Chevy Tahoe Battery Problems
raleighwolf
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I have a 2007 Suburban LTZ. One of the main reasons I purchased this vehicle was to tailgate. However, every time I leave the radio on and the doors open, even with the dome lights off, the battery drains to a point of needing a jump.
The battery tests out fine.
The local dealer says that the iPod would drain it and that the LTZ's have a lot of "modules" that stay on when the key is in the ignition. They say there is nothing they can do to help.
I think that is crazy! or incredibly poor design!
Anyone else have insight?
The battery tests out fine.
The local dealer says that the iPod would drain it and that the LTZ's have a lot of "modules" that stay on when the key is in the ignition. They say there is nothing they can do to help.
I think that is crazy! or incredibly poor design!
Anyone else have insight?
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We have a '07 Suburban and have had the battery drain twice and had to jump start it. I was trying to decide if we had a marginal battery or what. One time the kids were watching a DVD in the driveway, another time I was parked on the side of the road with the flashers on. Next time I'm in the dealer I'll have them check the battery. Are you going to have it checked out? We have the Nav-radio set-up, not sure if that means anything...
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Gregg
Boston, Mass
He said once they know your going to lemon the suv out that they will change the invoice on the repair order. I'm trying to Lemon this Tahoe out, I have not tried used my dvd since this my battery went dead a few months ago.
Its ashame because every weekend I going snowboarding and my kids want to watch a movie, but afraid that my battery will go dead there is no Chevrolet dealership there to fix my Tahoe. :lemon:
If everyone just [non-permissible content removed] about and doesn't do anything, then your just as bad as they are. I hope you dont have anymore problem with your denali.
I took the Tahoe to the dealer today and they told me it's an ECM issue and they reprogramed. It makes sense because the ECM is suppose to monitor current draw and shut the electrical system down if it's draining the battery. The ECM also had a recall and they took care of that. I also had them check on the brakes since they squeak terribly and they said they cleaned the rotor and pads.
I will say if your battery goes dead again I would report it to GM and B.B keep me updated
Shan
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Shan
http://www.alldata.com/tsb/General-Motors/1161241200000_1163145600000_06-06-03-0- 09/603009.html
Shan
Two dealers gave me the run-around and failed to admit there was a problem with the battery on the 07. One dealer even did a load test on my battery, even though I was 40 points below the published threshold, they still declined to change out the battery.
The third dealer I went to leveled with me - apparently there IS some sort of a major battery issue going on with the Tahoe and they do not have replacements readily available. This dealer was kind enough to provide me with a 7/60 AC Delco battery after they confirmed I had a few dead cells with my current battery.
After arriving home, I left the navigation system turned on with the car off -- the car turned over without a problem. It's a miracle!
http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/626
The design and manufacturing flaws that I have seen and experienced in my Tahoe batteries are numerous. Quality is not JOB-1 at Delco.
No battery should be designed with sidewall terminals. It's just common sense - liquid leaks out of the cracks and poor seals at the sidewall terminal locations. There are a disproportionately large number of leaks and other problems from these Delco side terminal battery.
This is why all other automotive batteries are designed with terminals on top of the battery.
Why does it take GM so long to fix a problem?
Both times it was towed to the dealership who did a complete electrical system check, with nothing found to be wrong. Including the battery (After the first time they replaced the battery upon my insistence). Two batteries in two months on a three month old vehicle.
Each time this occurred, I received an Email from GM Onstar telling me that my vehicle is A-OK literally the day before the dead battery. It's the Onstar feature that sends you updates on your vehicle. Could the communications that occurs up to the satellite be leaving something "on" that drains it overnight, I must wonder?
The Hoe is in GM Goodwrench's hands and I mentioned this to them. They've very interested in this observation, claiming they've seen this in several others with no explanation, and they are keeping my vehicle a couple days to test out that theory. I'll let you know how that goes. In the mean time, has anyone else been experiencing this?
Got the vehicle home today. Mr Goodwrench says they can't schedule an add-hock vehicle system check from On-Star so we have to wait until the day before our next auto-scheduled On-Star check will occur. The dealership is gonna take the vehicle in the day before our next checkup to put it on monitors and see if the check up is what causes the sickness. They talked with the On-Star folks who admit this crazy theory is actually possible. Will update in a month, and let you know the TSB number this creates...
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Make sure you document EVERYTHING relating to this problem. Write it down, everything, in case they try to fight you. Check your state laws to find out exactly what proof is needed. You can't be too careful on t his matter.
Joe
Starts fine no matter how long it sits. I went thru the hole bit at 1200 miles when van would not start after sitting for a couple few days.Dealer had all day an said can't find problem. Says has state of the art equipment. I say do you have anybody knows how to use? Cause won't start. I had fully charged batt before taking to dealer and stopped at batteries plus on the way. I had him do free load test and said was no good then dropped off at dealer. What a hassle. After dealer said everythings fine I stopped at batt plus again and told him I need to check again , thinking might not have been fully charged first stop. he told me same thing that it should not be dropping so fast on load test and batt no good. So was total waste of precious time cause 2 days later she would not start again.It was such a hassle I decided to put this old battery in and did not have any trouble after about a months time. So i call dealer and told i want new batt and after a bunch of crap got a replacement of same kind ac delco and after several months had same problem again.Must be a bad lot of batteries from ac delco cause after i put that old spare 60$ battery in no troubles. My wife has no trouble with her ac delco and hers is 01 model. Called roadside assistance one time when would't start and he said to me you can throw all these delcos in the trash. Guess he's seen alot of bad ones. After thinking about it system draws can be very hard to diagnose. One cheap and easy way to tell if draw or batt is to make sure is fully charged and disconnect cable and leave sit if no juice when connect and try start it is batt. If starts must have been something drawing current. Or just try new battery. I am glad in my case that was problem . I hope thats all thats wrong with yours. service is terrible now days.Very few good techs.
I haven't had any problems with the battery since I put it in. I hope that the problem was just the old battery couldn't hold a charge. It was only about 3 years old.
It's been a couple of months now since I put the new battery in and I haven't had any problems with starting.
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On the previous few months, we woke up early in the AM on the 21st with a message from Onstar about the diagnostics. My suspicion is that they ran the test 12 to 14 hours before the email went out to us with results. At that time, those months, the Hoe was sitting in my garage not used. If "something" was left on, it had maybe 14 to 16 hours to run down before we tried to start it and found it completely dead. This month, however, we got the email from Onstar about 12 hours early: in the afternoon on the 20th. Well, because of that timing, I had the Hoe at work and a couple hours after we got the email (maybe 3 hours) I had to start the vehicle in order to drive home. If something was left on, it didn't have that 14 to 16 hours to remain on without the alternator charging it back up, or even more likely, for the starting of the engine to reset whatever was left on. So the problem didn't show up this month.
Which gets me thinking about all those who don't see this problem: could it be that the timing of when the test is run as it compares to how long the vehicle sits after the test before being started. Surely Onstar has to stagger their tests. Maybe our first few months were plagued with problems due to timing of the test and how long it sat idle afterwards? Maybe we won't see it again until the natural cycle of timing comes back around to them running the tests after I get home from work for the night? Certainly if they ran the test during a several day long period of vehicle inactivity, this would fit the mold too.
And more importantly, can't I (and possibly you) avoid this all together if I cancel Onstar? I mean, if they aren't running checks in the middle of the night, it doesn't seem like I have the problem. After all, if I need an email to tell me when it's time to change my oil, well, maybe I should be driving a Mercedes.
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Onstar will never admit their diagnostic tests have anything to do with your battery going dead. Cancel your Onstar service and your problem will go away.
I have not had my first monthly diagnostic and email, so I will be on the lookout and will track when these things occur. I've also put a set of jumper cables in the back, just in case.
Thanks for the 'heads up' on this potential problem.
Called GM customer service and asked for a tech person and was told I could not be given straight to tech so I had to give this person that couldn't speak english all the information I had gathered only to be told he couldn't help and would have to transfer me to a tech. The Tech got on the line and told me he was sorry to hear my truck was cutting out on me. (The fist guy also couldn't understand english) This person was very helpful and concerned, check history for other onstar problem and found nothing! Told him about the test I was going to run and he told me he would call me Tuesday for the results of my testing and what further action my dealer would be taking. Talked with my service manager today and they are going to call GM and Onstar and we sat and made up a list of questions and concerns for onstar to include the content of the commands and the systems effected. I recommend everyone call onstar just to let them know you have a problem and call GM customer service 800-222-1020 GM tech 866-790-5600. I am real pleased with the efforts my dealership is putting into this (Whitlow Chevrolet in Richmond, VA.) Have also Though of possible bad batch of Onstar interface Modules.
And guess what, it died on car wash line. How embarassed do you think I was because they couldn't get it moved. It was holding up the whole line up. So I call "my lovely Onstar", and setup the roadside assistance. After I got off of the phone with them(~15 minutes), something told me to try it again. For some reason it started rght up.
Now that's 3 times. I'm a little upset to say the least. I feel like we are paying too much for this vehicle not be reliable, and having to log around a battery jumper. If anybody finds out what's causing the problem please let me know.
Subject: Service Update for Inventory and Customer Vehicles-Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) Inoperative and Battery Rundown-Expires with Base Warranty #07007B - (02/13/2007) Models: 2007 Chevrolet Avalanche, Equinox, Suburban, Tahoe
This bulletin provides a service procedure for reprogramming the remote control door lock receiver (RCDLR) and the remote keyless entry transmitter (FOB) on certain 2006-2007 Buick Lucerne; 2006-2007 Cadillac DTS; 2007 Cadillac Escalade, Escalade ESV, Escalade EXT, SRX; 2006-2007 Chevrolet Impala, Monte Carlo; 2007 Chevrolet Avalanche, Equinox, Suburban, Tahoe; 2007 GMC Yukon, Yukon XL; and 2007 Pontiac Torrent vehicles. On these vehicles, the RKE may become inoperative. Also, for the 2007 Cadillac Escalade, Escalade ESV, Escalade EXT; Chevrolet Avalanche, Suburban, Tahoe; and GMC Yukon, Yukon XL vehicles (GMT900 Utility) only, this bulletin provides a service procedure for reprogramming the body control module (BCM). On these vehicles, and under certain conditions such as operating the radio with the engine off, the battery can become discharged, preventing engine start-up. Customer vehicles that return for service, for any reason, and are still covered under the vehicle's base warranty, and are within the VIN breakpoints provided below, should be checked for vehicle eligibility in the appropriate system listed below. Year Division Model From Through 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe 7J177482 7J270240 7R205597 7R297218 Important: Dealers are to confirm vehicle eligibility prior to beginning repairs by using GMVIS. Not all vehicles within the above breakpoints may be involved. Important: This bulletin contains two reprogramming procedures, 1) reprogramming of the BCM, and 2) reprogramming of the RCDLR. Not all vehicles require reprogramming of both. • The Cadillac Escalade, Escalade ESV, Escalade EXT; Chevrolet Avalanche, Suburban, Tahoe; and GMC Yukon and Yukon XL vehicles require the BCM and RCDLR reprogramming.
Something is draining the battery down to about 9 volts, enough to start the truck.
All electical systems apper to work, it is just something is drawing a large amout of current when the verchicle is turned off. So much so, that even after a couple of hour trip (plently of time to chagre a battery), If I turn the vechicle off and then turn the ignition on, I will see the voltmeter on the dash slow drop down to arounf the 9 volt level.
I don't beleive it is the alternator as I have had it checked. It is not the battery as I have replaced it and the new one is doing the same thing.
All fuses are the correct size and non are blowing.
I think it is associated with an accessory as if I have a volt metter on the battery, the votage will drop when I open the door (understadable as there are lights on) and after about 20sec, when the lights go off it starts to rise. A short time latter there is another jump in the votage reading. Once when I was in the truck I heard a click at the time the second voltage rise.
I beleive there is an accessory timer that turns off everything if left on. Does anyone know where this relay is? if it is easy to get at and does not control two much I would like to pull it to see if it stops the voltage drop.
I also noticed that if I pull the 'tpc bat' fuse (10A), it stops the voltage drop.
Becase the battery does not go completely dead, I am figuring that what ever is pulling the current to drop the voltage has to be on a timer of some description.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Caniwi