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Not as good as 0% interest that Toyota is offering on the Camry, Ford is offering on the Fusion and Chevy is offering on the Malibu
Not as good as the 1.9% Honda is offering on the Accord and Nissan is offering on the Altima.
:mad:
If you want factory sunroof you have to take nav at this time.
Pacific Blue Pearl - Looks primarily black to me from a distance, but if you get closer and walk around it you can see the dark, brilliant blue from some angles.
Indigo Blue Pearl - It looks more blue but has a tendency towards a purple tint from some angles. It is fairly dark.
Black Plum Pearl - Looks black from a distance and hard to distinguish from the Pacific Blue Pearl until you get close enough to see the slight plum tint which is more subtle than on the Indigo Blue Pearl.
These 3 colors look very similar from a distance in the bright sun and I had to read the window sticker to tell the difference.
I could not find a Venetian red in the Limited - not sure if they are making those yet, since it comes with only a Camel Leather interior which is not available till April. The only Reds that I have seen are either SE or GLS with cloth Camel or Grey interior. It seems that there are very few Limiteds out there especially w/Nav so if that is what you want you will have a limited choice, at least for the time being.
white/black
black/grey
harbor grey/black
pacific blue/grey
I may have to reset my expectations--either change to one of these combos, or be prepared to wait awhile for black/black.
Thanks for the update on the silver/gray. Has anyone seen any other color combos in Sonata LTDs w/nav?
Would you be willing to try out a few songs that I have, that I know cause the static issue via the iPod (but not via mp3 data CD)?
Shoot me an e-mail if you would ... it's my username at Gmail.
Cheers,
Trevor
Since Hyundai expects to sell only a small number of SEs, waiting on any particular combo might take a long time.
-Trevor
I think it was a dealer add on--not put in the car in the plant.
gray. The windows had a dark tent done thru the dealership, this
car was put inside on the showroom floor. That had me sold at
first sight after looking at many others. You have fine looking
"RIDE". I love mine you will too!!!
I can't speak to bluetooth streaming as my iPod doesn't have bluetooth.
Relax & wait a year. Let the excitement die down. Give Hyundai a chance to identify & fix the bugs that infect any new car, no matter who makes it or how good the design is. A year from now, fewer buyers will be chasing more cars, sales reps will treat you like a visiting head of state & you'll have no trouble finding the the color combo you want for the price that you're willing to pay.
IMO, the cons of buying a hot new car outweigh the pros. It's not as Hyundai will build only 5000 Sonatas & then melt down the tooling. You can be sure that the company will keep stamping out the cars as long as someone in this part of the galaxy wants to buy one. There'll be enough Sonatas to go around. So sit back & relax.
-Trevor
There is a lot of wisdom in your post. However, in my case, my lease was about to expire on my current car so I had to do something within a few months. I decided to walk 3 months early on my lease because I got exactly the color and trim level I was looking for and got almost $3K off sticker on it. Some dealers around here weren't willing to deal too much, but I was able to find more than one that I could get a good price from. There is some type of hidden dealer incentives on these because Hyundai wants to get them on the road for people to see.
I was, and have always been, leery of buying any first year of any car. But if I was going to get a Sonata, it had to be a 2011. But back in '89 I bought the only other Hyundai I've ever owned. It was not only the first year model for the Sonata, it was the first year the Sonata was even offered in the US. Owned it 3 years and never had a single thing wrong.
The Sonata has come a long way since then, hasn't it?
Yes and no. I first saw the '89 at the auto show and was very impressed at the time. I test drove the Camry that year and the Sonata. The Camry was quieter and had a softer ride. But the Sonata offered more features at a lower cost. Really not much different than today.
Of course I think the 2011 is a much better car than the '89. But the 2010 Camry is a much better car than the '89 Camry. I drove that Sonata for 3 years and it never developed a single rattle the entire time. Never had any service issues. My only problem with the car was that it came with Michelin tires. Since I worked for Goodyear at the time I was able to rectify that very quickly.
What you say makes some sense, how you say it is offensive to most of the people posting on here that have just bought or are looking to buy soon. What would happen to a car company if everyone took your advice and they came out with a great new car and absolutely nobody bought one? Probably cause some major problems like there not even being a second year. A lot of people buy new versions of cars because they really like it and gamble a little bit. Just because their comfort level of risk is a little higher than yours and they're willing to put up with some potential problems doesn't make them airheads. There are millions of people that have bought first year models and are perfectly happy. Of course, there are a lot that may have some problems too but with todays modern quality control and the testing that cars go through before they hit the streets the gamble has become less and less.
Do some buy just to be first on the block? Sure, and I agree with you that is a silly reason to buy a car. But to classify just about everybody else that is doing so as airheads is just wrong.
And it's always been stupid to buy another car when your current car still runs. And it's always stupid to buy a car with all the fancy options. I mean a car with cloth seats will get you to your destination in the same time as that car with the leather.
But the fact is, buying a car isn't an investment. It's an expense. And people want value for what they spend their money on. Life's too short to drive crappy cars.
It's so predictable that you can set your watch by it.
Now this would be understandable if we were discussing a little vineyard in Napa that produces just 500 cases a year of a drop-dead delicious cab sauvignon, but we're not. We're talking about car companies that will run 3 shifts a day, 7 days a week, if necessary, to satisfy the demand for their product. The Sonata seems like a terrific car, but it's just that - a car. It's not a limited-production collector's item. If you want a good deal, then wait. If you can't wait, don't complain that you're not getting a good deal. It's that simple.
You ask what would happen if everyone followed my advice. Don't worry. There's no danger of that. None at all. We're dealing with human nature here.
About the risk associated with a new design: the Sonata looks to be a well-sorted-out effort, & I agree that the risk is minimal. At worst, you might have to go back to the dealer a couple of times for a couple of minor fixes. The risk is much greater at higher price points. You'd have to pay me to buy a 1st year E class Mercedes, for example. Still, I feel better when I can read posts here that begin "I've had my [Brand X] for a year, & after 12K miles, I'm completely satisfied."
Human nature checking in; so I am looking at the 2011 Sonata and wanted a sanity check on what the high risk items are on this car. So far, I note a newer engine technology (GDI=gasoline direct injection?) that is evolutionary (not revolutionary). Then, #2 is the new in-house developed 6-speed auto tranny (not sure if it is the same one used in the Genesis/Veracruz [doubtful]) BUT it is the first time Hyundai has mated a 4 cyl to a 6-speed AT. Not sure how they kept the weight down but it is a bit lighter than past Sonatas. Have I missed anything significant?
Two days ago, I drove a 2010 Limited V-6 and a 2011 GLS (w/PEP) mainly because they would cost about the same (this week anyway). I realize it wasn't a fair comparison but the 2010 still has it's merits and is priced right. Supply of the 2010 is waning due to the major price reductions from MSRP but I am still on-the-fence. So, one positive to all the new-model frenzy noted by "jimbres" is the freedom of choice we all have at this time.
Of course, one good option is to get a 2010 Sonata, if that car meets your needs--thousands less than a 2011 right now, and a very good car in its own right.
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Huh? Here's an example:
I wouldn't buy a new car unless I got 20% off the sticker price, it included all scheduled maintenance for 3 years and the interest rate on my 3 year loan was under 6%.
The next guy, who's so much smarter than me, buys the same model as 2 year old car with 30,000 miles on it for 70% of the original sticker price, gets essentially no warranty and no scheduled maintenance included and pays 9% interest on their loan.
Good deals can be had on new cars. It's not always stupid to buy new. If you negotiate well, it can be your best bet by far.
Glad to hear you are still happy with the car. Any thoughts on the ride quality of the SE? Also, more pics would be welcome
Nice Sonata btw Syitalian! Sharpest car on the lot!
After looking at the website today, it appears that the new Sonata does support voice recognition. Can anyone tell me how extensive this is, and how it works? My wife has a UConnect system in her 2010 Dodge Journey. On that system you can speak addresses, and the system will guide you. You can also say "FM 101.9", and the radio will tune to that channel. Same with satellite.
Will the Sonata do the same tricks?