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Audi A4 2004 and earlier



  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,386
    My Friend has an Amulet Red and I think it is an amazing color!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • I like Pearlescent White better...heheh..

  • dej0dej0 Posts: 36
    Hi Gang,
    Well, I finally ordered my new A4. I got the 3.0Q w/ 6spd, sport, xenons and a moon roof. I did not care for any of the other stuff. What color? Amulet red with the beige 'ette. I had to order because the local dealer basically did not have any that were not fully loaded. I got $1100 off MSRP from the dealer and another $600 from Audi since I am a repeat customer. Apparantly, the money back from Audi changes month to month. The dealer is hopeful I'll get the car before April, but I will be surprised. It took 3 months to get the 1.8T. I am very excited. We will be driving this car up to Maine this summer (from NC), so I will be able to answer anyone's question about long distance traveling. So far, our '97 has been great for road trips.

    congrats to the other new owners.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,386
    but I can't ever see myslef spending $1200 on paint!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • Anyone know which systems on an '02 A4 1.8 tip work in reverse? ABS, ESP, Traction Cont, Brake Assist, etc. It's a long and slippery downhill trip down my driveway in reverse in the winter. All electronic help is appreciated (in addition to the winter tires). I'm on the brakes all the way down with little need to turn.

    My '98 jeep looked up the brakes and did a near 180 the other day on the way down. ABS did not work in reverse, wheels locked, no other electronics aids on that vehicle. (Although the Jeep went right back up as though it was dry pavement). Not brave enough to try the Audi that day.
  • audibonaudibon Posts: 100
    Congrats on the new car! I know you are very excited and can't wait, kinda like being a kid again on Xmas morning isn't it?
    Billy, I see you have another silver A4 out there now that A4 4vince has made his selection..... :)
    BTW everyone we finally have SNOW here in the Chicago/Milwaukee region! Who'd a thunk the middle of Jan. for the first measureable snow? Billy, I am going to find a parking lot later tonight and fool around, how about you? Any powerslides in your future? :)
  • rdl40rdl40 Posts: 60
    I plan on purchasing a A-4 '02 model in the next couple of weeks.
    My question to the Audi experts is about aftermarket wheels.
    Tire rack says that a BBS "RC" wheel 18x8.5 with
    235-40-18 tires will fit this car with no rubbing.
    Can somebody confirm this. Also what is the best high perf. summer tire can you recommend (I live in California).
    Thanks, Ron
  • aegus1aegus1 Posts: 29

    I'm very happy with my Michelin Pilot Sports. Mine are size 225-45-17. They grip and ride great, and don't punish the ears either. They get very good marks and reviews at TireRack too.

    After a month on my winter tires, I can also recommend the Dunlop Wintersport M2 (my size being 205-55-15). They are a bit less responsive than the Michelins but still quite good in all respects. I'm very impressed with how quiet they are for a 'snow' rated tire. I've had louder all-seasons. They haven't been truly tested in snow yet. Philly's only gotten one teeney little snow storm so far.

  • I really like the Dunlop SP9000
  • royaloroyalo Posts: 3
    Have had 7 Audis. Bought 98 A4 2.8 Q new in June 98. Ordered 02 A-4, 3.0Q Nov 12 2001. Cash no trade .Waiting for delivery. Some message boards mentioned $600 from Audi USA to loyal customers. Called Audi USA. Said one program ended 10/31. New program started 11/22 and that I am not eligible for the $600. Doesnt seem fair. Have others experienced this? Did others get the $600? Thanks
  • Let's see I got two months free lease from Audi.

    One on a 2001 TT and the other on a 2001 A6 4.2 --

    The loyalty program pays up to $800 for a lease payment for one month for repeat AFS customers -- the key appears to be that you must be an AFS customer, since the money does not come from Audi per se, but from Audi Financial Services.

    At least that is what they told me.
  • royaloroyalo Posts: 3
    Thanks Perhaps the money is avail for lease only. Did hear of buyer of 1.8 getting $400 when he picked up his car last week. Not sure where he lived. Msg is on Audiworld
  • Why buy when you can lease? The "asset" depreciates, technology changes, new car fever cylces around now and again. Other than paying cash or zero percent interest -- why not lease? My dealer claims that over 75% of the Audi's he "sells" are leased and that that percentage is on the rise.

    The only reason NOT to lease besides free money would seem to be annual milage above 18 - 20K.

    The loyalty program is meant to recoginze repeat lease customers (again, that is what my dealer indicated to me).
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,386
    My friend with the '02 3.0Q just brought his car in for service because his Fuel Gauge just stopped working. The dealer has had the car for a few days and is waiting for a part (or 2) from Germany in order to fix it. When he finds out the problem, I'll be sure to post it.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • dej0dej0 Posts: 36
    When I ordered my '02 3.0Q they told me that Audi was offering $600 off MSRP for repeat customers. It was $800 off in December, but I was not ready at that point. I was steamed at my guy that I lost $200 even though I had called him back on December 31. Anyway, I may not even get the $600 since I had to order the car and the amount is not garanteed until delivery or some such. Anyway, he claims that Audi (probably Audi NA) always has some deal for repeat customers. He tried to imply that it might be even higher when my car comes in. It could be that I am getting it because I am turning in my '97 A4, but I would really grill your dealer. If they pretend not to have heard of it, contact Audi NA directly. I am sure they have sent me notices about this kind of thing before also.

    Let's not debate leasing vs. buying. The 3 series board blew up with it over the last week. They are usually every bit as helpful and polite as the people here, but it has started to get ugly.

    Did anyone else complete all 3 funny little double take 'mysteries' on the Audi web site in hopes of going to driving school in Atlanta?

  • cr8ncr8n Posts: 8
    A few days ago their was a series of questions on how to heel-and-toe downshift. Host Pat directed us to an excellent Edmunds article on the topic. Yesterday I picked up my A4, and noticed that there is a significant difference in Brake vs accelerator pedal height. I am not able to reach the gas with my foot on the brake.

    Can pedal height be adjusted by the dealer?
  • My point was not to suggest that if you determine buying or financing is best for you that you should only lease -- although I would (in a polite non-ugly fashion) argue that leasing is for most people the best choice -- it was to say that if Audi Financial Services has a "loyalty deal" and it applies to leasing (only), don't expect to get the deal if you are NOT leasing.

    The fact that deals change from time to time is a fact of life. Who knows if the salesperson actually knew on December 31 or January 15th or November 15th? Based on what my dealer tells me, it would be to the salesperson's advantage to tell you as it does not alter the commission and it generally helps sell cars (and it does not, or at least did not when we leased our '01's come from dealer revenue either).
  • Thanks and yes. You are right. I can't wait. It is going to be a such a big upgrade from a Corolla. Another silver A4 will be cruising down the road pretty soon.

  • I'm wondering if anyone has heard anything about the new '02 Cab. while they were shopping for the sedan?
    I love the sedan, just dreaming I guess
  • lauk0dglauk0dg Posts: 563
    Whew just came back safely from a business trip to Wisconsin on a rental 01 Maxima.....too much power to the front wheels, too little tread left on the right front tire, too much snow fell in one day (well not that much, but 1st significant snow is always interesting), the end result of the equation = sliding around and miss my A4Q so much. Glad I made it back safe.

    Audibon, well as I said I wasn't in Chicago so didn't get a chance to slide around in the A4 but the last few days was enough sliding for me. Still, driving the A4 last nite over some snow packed parking lot certainly I felt the Quattro at work sending power to wheels which didn't slip. Interesting and glad to know it works.

    Rdl40, I've seen people here in Chicago having 235/40/18 tires on 18" BBS (forgot which model though) wheels with no rubbing. However, even two different tires having the 235/40/18 do not necessarily mean they have the same cross sectional sidewall only means they have the same tread size and aspect ratio.....and as you know it's the sidewall that usually rubs. I've heard people saying, for example, Dunlop SP5000 are plump and it might even rub with 225/45/17 if your suspension is lowered. Is your suspension lowered? Best place to ask the tire/wheel questions is at Audiworld Tire/Wheel forum.

    Nyccarguy, apparently there were fuel gauge failures in the 95-01 models too. I've heard about that in Audiworld. People complaining they stopped working or they won't show "Full" even they put in a full tank of gas. Yeah please let us know what your friend finds out from the dealer.

    A4_4Vince, where are you again? Just saw a dolphin grey 02 A4 1.8TQ covered with road salt down the looks really awesome from the back end, especially the dual exhausts.

    Miamimarc, there is a guy in our Audi car club here in Chicago that his mum just put down her name in the #1 spot in a local dealer for a 02 A4 Cabriolet QUATTRO. As you may know, Audi only says the upcoming Cab will be a 3.0 but Fronttrac and not a Quattro. According to him, the dealer checked with AoA and it might show up as soon as later this year. Truth or lie, time will tell. I'm gonna ask that question when some of us at the Audi club goes to the Chicago Auto Show next month.....and of course, take some pics :>

  • Had just a little too much fun with your rental Maxima? It's good to know you got home safe. I am in Portland, Oregon. And that's the main reasons I had to pay what I paid. There is only one Audi dealer in town.

    Dolphin gray is cool but I just can't think of myself driving one. Silver or ebony pearl does me just fine. Oh, I almost forget pearlescent white..hehe.

  • lauk0dglauk0dg Posts: 563
    Yup pearlescent white is nice but it's a really expensive most people will think we are dumb to think that the "WHITE" color worths that much.....hehe. Oh yeah, silver is the best.....and the fastest too :> Only 1 dealer in Portland? We got 8 here in Chicago :> I guess next time when I'm in town for business I'll look for that ONE dealership :>

    Hope you can get your A4 ASAP :>

  • art42art42 Posts: 4
    '02 A4 1.8T/5sp/quattro/sport susp, Amulet Red/black interior. Had since early Dec '01. Right now close to 7K miles. I like the car so far, as it is a substantial improvement over my previous one ('00 A4 FWD 1.8T).
    However, even though the dealers do love to brag about 45% increase in torsional whatever, this car rattles and squeeks (all inside - dashboard, A & B pillars, etc). And it is so annoying, especially for something that you pay more than $30K. Yes, Audi has excellent design, quality materials, decent engines, but build quality definitely could be better. If at least the car could wait until 40-50K to start making those noises...
    Otherwise, I love extra space, sporty front seats, improved handling and steering. The car is certainly a pleasure to drive long distances, something that I do on a daily basis. On the other hand, transmission & clutch could definitely use some improvement (if comparing to 3 series).
    Final impression: cannot wait for the coupe and cabriolet to come out.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,386
    Lauk0dg...I have read that a version of the A4 Cabroilet will be available with Audi's legendary Quattro All Wheel Drive System (Sorry, just wanted to sound like a marketing weenie).

    I begged my friend to buy winter wheels/tires for his '02 3.0Q (SP & 6 Speed). He said he got by fine last winter with the Z rated tires he put on his Maxima and he felt with Quattro he wouldn't need snow tires. It snowed in Connecticut on Saturday and he was sliding all over the road. He's debating whether it is worth it to buy Snow Tires for a the few times a year it snows. I'm not trying to start a Winter/Snow Tire vs. All Season Tire debate. Just stating what happened to my frioend who kept his Conti's on.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • lauk0dglauk0dg Posts: 563
    I think your friend should switch to Dunlop SP5000. Heard from numerous people here in Chicago that it's a decent combination of performance and traction under wet/snowy/icy conditions. But again, to get a compromise between both worlds you can't get the best of both worlds. If he got the $$ to pay for a $40 thou car he should be ready to pay for an extra set of winter shoes. The compound in the summer tires basically freezes up in the winter and the tires don't stick to the road.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,386
    about the rubber compound freezing up in the winter. I told him about it as well. He just didn't want to listen. He's going down to the tire shop today to check out his options.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • rdl40rdl40 Posts: 60
    Art if you had to do it over again would you buy the Audi or the BMW?
    I'm getting close to a purchase. If I bought the A-4 I would put 18' wheels on. Also do you find the sport pkg. too hard? Did you drive a non spt. pkg. car?
    Thanks, ron
  • art42art42 Posts: 4
    I would probably still take Audi, probably because every car will have its shortcomings and Audi still has the best design (inside & out). Also, its engine is decent, handling is good, and of course lets not forget the quattro. Plus, it has price advantage over BMW. My '00 A4 so far proved to be fairly reliable.
    Concerning the sport package - if you gonna get 18 inch wheels then definitely think twice before ordering it, unless you would drive on smooth (make that very smooth) surfaces - no potholes whatsoever. That is one thing that I would change if I could - get 17 (or even maybe 18) inch wheels without the sport package.
    The test car that I drove had non-sport package and it handled fairly decently (I was testing it, among other places, on fairly good country roads (Blue Ridge mountains, Virginia)).
    Test the sport package if you can get a chance.
    Good luck.
    P.S. make sure to get the Bose, they improved it
    quite a bit.
  • gymshoegymshoe Posts: 80
    take a look at the edmunds homepage

    take a good look at the girl on the left side holding the TMV sign....

    now...take a look at this site.

    on the left hand column, below the menu options...the girl AT&T is calling "Meet Eva!"

    now tell that the SAME girl?!

    WEIRD??? Hehehehe....

    now for something audi related so my post doesn't get censored for being off topic..

    took my car in to get the rattle that it's had since i took delivery. some metal plate underneat the exhaust system was missing a lug nut, a spacer, and a spring!! incredible...well..they got it fixed and it's not making any more metallic rattles! yay!

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