Rolls-Royce. (ie: it doesn't have incredible acceleration, European refinement, or a hefty price tag)"
The Daewoo Lanos is a slightly refined econobox. The Daewoo Nubira is a nice compact family hauler.
The Daewoo Leganza offers some luxury amenities.
Very fair assessments. Not the biggest, fastest, or best in any category. Simply good priced cars that get a person from origin to destination.
Anyone in the market for a vehicle will draw on opinions & feedback from other people, market research, & their own personal experience...how they are treated by the dealer, the test drive, feelings from past experiences, etc.
In the end, each person must decide what he/she likes in a car and purchase the one that "fits" them: new vs. used, domestic vs. import, compact vs. larger, extended warranties vs. "a waste of money", so on and so forth.
http://biz.yahoo.com rf/001110/seo2642.html
Sorry about that.
http://www.biz.yahoo.com/rf/001110/seo2642.html
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/001003/ca_daewoo__2.html
In the meantime, thanks for all your hard work to bring these resources to the Town Hall.
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Date: 11/28/00 Current mileage: 17,845 miles
I'm taking the car in for its 18,000 mile service tomorrow (oil & oil filter change, tire rotation, brake system flush & fluid replacement, & the usual array of visual checks)
I bought the car in Tennessee & I am currently living in Maryland, where the climate is colder. The only minute annoyance is that the accessory belt pulleys "squeal" a wee-bit more when I start the car on cold mornings. The noise has been present since I purchased the car 7,000 miles ago.
It seems as though the colder climate is making the sound more noticable. I don't notice the noise as much after the car has been running for a while & has warmed up. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it a sign of a bigger problem? Is it just another "quirk" that is common to Daewoo Lanos'?
Any feedback is welcome concerning this little nuisance. Thanks for your attention in this matter.
GetJesusNow@juno.com Keith Reh
I don't know if I can really call it a squeal...it makes a bit of noticable noise. It seems to be the pulleys themselves, if that makes any sense.
I just had the 18,000 mile maintenance service done, which includes visual inspection of the belt, pulleys, and tensioner. I wasn't told that anything was wrong.
I'm just curious if anyone else with a Daewoo is having a similar experience. Thank you for the advice in #178, I'll keep that in mind.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/001202/ca_daewoo_.html
If it is the belt, belt dressing at about $4 a can will shut it up until it glazes over and snaps. If it is not the belt, maybe it is the bearing on the pulley. GM alternators, at least the CS110's, are known for frying bearings. They make a replacement alternator called the Iceberg which has a wider tougher bearing and better internal parts than the AC/Delco/GM part. If the bearing is the problem, either it is a cheap bearing, the belt is too tight, or the accessory has an extreme load. An A/C compressor in cold weather will be under a hard load. So will an alternator running the fan, lights, wipers, defroster, radio, tape or CD, electric shaver, CB radio, turn signals, cell phone charger, or any combination of the above while still charging the car battery at a 1000rpm idle. A failing power steering pump will whine, too. The Daewoo belt may be of a type of rubber that squeals at a different pitch. Maybe the dealer can locate the noise at your 18K service or the next one. Hopefully the belt doesn't break and leave you stranded in the meantime.
I have also done a decent visual inspection and haven't found any remarkable wear, sheering, or cracking. Only the lettering on the smooth side is a bit removed. The overall tension seems to be okay...it has a wee bit of play, but not enough to jump off the pulleys.
SATURN HERE I COME !!!
This Carl lives in IA, and my mileage is always 5-10% worse in winter. My Nubira gets over 30 MPG in the warmer weather, but I don't even bother with tracking MPG in the winter time for the above reasons.
I was amazed at how small this car is. She paid $12K for it.. She got Auto tranny, A/C and something else.. I think she paid too much but anyway.. I drove it around the block. It had 110 mi. on it. The car had OK acceleration for an auto but the steering didn't feel too accurate and the brakes were kind of mushy.. The interior and quality didn't feel too great.. When I pulled back into my driveway I parked it right next to my '97 Civic Hatchback and the Lanos seemed to be at least 1/2 foot shorter in length. The cargo/hatch space also seemed to be about 1/2 of my Civic's. I paid $12.4K for my Civic with 5-sp and A/C. Even if the Lanos was in the US in '97 (which it wasn't), it wouldn't be on my shopping list.. The Civic just looks much bigger and I don't like taking risks.
Too bad Honda doesn't make the Hatchback for '01. People would have more hatchback choices.. BTW, I saw a few Lanos in Europe this year. I wouldn't say there were a lot of them. There were a lot more VW Polos, Fiats, Alfas and Renault hatchbacks, than Hondas and Daewoos.
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
Most of the power train, chassis components, etc. are GM derived and parts are readily available on U.S. soil. The technology used in the car is proven; Daewoo automobiles are sold in over 180 nations. Insurance premiums are reduced on Daewoos also. There are pros & cons to every car purchase. Ride comfort and power are a bit reduced...but the car is pretty damn affordable.
Enjoy your Honda...they are good cars also. Remember, a car is a device to get us to-and-fro. If you like it a wee bit more comfortable and cozy, then buy one that has those amenities.
The Daewoo Lanos gets myself and others around just fine. There are several quirks that I wish weren't present, but it is a helluva alot more comfortable that riding in the back of a U.S. Army 2 1/2 ton cargo truck...been there, done that
My new Daewoo Nubira has been a great car.
If the new Lanos is big enough for you then get it. The only reason to buy the older Camry is for the room and better resale value (you know how quickly the resale value drops on a new car).
The Lanos is a well-built car; in this price range it's your best buy. The first year of maintenance is free. Also, you're less likely to need repair or routine maintenance with any new car.
on with an OBDII vehicle a failure code is registered with the engine computer. A Daewoo mechanic can read this code and know exactly
where the failure is. For the problem that you described, ALL the fixes they allegedly made
sound suspicious because the problem you are describing usually has to do with a bad sensor that controls ignition. If you are for real, tell
them to check the CAM sensor, Crankshaft sensor,
and oxygen sensor.
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No major problems & no minor problems since my last posting!!! Very solid performer!!!
See ya!
I have a 93 Geo Storm now and it is horrible in the snow. My e-mail is aficca@gi.com
Anyone!
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The car itself is excellent. Although my Lanos is still relatively new, I have not had any problems with it whatsoever. It starts up fine in all types of weather. There are no squeals, clangs, hisses, or anything when I drive. I honestly feel like this car is one of the best kept secrets on the road today. The car is comfortable, reliable, sleek, and economical. And it's spunky too!
I admit that I have driven my Lanos pretty hard. Up until about a month ago (when I got a speeding ticket), I would regularly drive 90-105 mph on the interstate for extended periods of time. The car handled quite nicely at those speeds, and I didn't notice any terrible engine noise. I have even taken my Lanos up to 120 with no problem. I have since cut my speed to 65-80, and the engine still hums nicely.
The car handles quite well in turns. The a/c gets very COLD and the heater gets very HOT. I live in South Carolina, so I haven't been able to drive the car in the snow yet. I did hydroplane once in the rain when I was approaching a traffic light at the bottom of a hill, but other than that, the car has handled beautifully. The tires grip the road well and the suspension is great.
As for gas mileage, I average about 33 mpg all around. One thing I don't like about my Lanos is its fuel gauge. When it appears that the needle is almost at the empty mark, you really have 3 or 4 gallons left. So I usually just reset my trip odometer everytime I fill up my tank and realize that I need to gas it up again after every 280 miles or so.
The only other quirk with the car is the front passenger's seat. I don't know how or why this happens, but it seems to recline on its own over time. I haven't had this minor issue checked out by the dealer though. I just readjust the seat every few days. No problem.
Other than that, the seats are comfortable, the brakes are superb, the stereo is VERY GOOD, the "cheap plastic" dashboard is a nonissue, the trunk area is cavernous, the cabin itself offers a lot of room (I'm 6 feet tall), the ergonomics are good, and the ride in general is smooth. The 36,000 mile free maintenance I got with the car is just gravy. I am VERY pleased with my Lanos and highly recommend it to anyone who is considering an inexpensive, well-performing, off-the-beaten-path car.
I am going back to the dealer again tonight and talk to them again.
My only concern at this point is the future of Daewoo. What if I have problems a year or two from now and Daewoo is gone. The car is a great deal though. So I'm going to "roll the Dice" and hope Daewoo lives on.
I had a Geo Metro and it finally went out on me after 8 years, hardly put any money in it during that time. My choices were limited since I insist on a hatchback. I was searching for the latest hatchbacks on the market and came across the Lanos. I went to the dealer and test drove the car and fell in love. Perfect little car for me. The one Im thinking about buying is the automatic with air, dealer told me he would let me have it for 10,300 which sounded pretty good to me. I would love to have the power windows and all that but I noticed a BIG difference in price between the model with the power features. Nevertheless next month Im going to drive off the lot with my new lanos and based on everything i've read on the web about this car, Im going to be very pleased! These boards are terrific for people like me that want to read reviews and get honest opinions on vehicles. My dealer did mention something to me about GM ? taking over Daewoo in april sometime, and i didn't get the feeling from the manager that it was gonna be a good thing. Anyone hear anything about it being bought up?
The dealer gave me a great deal. I bought the Lanos Sport for only $11,542.00. They said it was invoice, (I know it's not) but it is close. The car has an invoice of $11,400.00 + misc fee's to the dealer. (advertising etc...)
Anyway, I've had the car only a few days but am 100% sure I made the right choice. I have owned compact car before and this one is by far the best. I also looked at the Toyota Echo, The Mitsubishi Mirage, Ford Focus, Suzuki swift, and the Honda civic. (all competitive models)
NONE of them came close to the value the Lanos offered.
The car is very "spunky". I bought the 5-speed though. Some of the gear ratios are so close that it could have been a 4-speed. Accelleration is more than acceptable. (automatic trans will be slower). The car handles corners as well as my Camero did. Highway driving is also good. can cruise at 70-80mph with plenty of "pedal" left.
The only major thing I don't care for is the Drivers side door lock. The car is labeled as power locks. This is missleading. The Drivers side is MANUAL. The passenger is power. I.E. when you open the drivers side, the passenger also unlocks.
Otherwise the car is GREAT.
Another bonus is the car is a sporty little car that not many people have seen. I get a lot of people commenting on how "sharp" the car is but many have never heard of a Daewoo.
It's a shame the company is in Financial distress. They make a great car. GM will hopefully continue on the same path "if" the sale goes through.
2)There's a nasty rattle in the driver's door in my Lanos
3)The antenna also rattles- seems worse at highway speeds
4)Admittedly, I have an automatic, but the mileage is far from what I'd hoped for in a hatchback/subcompact