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Im telling you...dont get an automatic. Manuals are so much more fun. also, the manual in the hyundais are pretty good. smooth shifting motions. its a long throw shifter, in case anyone is wondering
enjoy the moment.
Scott
BUT the big question RELIABILITY..
Hyundyai was known in the past to have an unreliable auto tranny.
The replacement cost a fortune. Has the newer models gotten better or do we need to wait and see ??? My self I saw too many fail at or before 50,000 miles.
I shy from the automatic from Hyundai until they prove (over time) they have since become reliable !!!
As far as preferences, that's fine. Different people have different expectations on performance. To me, saddling a torque deficient small four banger with a power robbing auto is stupid. I expect at least some get up and go. Seeing as the biggest complaint about my 2000 Accent is the off-the-line acceleration even though I have the manual, the auto would just be even more agitating and painfully slow. So, to me, the further slowing down of things makes an auto equipped Accent very unattractive (even with the new engine). I guess it all boils down to those who actually enjoy driving and those who look at it as an appliance that should be as easy to operate as possible.
I haven't figured out how the panel comes off either, but it must be held on with hidden screws. Open the cup holder and look up to see if the screws are there. I will look at it more later on and see if I can provide any more incite. If all else fails, try calling Hyundai and asking for directions or call the dealer.
Scott
Thanks
Rich
Anyway, thanks for bringing this topic up. I remember seeing something in the manual about having an interior filter, but it never says whether you are supposed to replace it or where it is located, at least not that I saw. I figured maybe the Canadians got it and we didn't, but I'm glad to know that our little economy car offers such a nice feature. I do notice much less dust floating around.
rukawa, i d go for the accent. it does have a new engine. it has a 1.6 liter 105 hp now. last year it was only 92. ive heard a lot of good things about the accent. cheap to buy, lots of options standard, reliable. nice 10 yr warranty. id go for it. i have an elantra, but thats because i got a great deal on it. my plan was to try to talk the guy down to $10,000 on the base 5 spd elantra. if not, then i was going to get the base 5 spd accent cause that fitted my budget without haggling. turns out i got rims and cruise control for 10,800. not bad. the hyundai dealers are really flexible when haggling. so talk the dealer down as much as you can.
i think some has lined-up grills in between the headlights.. and I've seen grills that features a happy face.. I was wondering which grills come with the 2001 Accent GSi?
www.hyundaicanada.com
and it does look good with the happy smile grills
I have owned the car for 6 months now and have 7200 miles. The car has been flawless. It has not been back to the dealer. I changed my oil for the second time and the engine finally seems to be freeing up a bit (it has a bit more pep). My fuel economy still changes dramatically week to week though. One week I got an impressive 33 mpg all city driving (AC off most of the time) and than the very next week it dropped down to 27 (using the AC a bit more). It perturbs me, but I have learned to accept it now. The one annoying squeak is still present somewhere in the B pillar on the passenger side of the car, but otherwise the car still remains solid.
I have little to complain about the Kumho tires. They grip pretty good in the dry (I have only made them squeal in protest once), are relatively quiet, and don't seem to have the shimmy problems that plague Hankook tires. They do seem to lose tire pressure at a higher than normal pace though. I have to add 2-4 psi's every 3 weeks or so.
All in all, I am still completely satisfied with my purchase. I was considering trading up to the 2001 GS model to get the more powerful engine and the power package, but since this car has been so good, I decided to stick with it at least until I graduate from college in another year. Any other happy Accent owners out there?
Happy hunting!
As to the other things that were mentioned in the post, one is a very minor problem and the other is a design that is used in many cars and is not a problem. Many new cars automatically turn on the AC when you select the defroster. My 84 VW GTI even does it. The Accent's turn stalk, when pulled towards you, flashes the high beams, or when pushed away, turns them on. It's possible magooch is tugging or pushing the lever while turning on the blinker. Or maybe the switch is loose. Not a big deal by any stretch.
You are pulling stuff out of thin air to make yourself feel better about paying the same price for a used car as I did for a new one. As far as I'm concerned, your post was stupid and simply showed how ignorant and quick to judge you really are.
Sure it may be a sensor in the tranny, but you dont know that. It could need an entirely new tranny. Either way its a new car..it should not have that major of a problem. And to straighten you out, i know that any car company can have a bad product. But Hyundai produces a line of cars with problems that never get fixed...they just keep throwing them out there for you to buy.
I havent followed the new accord V-6. I suggest people read articles in reputable media sources.
A Honda minivan? Why do you keep bringing up that one specific van? Didnt you admit any company is bound to have a couple bad cars out of thousands? You failed to mention that the demand for Odesseys is so great that people are on waiting lists to purchase them. Besides, it's a fairly new entry...they havent had many years to perfect it. The difference is that Hyundai hasn't fixed any of their many problems. They would rather make a car that breaks more often and trick people like yourself into buying them. They just attempt to keep a straight face when they tell you....."its a great car (snicker...snicker) sure..it competes with the Civic (snicker...snicker) yeah, it'll last you just as long as the competition (snicker...snicker) and boom! you're sold.
Honda doesnt offer a car in that class because they have a reputation to uphold. They know you cant build a decent(let alone good) car for that price.
As for you personal attacks....I dont mind at all. If you cant even tell a good car from a pile of crap, then i dont expect you to appreciate or acknowledge my wisdom.
Just a few other things I've noted about cars that might be considered competition. I did look at the Ford Focus, but this was priced much higher. I couldn't help but notice the recent Focus recall of about a quarter million cars because "the rear wheel and brake assembly may become detached from the car" and "the cruise control may become stuck in the full open throttle position". These are not encouraging thoughts. My brother had a Honda, the more expensive one. This car had some kind of electrical problem which caused the car to stop five or six times on the highway. Very hard to fix because it was an intermittent type problem, the repairman's nightmare. He finally bought a Lumina.
The only encounter I have had with an Odyssey was the one that went out of control on slushy pavement, despite the ABS brakes, and totaled my beloved Shadow. The Shadow being replaced by the Accent. I will try to keep you all informed as to my experience with the Accent.
Personally, I have only owned two Hondas and they both were junk because they had been abused (1980 Civic 1300 and 1986 Civic sedan). It isn't like I spent a lot of money on them, I used the rest of their lives up and scrapped them like I do with all my cars. Those cars aren't good examples though because they had been abused. I abused the 1980 and broke the timing belt, but it ran long enough (a week) to be worth the whopping $40 I spent on it (by the way I sold it for $50 for parts). The 1986 had a blown head gasket when I got it so it didn't last long either, but it got me around for a month making it worth the $300 price.
obviously, by your profile, you dont know the meaning of a quality car. i mean, 38 cars. c'mon. you shouldnt even speak because that is just retarded buying such trash. if you scraped all the money you had on those cars, im sure you could have gotten a brand new elantra. you havent owned a hyundai so you really cant say anything.
and about my last post. To everyone, hyundai owner or not....it just angers me to see how ignorant people are out that think hyundai is crap just by the excel and passed experiences 9 years ago. they havent looked into hyundai, owned one. they just "assume" its bad. remember assume means making an "[non-permissible content removed]" out of "u" and "me". i wish people would look into hyundai or anything else before opening their mouth. formulate your own opinion, not assume.
Here is a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
Some people say american cars suck. Well, I have a 1996 jeep cherokee with almost 100,000 miles on it not once has it been in the shop for anything other then routine maintance. so what does that tell you there? Reliable? i would say so since it hasnt had ONE problem. Some people say European cars are the best. well, my mother has a leased 99 saab 9-3. in the passed year, the A/C broke, and the automatic climate control shorted out last week. Reliable? thats a debatable issue. No car is really unreliable. it all depends on the owner. A properly maintined civic will run great for many miles to come....but so will a properly maintanced hyundai. that is all i have to say
As to your history of Hyundai, the 94-98 Sonata was a very capable car. The 94 model beat the Camry and placed 3rd out of 6 cars in Car & Driver's comparison test for the best family sedan for 20 grand. Seeing as how the Scoupe was simply an Excel with sportier looks, its below average reliability is not too surprising. I see 92-95 Elantras on the road all the time and most are still in good condition with no smoke pouring out of the exhaust pipe, unlike so many used Hondas on the road. The Elantra's only known fault was the tendency of early models to break the timing belt if it wasn't changed promptly around the 60K mark. Since the Elantra's engine at the time was simply a Mitsubishi design, it wasn't really Hyundai's fault. Many things have changed since than. Hyundai now uses its own engine designs and things have been looking up ever since they did that. I can only suggest what I did to freakncrx. You have no place to talk until you actually have owned a newer Hyundai. Until than, your conjecture about how much better Honda is is pure heresay and is based solely on reputation. Good luck the next time you stroll through the junk yard. Maybe you will find that elusive diamond in the ruff
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