Any response to this one? I'm shooting for a GLX 4motion wagon and wondering my best price... I'm seeing a start offer of 28,900 or so locally -- not too bad but wondering if we can go another 2k lower (buy point!).
What's the best way to utilize the $1000 loyalty rebate? Use it to decrease the negotiated selling price? And, if not used towards the purchase price, how do you go about submitting it to VW?
Are you asking how you go about getting the cash from VW if the $1000 is not used towards the purchase of a new car? I doubt VW would send a $1000 check. I believe that you would need to use the $ towards the lease or purchase of a new car.
Thanks fish8 for the answer. I was trying to understand if I can bargin the purchase price down to acceptable levels, play dumb on the loyalty rebate, and at end pull it out to bring the price 1k lower. Or, don't mention it at all, then wait for rebate directly from VW.
Well, from my experience the dealers usually tell you up front of all the rebates available to get you more interested in the purchase especially if you are a current owner.
OMG Chrisbgood $28900 for a glx 4motion wagon? Thats like $5300 below MSRP. And your looking to go $2000 lower? Tell me where you live and where you got that offer and I'll be on the next flight over to pick up my new car.
My Wife and I ordered a 2005 Passat TDI in July and just took delivery. It's a GLS, Cold Weather Package, ESP, Leather/wood Package, Reflex Silver, Gray Interior. It's a sweet car, I try to find any excuse to drive It. We went to Heritage Volkswagen Union City, Georgia and received $1,000 below MSRP.
This is the best deal that I could find in the whole state and also trying to use the car buying services. I would recommend this car to anyone. I'm averaging about 35-40 MPG. Couldn't be more pleased.
you'd have to pry it from my wifes hands (and she'd be dead before she'd let it go). We bought it at the before stated price -- Capital Cities in the Albany NY area. Too good a deal on a brand new GLX wagon. (w/4motion!)
Just bought a new 2004 GL Wagon with AT, Cold Weather and Monsoon for 19,124 + TTL at Hatfield VW in Columbus, OH. Invoice is 23,003 and there was 3,500 in dealer cash in lieu of the 0% financing.
How good is this deal? (All the dealers here in Cincinnati were trying to tack on about $500 in advertising fees, port fees, etc. - shown on their "official" invoice).
Hatfield is highly recommended - great buying experience and very professional salespeople.
We just got a 2004 GLS sedan with leather, cold weather for $21800 + TTL at Ganley in North Olmsted, Ohio.
The experience was great. I had called a few people who wouldn't talk money over the phone. I called Ganley and told them I knew what I wanted and didn't want to waste any time coming in. I said I have the Edmunds TMV and the salesman said- how much is it? Then I told him about VW incentives and he just took off the money faxed me a contract and we had the car in two days. The whole experience took 2 hours to pick up our car and do a trade-in.
My wife and I just purchased a 2004 GLX 4-Motion Wagon, Samoa Red with Beige Leather, for $28,993.00 + TTL.
I was also able to get them to throw in 2 barracuda bike racks and a set of cargo bars on which to mount them, for an additional $200.
By my estimation, I paid approximately $2,000 below dealer invoice, leaving the dealer with a cash profit of approximately $2,050.00 (after factoring in holdback and factory to dealer cash).
Hi uwe - You can visit our Rebates & Incentives page to find current offers. When you click on that link, offers for my ZIP code will show up, so be sure to enter your own ZIP code to see the offers available in your area.
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ok....what's the deal with dealer asking for sticker price on the Passat TDI trying to tell me its my lucky day that they will not ask for anymore that sticker???? ....BS .... thats what I wanted to tell the sales manager, are you kidding me???I said. He said its my call and he acted as if he didn't have the time to waste since its a "TDI". I am sorry people but this CRAP has to stop. I nearly told him you'r lucky I am back here again after my 2001 Jetta gave me SOOOOO much trouble and I am still trying to buy a VW product....all my family are driving Japanese products and have No proplem. For people out there STOP paying sticker for the TDI you are spoiling it for the rest of us.....sorry i had to vent Wolf
Right on, brother !!! Living in Texas, I can't believe people are paying sticker for the car since diesel has such a bad rap here. When I went to the dealership, they intimated that they would discount the thing by $1000-$1500 bucks.
My belief has been they have limited the production to increase demand for the car. The car is selling around 5,000 to 6,000 dollars more than a 4 cylinder Passat.
I nearly told him you'r lucky I am back here again after my 2001 Jetta gave me SOOOOO much trouble and I am still trying to buy a VW product....
Well, your post just illustrates that they are not "lucky" at all - if they're selling them at sticker and still can't keep them in stock, they don't need your business.
Now, anyone have an experience where they actually purchased the vehicle?
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Purchased for $33,700 + tax&tags. Sticker $41,700 Wes Greenway in Alexandria, Va. Great deal, nice guys. Pick up this weekend. Only issue was front brakes were warped and they are now replacing entire front brake system. Car had 60 miles on it. It sat in the showroom for most of the year. They are making me very happy with the service from the beginning. Rare for a dealership. I would recommend them highly. CAN'T WAIT FOR THE WEEKEND!!
What is the lowest price you are getting for a GLS 1.8t with manual or automatic (ESP) and no options? From a Northern Virginia dealership, I have a quote for $19,600 (manual) including freight - good?
I went shopping for a Passat GL with manual transmission and ended up buying a GL TDI wagon with all available options. The dealer wanted $2,400 over sticker. After 5 hours on the lot, the dealer wouldn't budge on the TDI's price, but upped the offer on my trade-in by $2,500. I had researched the value of my trade-in on Edmunds' and Kelly's web sites, and their original offer on my trade-in was actually very fair. Thus, I figure I managed to get the TDI for $100 under sticker price. Nothing to brag about. But, I don't feel like I got the shaft either.
Not sure. All I know is the car sat in their showroom for most of the last year, over 300 days. I drove it and new immediately. I am aware some people had issues with the rotors. We'll see soon.. Anyway we pick it up tomorrow. Any other W8 owners out there??
I just purchased my first Volkswagen on Thursday...a Northern Green GLX wagon. After a lot of research trying to decide what would be a good next car, neither of us like SUV's too much, we decided on a wagon for a couple of reasons. We needed some additional utility in our next vehicle to accomodate our various hobbies (Astronomy, Biking, and Camping primarily) and I something that had a certain amount of "luxury" in it since I am in a business that causes people to, unfortunately, judge me and my ability, by the type of car that I drive. We looked at the Passat, Mazda 6, and Volvo V50. The Mazda had a nice engine but the interior was definitely a level below the other two and the V50 was just too darn expensive as far as I was concerned. The Passat seemed to be "just right". I was able to get the car for $26,300 which I figure was a decent price. I was originally ready to get a Silverstone but when I saw the Northern Green I was sold. So far I love the car. It has enough power and the build quality is very good and the handling is nice. We got the Anthracite interior and it really looks good against the green exterior. My wife who is 5 feet tall, 13 inches shorter than me, has no problem adjusting the seat/steering wheel to her liking. Overall I am very pleased with everyting so far.
I just purchased a 2004 Passat 1.8T GLS Automatic with Leather/wood with MSRP of $27,095 and TMV of $25,269 for $21,999 + tax/fees. They would not budge on giving the $1000 customer loyalty because after 9 years I gave my old Jetta to my brother one month before and no longer had the title in my name. We were not able to use the 0.0% financing at this price, but did use the credit union for 4% financing with nothing down for 60 mos. We bought it from Dirito Brothers in Walnut Creek, CA and the salesman described their dealership as the "Costco" of car sales.
Another dealer tried to make us feel like we were putting them out of business for asking for a price lower than their offer of $24,234 for the same car without the leather package. In fact the salesperson tried to get us to pay sticker until I pulled out the Edmunds printouts. She stated that the information I had from Edmunds on the $2500 dealer incentive was not accurate because it's based on information from "spies." Those spies helped us avoid giving them too much money, so thanks to all you spies out there! I figure we saved $300 (taking into account interest) and got a $1900 package upgrade on top of it.
I purchased a 2004 Passat GLS 5 speed manual, leatherette interior, ESP for 2K under invoice. The out the door price was $22,769. I feel this is about as good of a deal that I could have received. The car was not a demo - it had only about 20 miles. I bought the car at a dealer in Tacoma WA.
Incidentally I was offered a 2005 Passat at $100 over invoice. To me the $2100 savings for essentially the same car was worth excepting a one year older model year.
I thought about buying a 2004 Saab 9-3 linear, the discount was also good but would of cost me roughly $3500 - $4000 more.
japher You made the right choice. the Nov. 04' Consumer Reports magazine rates the Passat well above the Saab, although it is the 6 cyl. Passat. Personally I prefer the 1.8T.
So, in looking at this, is the $3,000 "marketing $$" still available to the dealer, (as listed on this site)? I am looking to get an '05 GLS 4 Motion wagon, manual and am wondering what I should expect to pay. I will finance it through my credit union so I just want the best out-the-door deal. I am up in the Boston area, so I guess that may play a part in this?
The marketing support is only available on the 2004 models. For an 04, you should be able to get $5 - $6K off of MSRP (check Quirk VW ads in the Sunday Globe, or look at their site online)
For 05 pricing, check carsdirect.com. Your car is quoted at $26.3K. For comparison, an 04 GLX 4motion wagon is available for $28.5K. Keep in mind that a dealer should beat this price. In my case, Quirk beat the carsdirect price by just over $1k.
Quirk VW had an ad in the Boston Globe (this past Sunday) advertising a 2004 VW Passat for $16999. I'm sure this is a manual, and assume they are throwing in the $1k VW loyalty discount. Are there any additional incentives they are throwing in that I am not aware of? I would call them, but they are closed. Any thoughts?
I am sure the $16,999 price is for a Passat GL. Which would still be a tremendous deal!!!! Depending on where you live, there could be up to $2500 in incentives. I am sure dealers are willing to wheel and deal on leftover 2004's.
When they brought the car around ... it had a hanging tag that said "The dealer has added pinstriping for $195." I said there was no way I was paying for it. They took it off the price.
I literally bought the only TDI wagon for sale in the 5 dealerships in Houston. I had no leverage.
We just got our first VW wagon for $23,250+fees in bay area, CA. Thanks for all the info people are willing to share in this forum so that we really know what to expect when we negotiate.
Just a thought on the loyalty incentive...we are just getting ready to buy a 2004 passat GL wagon and my husband owned a 1985 Quantum which was totalled by a drunk driver in 1999, they dealer here in KS just required us to get proof that the car was once registered to my husband. It meant a little leg work getting the registration record from the state and a $6 fee, but worth it to get the price that we wanted. You may approach the finance manager about this if it isn't too late. Good luck!
Got it for about 27000 or so and they threw in window tinting. Black on black. It was the only manual on the lot. Financing at 1.9, since I did not put anything down and with the resale value I am now not upsidedown in payments. Moved and tried to sell the car this year for about $1000 below kelly but got very very few lookers. Guess I am OK with that since I really like the car anyway. Best things about the car, solid, fine fit and finish, great resale if you can get anyone to look at it.
I just bought a GLS 1.8T automatic, year 2005 for 23.000 at 3.9%. It's my first experience with VW. Before, I had an Acura Integra. Even though the driving is great, I'm kind of worried because of all the bad things about VW people keep telling me since I have the car. I also bought extended warranty platinum 7 years/ 100.000 miles for $ 1,863. I found it kind of expensive and I am thinking to cancel it. I have 60 days to do so. Can someone tell me if it is a good idea to cancel it. Tonite
Keep the warranty, keep the car for 7 years, and enjoy a great ride. The Passat is the best car for the money I've owned in over 40 years of car ownership. It does everything I want a car to do. It gets great mileage, rides and handles well, is quiet, and puts a smile on my face every time I park it and look back over my shoulder. It may not be as reliable as some other brands, but it sure is enjoyable. If VW made a more reliable vehicle, they would own the market. I also owned an Integra. It was fun to drive, and very reliable, but the Passat is a class above for driveability. I thought VW was offering 0% financing on 05's.
Finalizing my order on a 2005 Passat TDI GLS Wagon. Does anyone have any opinion on the improved ride or looks that the 17 inch wheels give? Full-boat on options and will get it for 1/2-way between invoice and sticker...
Can you tell what the difference is between '04 & '05 GLS?? The best price I gotten so far on a '04 GLS AWD automatic was $24K. Am I being ripped off??
The dealer here in New Orleans quoted me $25,000 for a fully loaded 2004 GLX Passat (V6). I think you're supposed to subtract 3500 from invoice for a 4motion car and 2000 for a front wheel drive car.
After so many months of deciding to buy a new car, I finally took the plunge and I picked up my new 2004 GLS Automatic 1.8T VW Passat on Sept. 03, 2004. It has grey leather interior/wood package and I paid $24,514; color Shadow Blue with only 12 miles on it. The dealer is located in Bayside, NY. If you are on the market for this car and you live in the NY area, give them a call. They are wonderful and did not give me any hassles (like others that I personally visited).
I love my car and all I can say it is very comfortable, elegant looking and I enjoy driving it (especially with that Monsoon sound radio).
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Thanks fish8 for the answer. I was trying to understand if I can bargin the purchase price down to acceptable levels, play dumb on the loyalty rebate, and at end pull it out to bring the price 1k lower. Or, don't mention it at all, then wait for rebate directly from VW.
Do you currently own a VW?
below MSRP.
This is the best deal that I could find in the whole state and also trying to use the car buying services. I would recommend this car to anyone. I'm averaging about 35-40 MPG. Couldn't be more pleased.
How good is this deal? (All the dealers here in Cincinnati were trying to tack on about $500 in advertising fees, port fees, etc. - shown on their "official" invoice).
Hatfield is highly recommended - great buying experience and very professional salespeople.
The experience was great. I had called a few people who wouldn't talk money over the phone. I called Ganley and told them I knew what I wanted and didn't want to waste any time coming in. I said I have the Edmunds TMV and the salesman said- how much is it? Then I told him about VW incentives and he just took off the money faxed me a contract and we had the car in two days. The whole experience took 2 hours to pick up our car and do a trade-in.
K.
I was also able to get them to throw in 2 barracuda bike racks and a set of cargo bars on which to mount them, for an additional $200.
By my estimation, I paid approximately $2,000 below dealer invoice, leaving the dealer with a cash profit of approximately $2,050.00 (after factoring in holdback and factory to dealer cash).
Are my calculations right? Was this a good deal?
I am planning to purchase a 2004 or 2005 Passat TDI Wagon. How do I get to know the VW incentives?
Thank you,
Uwe
You can visit our Rebates & Incentives page to find current offers. When you click on that link, offers for my ZIP code will show up, so be sure to enter your own ZIP code to see the offers available in your area.
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My belief has been they have limited the production to increase demand for the car. The car is selling around 5,000 to 6,000 dollars more than a 4 cylinder Passat.
Good luck with your one man crusade.
Well, your post just illustrates that they are not "lucky" at all - if they're selling them at sticker and still can't keep them in stock, they don't need your business.
Now, anyone have an experience where they actually purchased the vehicle?
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Any other W8 owners out there??
I just purchased my first Volkswagen on Thursday...a Northern Green GLX wagon. After a lot of research trying to decide what would be a good next car, neither of us like SUV's too much, we decided on a wagon for a couple of reasons. We needed some additional utility in our next vehicle to accomodate our various hobbies (Astronomy, Biking, and Camping primarily) and I something that had a certain amount of "luxury" in it since I am in a business that causes people to, unfortunately, judge me and my ability, by the type of car that I drive. We looked at the Passat, Mazda 6, and Volvo V50. The Mazda had a nice engine but the interior was definitely a level below the other two and the V50 was just too darn expensive as far as I was concerned. The Passat seemed to be "just right". I was able to get the car for $26,300 which I figure was a decent price. I was originally ready to get a Silverstone but when I saw the Northern Green I was sold. So far I love the car. It has enough power and the build quality is very good and the handling is nice. We got the Anthracite interior and it really looks good against the green exterior. My wife who is 5 feet tall, 13 inches shorter than me, has no problem adjusting the seat/steering wheel to her liking. Overall I am very pleased with everyting so far.
Another dealer tried to make us feel like we were putting them out of business for asking for a price lower than their offer of $24,234 for the same car without the leather package. In fact the salesperson tried to get us to pay sticker until I pulled out the Edmunds printouts. She stated that the information I had from Edmunds on the $2500 dealer incentive was not accurate because it's based on information from "spies." Those spies helped us avoid giving them too much money, so thanks to all you spies out there! I figure we saved $300 (taking into account interest) and got a $1900 package upgrade on top of it.
It's way under sticker, am I missing something?
Thanks for any info,
Andy
Incidentally I was offered a 2005 Passat at $100 over invoice. To me the $2100 savings for essentially the same car was worth excepting a one year older model year.
I thought about buying a 2004 Saab 9-3 linear, the discount was also good but would of cost me roughly $3500 - $4000 more.
You made the right choice. the Nov. 04' Consumer Reports magazine rates the Passat well above the Saab, although it is the 6 cyl. Passat.
Personally I prefer the 1.8T.
Thanks in advance for any help.
For 05 pricing, check carsdirect.com. Your car is quoted at $26.3K. For comparison, an 04 GLX 4motion wagon is available for $28.5K. Keep in mind that a dealer should beat this price. In my case, Quirk beat the carsdirect price by just over $1k.
I literally bought the only TDI wagon for sale in the 5 dealerships in Houston. I had no leverage.
You may approach the finance manager about this if it isn't too late.
Good luck!
Even though the driving is great, I'm kind of worried because of all the bad things about VW people keep telling me since I have the car.
I also bought extended warranty platinum 7 years/ 100.000 miles for $ 1,863. I found it kind of expensive and I am thinking to cancel it. I have 60 days to do so. Can someone tell me if it is a good idea to cancel it.
Tonite
I thought VW was offering 0% financing on 05's.
I love my car and all I can say it is very comfortable, elegant looking and I enjoy driving it (especially with that Monsoon sound radio).
I absolutely love it!
Looking for pricing on a 2005 GLX automatic in the Chicago area. Thanks in advance.