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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Something definitely seems fishy here.
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2015 Kia Soul, 2021 Subaru Forester (kirstie_h), 2024 GMC Sierra 1500 (mr. kirstie_h)
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Now for the "new" car ... 2008 Honda CRV EX-L with Nav. 32,000 miles Burgundy. Independent Dealer wants 22000 for it.
In Pittsburgh.
Also, would I be crazy to consider a 2004 Lexus RX with close to 100K miles?
FWIW the 3MZ engine hasn't had any major issues, like the 1MZ did.
Alright... I'm going to post a "trick" if you will. If this is inappropriate, please let me know.
If you really really don't want to pay the autocheck fee (I highly recommend the unlimited VINs for $45, personally, when you are in the midst of car shopping), you can create an ad on Ebay. Ebay offers free car listings for local ads. You only get something like your first 5 or 6 free, so use it sparingly. They provide a free autocheck report when you post the ad. Yes, you really do have to post it, but then you just take it down immediately after getting the report. Is it dishonest? Yeah, I guess. But you are limited on your ads, so, in a way, they are giving it to you the free ads and it is up to you what to do with them. You will just have one less free one if you use it for this purpose.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
$6k trade is more in line with a Subie with no accident history. It is really really difficult for me to say what you'll be offered for yours without seeing it in person. I think you'll just have to shop it around and see what happens. Frankly, I think taking $6k for the car is a mistake. That's alot of car for the money. If nothing else, why not sell it yourself? That would probably be easier with a stick... but the right buyer still might award you like $7k-$7500 for it.
If that CRV checks out, that's actually a good price for one with Navi. It would probably fetch around $19k-$19500 at auction if its real nice. Have it checked over, look for good tires, brakes, etc ... the usual.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I'd probably try that, BUT... the story is sounding more & more fishy to me. If this guy bought it at auction, he should have some paperwork to prove it.
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Please let me know what the final actual trade ends up being..
I know what my answer would be...
Cheers -Mathias
I guess if you don't want an American sedan or a large American SUV what are the smart buys on the used front? Sadly, I don't think there are many out there right now. We really want a small AWD SUV. I am afraid of an Escape since they have been around for so long.
New CRVs have gotten ridiculously expensive.
According to TrueCar, a 2012 LX AWD is a bit over $24k. A 2012 Forester 2.5X Premium is a hair under $23k, FYI.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Thanks for your help though!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Outlander, Sorento, or Santa Fe should be relative bargains used. No particular issues with reliability but Mitsu, Kia, & Hyundai historically have higher initial depreciation so the vehicles should be a better value used. Hyundai less so nowadays.
Considering trading the CX-9 for a lightly used 2011 Odyssey (in Denver).
Would trade:
2010 Mazda CX-9 Grand Touring AWD model, no additional options
Dolphin Grey exterior with black interior
36k miles, nice and clean condition.
Looking at:
2011 Honda Odyssey EX-L with navigation
Smoky Topaz exterior with truffle interior
7k miles, nice condition (as expected for such a new model)
Not at a Honda dealer (so not certified)
We didn't get to the point of talking on my trade, but they claimed to be at their lowest at $32,400 on the Honda. Since it only seems to be about $3k away from a brand new one, it didn't seem like much of a deal, but I'm curious as to what you think the numbers are.
Thanks!
Bruce
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
That Oddy with Nav at that price is as low as you can go, it seems. Could fetch around $31k at auction. So its a good price. Does it make sense compared to new? Of course not, its a used Honda. However, $3k for 7k miles isn't anything to sneeze at, either. That's over 42 cents a mile. And a $2500 gap from year to year is pretty standard on $20k-$30k vehicles.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
The only question is why did someone ditch it at just 7k miles? Something wrong?
Or, you know, it could have been a repo, or death, or loaner car, or a number of other situations.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
That's a strong offer from the dealer. I would have expected more like $16k.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Kidding!
2011 Pathfinder
2010 Pathfinder
LE trim (highest) on both. Heated leather, NAV, 4wd, etc.
The 11 strikes me as a slightly better deal; probably stickered around $42k though I'd guess the real transaction price is closer to $38k on these. They have had it advertised at this price for awhile, but I'd guess there's not a lot of wiggle room.
The 10 doesn't have the DVD (don't care), really low miles for the year. Lowest price I've seen on new 12's locally seems to be $38k.
Too high, too low? What do you guys think?
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
Based on what Nissan is doing to these for 2013....the value of these should go up if there was any sense in this world.
I was curious about a lease though. I've never done one, but am considering it for the Ody. They offered $439/month (plus tax) for 36 months with nothing down on a new EX-L w/RES. Having already worked through some of the numbers, I thought that was a really good deal, and if I had gone in set at doing a lease, I probably would've signed for it, but since I'm still struggling between purchase and lease, I passed on that as well.
At perhaps $2,500 savings on that used 2011 versus a new 2012, that option isn't exactly enticing either.
Oh well - it's good I like the CX-9. It makes it easy not to make any quick decision. Thanks for the feedback!
Bruce
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Yeah, I agree. Guess this means the next xterra, if there is one, is going to get bigger. How have you liked your Pathfinder?
As for the LE trim, our current car has heated seats, and I'm told that will continue
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
I installed airbags to improve the rear suspension/hauling ability and put Bilstein shocks all around. One thing to be aware of is the need for premium fuel if you want premium performance. It's only recommended but it does make a difference when hammering on it. I usually have to pass trucks in short-passing zones and pull a lot of hills so I tend to stick with premium fuel most of the time. If I'm just driving a long highway trip I don't bother.
I understand the wife piece. I had to buy the most expensive minivan on the planet just to get the color combo she wanted!
Murano outsells the Pathfinder and XTerra combined.
They're keeping the XTerra, and since the Pathy is a 3-row family vehicle, why not? Off roaders are better off with the smaller X anyway.
I bet sales double.
BTW, I saw a number of Pathfinders when I was down in Chile a month ago...I wonder how the new version will be received internationally? Lots of Nissan and Great Wall crew cabs on the road down there, Toyotas, not as much.
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
The handful that dealers have around here in Denver are being listed at a mere $2-3k less than new - just curious if the auctions are reflecting that as well.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
Yeah, they could have grown the Murano, and the next Rogue could have moved up a notch since they have the Juke as well.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I'm a believer that the name of a car can really sink or swim its chances. My favorite example is the CR-Z. If Honda named it Insight Sport, suddenly it sounds credible because compared to the Insight, it seems like an honest attempt at a fun car. Way more sporty than the Insight. But by naming it CR-Z, Honda brought on all the emotional baggage that comes with the CRX, and nearly all of those former owners were never going to be drawn to a hybrid. Don't even draw the comparison; they could have given the car its own personality with the right name.
If Toyota brought out a 2 door hybrid coupe, of course they'd call it the Prius Sport or something, and would never dream of calling the MR2h or Celica-h. It would be tons of fail...
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
We're considering a new one, nicely equipped, for around $43-44k or so. That's for a leftover 2011; 2012 would be perhaps $1,000 to $1,500 more.
Obviously, too new of a car for used ones to be any kind of deal, huh?
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
For average condition, I'm seeing hammer prices from $36k up to around $41k. I don't know equipment levels on these, so I'm making the assumption that the $39k-$41k numbers are for loaded ones.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2009 Elantra Sedan -- I believe they're all "GLS"
1.6 l four; automatic transmission
45k, silver
Non-smoker, no accidents but some parking lot dings and scratches.
Equipped with all the usual stuff, and he's got two weeks to get rid of it.
What do they do at auction (Thanks in advance, qb!) and what do y'all think he should sell it for on the street?
Cheers -Mathias
CR-Z is not the spiritual successor to the CR-X.
In fact, I'd argue the Veloster comes closer. The base Veloster's 40mpg makes it a credible modern CR-X HF, and the new turbo model is close to the Si.
Let's see a non-hybrid CR-Z, though...
08 Pathfinder
This is a weird one; LE trim, rare V8 model, with the wacky King Ranch junior interior color. Miles are a little higher than ideal. Q, what do you think they are into this one for? It feels high to me, but the only V8 comparisons I've found are leftover 11's in the $36 range...the engine is hard to come by.
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
Of course, people will think its a scam if he goes into the whole "leaving the country. must sell" bit. But $9995 isn't so cheap to be scary, I don't think.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I'm pretty sure I'm seeing the auction results for this very one, however.
Crossed the block at the SF Bay auction on Jan 11th with 48,537 miles. Storm Grey. Average condition. Got $21,750. So I'd say his price is quite fair.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S