If I recall correctly, the N.A. spec ZX3 taillamps incorporate a red reflector, required in the US, as well as the twin back up lights. Changing to the amber turnsignal would eliminate these.
The Euro market ZX3s incorporate a backup light, as well as rear fog lamps in the rear bumper. These were probably eliminated in the US due to insurance concerns / replacement costs (my guess).
I had a problem with the ABS light staying on and the dealer replaced the hydraulic control unit. Today both the ABS and Brake warning light stayed on after starting the car. I turned the car off and started it again and the lights stayed off. I drove for about 10 miles and the lights were back on. Only after turning the car off and on again did the lights go out. Has anyone seen this problem? The car only has 800 miles on it. The good part is that the brakes did not stop working.
Well, I finally test drove the ZX3. It was black, not my favorite color but it was sharp looking. I read a lot of reviews about the 130 hp Focus being underpowered. Well I thought it had a lot of zip. But I'm now driving a 1600 cc 82hp mercury tracer. With my auto tracer going up a long highway entrance ramp, I had to turn off the air conditioner some times. The auto Focus had plenty of power for me. I had the seat cranked up to the max. I found myself looking over the top of some cars in front of me (neat feeling). I had never seen any pictures of how the rear hatch opened. There is a little well in the trunk, maybe 4 or 5 inches. I was afraid the bottom of the hatch was flush with the floor of the trunk. Open the hatch and your stuff would roll out on the ground. I wish the Focus had an inside fuel door release. I know you can pry those doors open with a screwdriver. But you'd probably know someone did it. Anyone thinking about getting an aftermarket locking gas cap. I checked out the power windows and tilt steering on a sedan and want both options. I thought the ZX3 felt really tight and sure footed. It took 10 or 20 minutes getting used to sitting so high. I ran over bumps, I could hear them, outside(like it was the car next to me ran over the bump) but not through the car. I was sold. I'll put my order in as soon as all the options are available.
I just bought a 2000 Focus Zx3/manual yesterday and I love it. My drive out was $13,500. It drives like a car costing thousands more. As well, I think ZX3 drivers will have a little bit of exclusivity due to the fact that most of the focus sales, I believe, are coming from the sedan and wagon.
The 2.0 liter zetec motor provides good low end torque and is smooth and quiet. I wish I could get that performance upgrade offered in the ZX2 S/R. It has 140hp and 205/55R 15. It would have been nice if Ford made those options standard on the ZX3.
Does anyone know if the factor will provide ZX3 owners with that chip?
What happened to "project ZX3" after the unfortumate incident? Is everything working out? Hope so- good luck and keep us informed on the repairs/service you get through the dealer (if it's not too painful to talk about)
So today I went back and got it and brought it home before civilization, as we know it, ends. The salesman sat in it with me showing me how to operate the controls. I still say that remote lock systems for a 2-door car is overkill, but I digress...I've been driving a 1989 Toyota Corolla for the last 9 years and wasn't used to all the dual-flam hemmies...the salesman was laughing his butt off and said it's about time I entered the 90's...now that they're over. Driving home in heavy traffic made me very aware of being *very* high up, looking down at the cars around me - very much like being in an RMV, I imagine. The brakes are very sensitive. When I got it home and parked it next to the Toyota Corolla, the Focus seemed huge, almost like a van. BTW, I would have gotten another Toyota, but I wanted a hatchback and Toyota doesn't make one in my price range. The Corolla is still going strong at 140K, but at 11 years old, it's only a matter of time. I was going to leave the Focus out in the driveway so the neighbors could start gossiping, but I figured that would be too obvious - it's tucked safely away in the garage.
I ordered my car (an SE wagon) on October 12, and it rolled onto the dealer's lot on Dec. 30; twelve weeks and two days after placing the order.
In addition to transport holdups (which seem to be common everywhere) I'm sure you've heard about the preproduction recalls that stopped some of the production lines for a while.
I tried everything to get mine sooner, but Ford's customer assistance center is less than useless. I just had to bear it. (For a long-winded diatribe on my buying experience, look for my post titled "Diary of a Ford Buyer" a few weeks back in the station wagons topic.)
Finally picked mine up last night, an SE wagon in autumn orange. Have driven all of six miles on it so far, but think I'm going to be very, very happy with it.
Good luck on your purchase; it will be worth the wait.
There are a lot of postings about The "comfort Group" and other options being available in Feb. but this seems to just hear-say. does anyone have official information.
hi everyone, well our zx3 is still awaiting a left front fender thanks to rudolf the dead [non-permissible content removed] reindeer! the hood and bumper are in as well as grill, lights and radiator supports. while it is in the bodyshop having the repairs done we may just have some customized paint done. can anyone give me any good links to where we could view some custom paint jobs? what the hell the whole front end needs painted anyway... might as well get started. thanks...and a happy and SAFE new year to all!
sorry that i've been away. it is still very painful to think about. im back and will keep you posted as much as i can. i think i can finally cope with the accident but it still hurts. jamers, i'd be raising hell if i were you. my zx3 came in 7 weeks! it came from hermosillo, mexico. i wish they had been 10 seconds early or 10 seconds late. i wish you the best. if yours is coming from wayne, michigan thats probably the hold up i would suspect.
Maybe the dealership wanted a showroom car as quick as possible and they setled for less to get the vehicle. Those Focuses go quickly and they haven't lasted three days on our lot.
Here is a major problem our dealership faces on an hourly bases:
We are having trouble geting Beetles with CD players and Aluminum wheels because VW wants us to sell more Jettas and put a stop sale on stocked Beetle orders. Of course everybody gets upset by this. The customer would have to wait a couple of weeks and pay more (service wants money to install it and parts has to pay for this stuff), the sales person can't negotiate a price and can't get aa sale for a couple of weeks till the part comes in, service doesn't work for free and they can't do anything till the part comes in. Parts has to pay for it and get sick reminding everybody everyday that the part is on back order and they have no clue when it is coming or if it works (we frequently get new parts that don't work or are damaged or the catalog gave us the wrong part or the mechanic gave us the wrong info or the wrong part is in the box or we were shorted and have to order another one ect.). This goes for all vehicals and their accessories (i.e. Ford floor mats are one of the worst). The customer gets upset and calls customer service which calls the dealership wondering why we haven't done anything (dealerships for thee most part are not owned by the car company) and we say the part is on back order.
The dealership gets a negative rateing because the customer is upset, which gets the dealership upset especially if the customer no longer wants the part (accessories form Ford are non returnable and the parts departments hate sucking up parts that nobody wants).
The moral of the story is:
Know what you want and know where to get it. If you don't like the car on the lot, order what you want.
If you are touchy about something (people keep hearing rattles when they are driving on the worst roads in the state and then blame service even though there is nothing service can do), buy a Honda (of course you will be paying through the nose).
Never call customer service because of backordered parts. They won't help (they know the part is on backorder and everyone just has to wait because companies like Ford outsource their stuff so somebody else makes the part and Ford has no direct access to these people (neither do the dealerships). Since you called to complain (that's how customer service sees it) the dealership gets a nasty call. The same goes with unfixable problems (like road noise), stuff that doesn't exist (there are serveral people here that expect our dealership to know how to modify vehicals, especially in the area of transplanting an engine or transmission from one kind of vehical to another).
Just bought my Black ZX3 with keyless remote entry and aftermarket power sunroof (oh yes! Ford will install it for you through their own company before delivery) for $13.500! What a deal!! I love this car. before i bought this i was out for a Beetle GLX 1.8T. But that $9000 sticker difference sank me into the love bucket seats of the ZX3. It is everything i need and nothing i don't!! That GLX was nice but who the heck needs all of that stuff?! besides with a chip upgrade, true-rev intake kit, and 2nd muffler chop + resonated tip (all for less that $500) i can blow that glx away anyday. Although the engine as it is stock is noisier on the inside of the car that the beetle (which is almost like being in a vacuum, the car is just as aesthetically appealing and alluring. design teams busted their humps on the ZX3 and it pays off. The car is gorgeous and the handling is greAt! Sound system is superb and i couldn't be happier. Finding one to meet you exact specifications is really tough (i mean REALLY TUFF!!) but once done it is wel worth it. I shopped relentlessly for 2 weeks, vowing not to give up until i found my car wherever i had to drive to get it and there it was--in my own home town. Ahhhh. Next in line is a spring upgrade and a wing or headers. I'm going for a rhyming thing for aftermarket...chip and tip/springs and wing/.....Love your Focus--I love mine!!
Yeah! I love mine too. I put on 2000 miles in the first week and the car runs great! I got a 6 disk CD changer make the car even better. I was just wondering what is the best RPM to change the gear during the break in period? I usually change gear between 2500-2750rpm, is that okay? Thanks for any reply.
dang there SPDPLY.....you're so lucky...i was never told about this when i ordered mine...and why now and not then with this important info. thanx for sharing anyway...> i'll remember next time i get another zx3.(hehe)
PROJECT ZX3..SORRY TO HEAR YOU'RE CAR IS STILL IN THE SHOP. BY THE WAY ...I DID RAISED H.. IN THEIR PLACE. RELENTLESSLY CALLING THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY SINCE THE PROMISED DATE, EARLY DECEMBER. I WAS THE BIGGEST PAIN ON THEIR BUTT AND VERY MUCH VICE VERSA BECAUSE OF BROKEN PROMISES. ANYWAY I WAS TOLD I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT TOMORROW(I HOPE) THEN I'LL CALL IN SICK ON TUESDAY TO HAVE FUN WITH MY ZX3(HEHEHEHE). I'LL KEEP U GUYS UPDATED OF MY FIRST DATE WITH MY BABY..AND HER NAME IS FOCUS. (I GUESS I'M GETTING CRAZY)
are you sure it was ford spdpy??? it might be the dealer that gladly put it in for you!!!! i know all the delaers i have talked too have said they gladly will put it on for me, but it comes at a price, most dealers here have quoted 900 for a (spoiler style)power sliding sunroof . i have priced it privatley (like at Ziebart) it would only be 500 for the same exact thing!! if you are loooking for one focus owners shop around!!
I just got home with my new Focus ZX3...I love it! Bought it from Crown Ford in Nashville, TN for $12500. It's a 5 speed, A/C, ABS pitch black with gray interior. Can't wait until tommorrow when it stops pouring rain to try it out real good. The quality of this car is unbelievable at the price!
Will write more later...gotta look at it some more!
well, finally i got my zx3 ..W O W !!! When i was signing the paper work they brought the car out from their garage and i said W o W !!! Is that the car i ordered. Almost 3 months of excruciating wait seems nothing when i saw the beauty of this car. We're lucky TO have this car..it's nothing like anything out there. I believe I'm the first one in queens, NY who got this..pls. correct me if i'm wrong.
Anyway here's the info i need...DOES ANYBODY HERE CAN FOLD THEIR SIDE MIRRORS? BEC I THOUGHT THAT'S HOW I COMES WITH. secondly, IS YOUR INDOOR CEILING LAMP LOCATED BY THE FRONT AREA ONLY OR ARE THERE SUPPOSE TO BE TWO.
OH YEAH...ONE THING THATS BOTHERING...I DIDN'T NOTICE UNTIL I DROVE MY CAR AWAY...IT ALREADY HAS 50 MILES ON IT...WHAT DO YOU GUYS/LADIES THINK?
i'm so happy you finally got your zx3! 50 miles...maybe you raised so much hell the dealership went out and drove it to thier lot instead of waiting for a transport! haha! i wouldn't worry about it..mine had 20 on it. i didn't really have the car long enough to notice any of the features you question. but i did notice one thing on mine...my zx3 doesn't have the lock out latch/knob to go to reverse on the shifter. does yours? i know the one i test drove did. can anyone elaborate on that? on another note... i drove up to my dealership bodyshop and our zx3 is still sitting in the same spot. i could just die. still waiting on parts. i can only imagine how protracted this wait is going to be as it's hard enough to get the car delivered. everyone please say a prayer for us. it can't hurt and we sure would appreciate it.
1) The mirrors do not fold 2) Only one dome light in front 3) When I picked up my car all the papers I said the car had 34 miles on it. When I sat down I noticed 236 miles. And since it had taken over 2 hours to take delivery I was not going to go back to redo the paperwork. I assume the dealer got it with 34 miles and others test drove it before me. Thats what you get buying of the lot.
I think a new car with 0.1 miles is extremely rare. i wouldn't mind it if the factory drove it to find bugs before shipping it. Just as long as its below 200 or so miles.
Anyone know what their state law is that defines when a car is called a "demo" after so many miles?
the car was delivered to newark waiting for transfer to the dealer about a month before i got mine. i guess those people in storage played around with it...i may have done thesame thing since that car is irresistable. sorry PROJECT ZX3, i got mine with automatic...im sure you get more power with the stick. another thing, is there a power outlet in the car i thought i read that somewhere. maybe you guys are wondering why ask here and not check your manual. well when i picked my car up i only got one key and i didnt even get the romote for the keyless entry. moreover the manual was not there. they said i can pick it up in two days. someone misplaced it. Who knows...maybe the person who test drove my car for 50 miles liked the car so much that he kept my remote and manual souvenirs. "the [non-permissible content removed]"
Jamer85 if you only received one key make sure Ford gives you a second key. The Focus keys have an electric chip that is required to start the car. You need two(2)original keys to make a third key. If you only have one key Ford needs to reprogram the ignition switch which costs about $100 according to my sales guy. I know this because the dealer lost both keys for my car. Eventually found one and had to go through this process before delivering the car to me.
HKOENENZ ........ THANX FOR THIS IMPORTANT INFO I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FIND THE OTHER KEY. WHERE ELSE COULD IT BE? THEY GOT THE CAR WITH 2 KEYS AND ONLY ONE WAS FOUND WHEN I PICKED UP THE CAR. THEY BETTER FIND IT BECAUSE IM NOT PLANNING TO SHELL OUT 100 DOLLARS FOR THERE MISTAKE AND THE INCONVENIENCE OF HAVING MY CAR REPROGRAM. THAT'S ANOTHER WAITING. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS PEOPLE. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE SELLING A BUTTON UP SHIRT THAT IF YOU LOSE ONE BUTTON ANOTHER CAN JUST BE SEWN. WE'LL THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CAR .THE GLITCH IS WITH THE DEALER.
PLEASE SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCE DRIVING IN THE RAIN WITH THE ZX3. I HEAR THIS ANNOYING NOISE WHENEVER I DRIVE OVER A PUDDLE OF WATER. COULD IT BE I NEED TO PLACE A WATER GUARD ON THE FENDER?
I hear the same noise with my ZX3, apparently water hitting the back of the wheel well. It is fairly loud--a noise I had never experienced in a car before.
I noticed that the ZX3 has a feature that I have never seen on any other car - the ZX3 has what appears to be felt liners around the rear wheels, between the body and the tires.
I wonder how these will hold up after lots of miles - seems like they wouldn't be all that strong and long lasting.
I experienced the same noise you guys did...I attribute it to the car's short rear overhang and the fact it is a hatchback. I drove both the sedan and the hatchback before buying, and the sedan had less road noise coming from the back of the car.
Thursday night, I pick up my autumn orange ZX3. I'm so excited to drive it home, and everyone's comments on this board helped solidify my opinion in favor of the ZX3. The first thing I want to do to it is put in a power sunroof this spring or summer. Any suggestions on vendors?
alf3, I saw the same thing on a zx-3 at the dealer. it seemed to be almost the same kind of thin material used to line the trunk area on most cars. I cant imagine why it would be on the "outside" of the car & in the most vunerable area. I wonder, when I get mine, if i scotchguard the crap out of them..would it extend the life? Any other owners out there see anything with this? Has anyone owned one & had driven thru several storms & look at how they weathered???????
Anyone knows where the tire pressures are specified ? The manual says that it is on the rearmost driver side door, but I have not been able to find out what the recommended tire pressure is.
I got my twilight blue ZX3 on Dec 22nd, and have about 3800 miles on it now. Need to go in for an oilchange soon. Great car, handles awesome, and was very comfortable on a 3500 mile trip.
Mileage was on the low side, close to 29-30mpg for mostly highway driving. The advertised mileage is 34 on the highway.
Like everyone else, I hear loud noises from the front right wheel, and both rear wheels when driving thru puddles. Strange, but it does not seem to come from the front driver side wheel. I'd like to use some deadening material to reduce the noise from the engine.. sounds rather agricultural at low speeds.
Overall, its great value for money, very comfortable ride.
Most of my driving is just moving myself and another person--but occasionally I need to throw a canvas or sheet of wood in the back (not terribly large, though--I'm not that out of touch with reality). Anyhow, I'm curious as to what the dimensions of the ZX3 are; I know Edmunds says 18.5 cu. ft, but how does this break down? What's the footprint with the rear seats folded down? Like, say, 3' wide 2' high and 3' deep or so (from the rear)?
I was all set to buy the Focus HB and was really reinforced in my decision after reading all the glowing comments on this listserve. But, elsewhere on this web site Edmunds suggests to get the best value buying a car would be to wait till it is two years old. Seems depreciation is steep as you drive out the door of the dealers. Also, you get a better picture of what can and does go wrong with the auto. I'm interested in the pros and cons of buying new as opposed to buying used. Any thoughts?
By the way - you can search their images database to find several cool foci pictures. I found a Twilight blue pic that has pretty much sold me on that color.
My 'check engine' light went on yesterday and I immediately brought me Focus LX in to the dealer. They had to order a new gas cap and gas valve. Anyone have a similar problem?
I searched the Focus pix for both Europe and NA - I didn't notice the Focus pictured in Twilight Blue. Could you please tell me the image number and if NA or Europe so I can check it out ?? Thanks.
The water noise is high in the sedan as well. I don't know of it is because of the location of the wheel wells or just poor sound insulation. I am glad the car has a fairly decent stereo.
As far as buying new as opposed to used, I say buy new. When you buy a used car, you have bought someone elses driving habits, maintenance habits, etc. Since you are buying a two year old car, it was probably a lease car. People tend not to take as good of care of their cars when they know they are turning them in in just two years. Also, you will probably have to buy an extended warranty from the dealership, just to make sure you don't run into unexpected repair costs. Even then, you may not be covered as well as you would like.
When you buy new, you get the full factory warranty. You take care of the car the way you want to. You can also learn the "personality" of your vehicle. Of course, it does cost more to buy new.
I guess the best way to explain your "check engine" light is "check your gas cap" it needs to be tight.. All new cars with this obdII system on board make the air cleaner but can have some side effects ..with us... mainly "check lights" going off. I suggest you check your gas cap & make sure it is tight. I think you have a sensor that detects the release of "vapors" into the atmosphere & will trigger the light! So, if cap tight, no light!, Good Luck! tmeout!
In regards to "water noise" being heard in the fenderwells, let me offer you a possible, & inexpensive solution. Rubberized undercoating avail at walmart or kmart for about $3.00 to $5.00 per can.I discovered this years ago, when I used to install "high-end" audio systems in cars. All you do is: 1. prop up that side of the car, remove wheel& clean all the dirt & muck in the well..yes I have even used scrubb brushes & my hands to "feel" out any loose material in the well. 2. let dry throughly..this makes it easier to apply & also it will stick better! 3. wrap up, with some newspaper & tape all the suspension components, & brakelines.. cover it so you can spray around them to get full coverage of the well. 4.Shake well, & start spraying! Start with a light coat first..until you got all the area covered..then use the rest to double up on the thickness. This coating will dry & then also deaden the sound from the outside to the inside. I have also used this very successfully to the inside as well. (under the carpet & trunk area etc..) this will seriously kill alot of anynoise as well as make your stock stereo system a bit more responsive,,esp. in the bass area! Good luck. ps i will be doing my entire zx-3 when I get it so Ill let you know how much overall db it lowers!
Hi Everyone! Has anyone bought a car from carorder.com? I'm in the process of buying a ZX3 at a REALLY good price, and am nervous because its all done over the net. Any info on your experiences would be grealy appreciated! Thanks!
Regarding to the missing key problem, when I picked up my zx3 on Dec. 4, I only got one key too, no remote entry control, and no owner's manual. My salesperson told me the missing items weren't shipped with the car. (I can't say I really believe them). I called them a couple of weeks ago and they said they still didn't have my items. It has been over a month and I am getting frustrated. Is this normal for it to take so long? On a couple of side notes: This is my first new car purchase. Does any one know how long it usually takes to get your license plates in California? Also, my sales person said I was probably the first one in the San Francisco Bay Area to own a zx3, are there any other zx3 owners in the Bay Area? Oh, by the way God I love my ZX3!!!
I am cosidering lowering my zx3 and installing 17 inch rims. Does anyone know if after market rims for the Ford zx2 are compatible for the zx3. If they aren't which rims are? Also can anyone tell me what are the pros and cons of lowering your zx3 (besides making the car look coolerand avoiding potholes).
I purchased a sangria red (grey interior) 5 spd ZX-3, (side air bags, remote door locks, anti-lock and air--loaded by ZX-3 standards) and just love it. I agree that it makes an odd noise when the fibrous mudflaps hit water. I believe it resonates. Still, the car is solid, well made and very cool looking. Most of my friends do not appreciate the car much because it is unique looking. I just think it is a great package and a great value. I have noticed that there are very little complaints regarding quality on this site. I think they will sell a ton of these cars soon.
Happy Motoring,
NorwayDoug (I think I have to change my name now that I live in the USA again!)
I too have just placed an order for a zx3 on car order.com. I agree the price is great. Choose to pick-up your car at the selling dealer, so you can inspect it first.I too dont know what to expect.
I wouldn't worry. This company is out to make a name for itself & cant afford to cause any "waves" with the buying public if they are to succeed! indyb, that maybe a good idea to go to the dealer to check out car before picking it up. But also, I have read many a statement that others have had their cars delivered right to your door in pristine condition. Have faith! Its worth the price! If you need any more info on carorder.com look here http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/engaged/edmund.cgi?c=Smart_Shopper&f=0&t=1751 have fun, tmeout!
You state"As far as buying new as opposed to used, I say buy new. When you buy a used car, you have bought someone elses driving habits, maintenance habits, etc. Since you are buying a two year old car, it was probably a lease car. People tend not to take as good of care of their cars when they know they are turning them in in just two years. Also, you will probably have to buy an extended warranty from the dealership, just to make sure you don't run into unexpected repair costs. Even then, you may not be covered as well as you would like.
When you buy new, you get the full factory warranty. You take care of the car the way you want to. You can also learn the "personality" of your vehicle. Of course, it does cost more to buy new." Well, the Focus only has a three year warranty. If you finance for five years you are going to have to purchase an extended warranty anyway??
I did all the above with good results. I purchased used,off lease,and got an extended warranty. Never had a problem. But, I agree with you, it is a crap shoot buying used. Don't misunderstand me, I want to purchase this auto. But, already I see there are going to be options available next month that are not available now. Also, rumors of a six cylinder engine next year??
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The Euro market ZX3s incorporate a backup light, as well as rear fog lamps in the rear bumper. These were probably eliminated in the US due to insurance concerns / replacement costs (my guess).
I just had the exact same problem with my '94 Ranger. They had to bleed the brake line in order for the lights to go off.
I can't remember if they were auto or stick.
With my auto tracer going up a long highway entrance ramp, I had to turn off the air conditioner some times. The auto Focus had plenty of power for me. I had the seat cranked up to the max. I found myself looking over the top of some cars in front of me (neat feeling). I had never seen any pictures of how the rear hatch opened. There is a little well in the trunk, maybe 4 or 5 inches. I was afraid the bottom of the hatch was flush with the floor of the trunk. Open the hatch and your stuff would roll out on the ground. I wish the Focus had an inside fuel door release. I know you can pry those doors open with a screwdriver. But you'd probably know someone did it. Anyone thinking about getting an aftermarket
locking gas cap. I checked out the power windows and tilt steering on a sedan and want both options. I thought the ZX3 felt really tight and sure footed. It took 10 or 20 minutes getting used to sitting so high. I ran over bumps, I could hear them, outside(like it was the car next to me ran over the bump) but not through the car. I was sold. I'll put my order in as soon as all the options are available.
The 2.0 liter zetec motor provides good low end torque and is smooth and quiet. I wish I could get that performance upgrade offered in the ZX2 S/R. It has 140hp and 205/55R 15. It would have been nice if Ford made those options standard on the ZX3.
Does anyone know if the factor will provide ZX3 owners with that chip?
What is your experience with driving the new ZX3?
In addition to transport holdups (which seem to be common everywhere) I'm sure you've heard about the preproduction recalls that stopped some of the production lines for a while.
I tried everything to get mine sooner, but Ford's customer assistance center is less than useless. I just had to bear it. (For a long-winded diatribe on my buying experience, look for my post titled "Diary of a Ford Buyer" a few weeks back in the station wagons topic.)
Finally picked mine up last night, an SE wagon in autumn orange. Have driven all of six miles on it so far, but think I'm going to be very, very happy with it.
Good luck on your purchase; it will be worth the wait.
well our zx3 is still awaiting a left front fender thanks to rudolf the dead [non-permissible content removed] reindeer! the hood and bumper are in as well as grill, lights and radiator supports. while it is in the bodyshop having the repairs done we may just have some customized paint done. can anyone give me any good links to where we could view some custom paint jobs? what the hell the whole front end needs painted anyway... might as well get started. thanks...and a happy and SAFE new year to all!
Here is a major problem our dealership faces on an hourly bases:
We are having trouble geting Beetles with CD players and Aluminum wheels because VW wants us to sell more Jettas and put a stop sale on stocked Beetle orders. Of course everybody gets upset by this. The customer would have to wait a couple of weeks and pay more (service wants money to install it and parts has to pay for this stuff), the sales person can't negotiate a price and can't get aa sale for a couple of weeks till the part comes in, service doesn't work for free and they can't do anything till the part comes in. Parts has to pay for it and get sick reminding everybody everyday that the part is on back order and they have no clue when it is coming or if it works (we frequently get new parts that don't work or are damaged or the catalog gave us the wrong part or the mechanic gave us the wrong info or the wrong part is in the box or we were shorted and have to order another one ect.). This goes for all vehicals and their accessories (i.e. Ford floor mats are one of the worst). The customer gets upset and calls customer service which calls the dealership wondering why we haven't done anything (dealerships for thee most part are not owned by the car company) and we say the part is on back order.
The dealership gets a negative rateing because the customer is upset, which gets the dealership upset especially if the customer no longer wants the part (accessories form Ford are non returnable and the parts departments hate sucking up parts that nobody wants).
The moral of the story is:
Know what you want and know where to get it.
If you don't like the car on the lot, order what you want.
If you are touchy about something (people keep hearing rattles when they are driving on the worst roads in the state and then blame service even though there is nothing service can do), buy a Honda (of course you will be paying through the nose).
Never call customer service because of backordered parts. They won't help (they know the part is on backorder and everyone just has to wait because companies like Ford outsource their stuff so somebody else makes the part and Ford has no direct access to these people (neither do the dealerships). Since you called to complain (that's how customer service sees it) the dealership gets a nasty call. The same goes with unfixable problems (like road noise), stuff that doesn't exist (there are serveral people here that expect our dealership to know how to modify vehicals, especially in the area of transplanting an engine or transmission from one kind of vehical to another).
Thanks for any reply.
PROJECT ZX3..SORRY TO HEAR YOU'RE CAR IS STILL IN THE SHOP. BY THE WAY ...I DID RAISED H.. IN THEIR PLACE. RELENTLESSLY CALLING THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY SINCE THE PROMISED DATE, EARLY DECEMBER. I WAS THE BIGGEST PAIN ON THEIR BUTT AND VERY MUCH VICE VERSA BECAUSE OF BROKEN PROMISES. ANYWAY I WAS TOLD I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT TOMORROW(I HOPE)
THEN I'LL CALL IN SICK ON TUESDAY TO HAVE FUN WITH MY ZX3(HEHEHEHE). I'LL KEEP U GUYS UPDATED OF MY FIRST DATE WITH MY BABY..AND HER NAME IS FOCUS.
(I GUESS I'M GETTING CRAZY)
Will write more later...gotta look at it some more!
Anyway here's the info i need...DOES ANYBODY HERE CAN FOLD THEIR SIDE MIRRORS? BEC I THOUGHT THAT'S HOW I COMES WITH. secondly, IS YOUR INDOOR CEILING LAMP LOCATED BY THE FRONT AREA ONLY OR ARE THERE SUPPOSE TO BE TWO.
OH YEAH...ONE THING THATS BOTHERING...I DIDN'T NOTICE UNTIL I DROVE MY CAR AWAY...IT ALREADY HAS 50 MILES ON IT...WHAT DO YOU GUYS/LADIES THINK?
i'm so happy you finally got your zx3! 50 miles...maybe you raised so much hell the dealership went out and drove it to thier lot instead of waiting for a transport! haha! i wouldn't worry about it..mine had 20 on it. i didn't really have the car long enough to notice any of the features you question. but i did notice one thing on mine...my zx3 doesn't have the lock out latch/knob to go to reverse on the shifter. does yours? i know the one i test drove did. can anyone elaborate on that? on another note... i drove up to my dealership bodyshop and our zx3 is still sitting in the same spot. i could just die. still waiting on parts. i can only imagine how protracted this wait is going to be as it's hard enough to get the car delivered. everyone please say a prayer for us. it can't hurt and we sure would appreciate it.
2) Only one dome light in front
3) When I picked up my car all the papers I said the car had 34 miles on it. When I sat down I noticed 236 miles. And since it had taken over 2 hours to take delivery I was not going to go back to redo the paperwork. I assume the dealer got it with 34 miles and others test drove it before me. Thats what you get buying of the lot.
Anyone know what their state law is that defines when a car is called a "demo" after so many miles?
UNTIL THEN, THANX FOR THE INFOS
I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FIND THE OTHER KEY. WHERE ELSE COULD IT BE? THEY GOT THE CAR WITH 2 KEYS AND ONLY ONE WAS FOUND WHEN I PICKED UP THE CAR. THEY BETTER FIND IT BECAUSE IM NOT PLANNING TO SHELL OUT 100 DOLLARS FOR THERE MISTAKE AND THE INCONVENIENCE OF HAVING MY CAR REPROGRAM.
THAT'S ANOTHER WAITING. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS PEOPLE. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE SELLING A BUTTON UP SHIRT THAT IF YOU LOSE ONE BUTTON ANOTHER CAN JUST BE SEWN. WE'LL THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CAR .THE GLITCH IS WITH THE DEALER.
I wonder how these will hold up after lots of miles - seems like they wouldn't be all that strong and long lasting.
& look at how they weathered???????
I got my twilight blue ZX3 on Dec 22nd, and have about 3800 miles on it now. Need to go in for an oilchange soon. Great car, handles awesome, and was very comfortable on a 3500 mile trip.
Mileage was on the low side, close to 29-30mpg for mostly highway driving. The advertised mileage is 34 on the highway.
Like everyone else, I hear loud noises from the front right wheel, and both rear wheels when driving thru puddles. Strange, but it does not seem to come from the front driver side wheel.
I'd like to use some deadening material to reduce the noise from the engine.. sounds rather agricultural at low speeds.
Overall, its great value for money, very comfortable ride.
http://www.detnews.com/autosweekly/0001/05/talk/talk.htm
I'm interested in the pros and cons of buying new as opposed to buying used.
Any thoughts?
Focus Dec Sales: 20,281
Focus Year To Date 55,846
Pretty cool!
By the way - you can search their images database to find several cool foci pictures. I found a Twilight blue pic that has pretty much sold me on that color.
As far as buying new as opposed to used, I say buy new. When you buy a used car, you have bought someone elses driving habits, maintenance habits, etc. Since you are buying a two year old car, it was probably a lease car. People tend not to take as good of care of their cars when they know they are turning them in in just two years. Also, you will probably have to buy an extended warranty from the dealership, just to make sure you don't run into unexpected repair costs. Even then, you may not be covered as well as you would like.
When you buy new, you get the full factory warranty. You take care of the car the way you want to. You can also learn the "personality" of your vehicle. Of course, it does cost more to buy new.
That's all for now.
1. prop up that side of the car, remove wheel& clean all the dirt & muck in the well..yes I have even used scrubb brushes & my hands to "feel" out any loose material in the well.
2. let dry throughly..this makes it easier to apply & also it will stick better!
3. wrap up, with some newspaper & tape all the suspension components, & brakelines.. cover it so you can spray around them to get full coverage of the well.
4.Shake well, & start spraying! Start with a light coat first..until you got all the area covered..then use the rest to double up on the thickness.
This coating will dry & then also deaden the sound from the outside to the inside. I have also used this very successfully to the inside as well. (under the carpet & trunk area etc..) this will seriously kill alot of anynoise as well as make your stock stereo system a bit more responsive,,esp. in the bass area!
Good luck. ps i will be doing my entire zx-3 when I get it so Ill let you know how much overall db it lowers!
Click Current Products , and you'll see Focus over on the right. 60 images in all.
The twilight blue is the 7th one down.
Enjoy!
Happy Motoring,
NorwayDoug (I think I have to change my name now that I live in the USA again!)
new. When you buy a used car, you have bought
someone elses driving habits, maintenance habits,
etc. Since you are buying a two year old car, it
was probably a lease car. People tend not to take
as good of care of their cars when they know they
are turning them in in just two years. Also, you
will probably have to buy an extended warranty from
the dealership, just to make sure you don't run
into unexpected repair costs. Even then, you may
not be covered as well as you would like.
When you buy new, you get the full factory
warranty. You take care of the car the way you
want to. You can also learn the "personality" of
your vehicle. Of course, it does cost more to buy
new."
Well, the Focus only has a three year warranty. If you finance for five years you are going to have to purchase an extended warranty anyway??
I did all the above with good results. I purchased used,off lease,and got an extended warranty. Never had a problem.
But, I agree with you, it is a crap shoot buying used. Don't misunderstand me, I want to purchase this auto. But, already I see there are going to be options available next month that are not available now. Also, rumors of a six cylinder engine next year??