Hyundai Elantra 2001-2006

rab613

i've driven about 800 miles on a 2001 elantra.my first two gas fill-ups averaged only about 17.5 mpg.does it get better as the car breaks in, or is there a problem?thanks for any help.

browney

This doesn't look right, unless you're doing all city driving and flooring it from every light with the a/c on.
There have been a few posts with similar complaints. I posted a list of possible causes for this that comes straight out of the shop manual. Unfortunately searching the archives to retrieve this info on this forum is not the best I have seen.
Try giving it until you hit maybe 1500mi. If it is still the same I would say take it back to the dealer to have it looked at.

pigbag

I have had my 2001 Elantra for 10 weeks now and have had no complaints. It appears to be a very good car.
My question concerns the floor mats and the plastic floor mat holder which is supposed to prevent the floor mats from sliding forward. The plastic holder on the drivers side has come partially out of the carpet on the floorboard. I have tried to re-insert it several times to no avail. I know due to the nature of the mat, that is going to want to slide forward whenever you get in the car. Thought that was what the plastic holder was for. Has anyone else experienced this? Also my floor mat on the drivers side has worn down to the rubber where the sole of my shoe rests on it. I don't think this should be wearing out after 2 months.
Any thoughts would be appreiciated.

vocus

My only thought would be to bring this matter up on your next service visit and see what the dealership will do about it for you.

browney

The clip on mine is broken also.
Appears to be a very cheap design.
Have to take it up with the dealer next time I bring it in.

tonykrapil

I agree that NO filter would improve anything BUT by using a low restriction filter, the engine would be allowed to develop as much power as it is capable of. Consider breathing through a straw, now add some cotton into that straw.... it will be harder to breathe, but yu can do it.

I dont have one of the K&N ffilters yet, however, when you look at the cost of a new, replacement filter from the dealer, the cost is not that bad. And IF the filter allows any improvement in mileage or performance, this is a plus.

Now that the K&N Part numbers are on the K&N website, I will take the plunge on both of my Hyundai's.

Like my dad always said ' Education costs money' Once I have spent $$s on the filter I will truley know if it is worth it or not.

majorthomecho

AMI AutoWorld did a test of a K&N filter kit. This includes not only a filter but a few other parts. They claimed to have decreased the 0 to 60 time of a truck by about a half second; decreased the quarter mile time; and, increased the quarter mile speed by two miles per hour.

jyk1981

I did not really calculated or check(?) horse powers, but it feels like it..(I don't know.. maybe I'm pushing more gas than before..)

One thing for sure is the better gas mileage.

tc22

Have any of you tried Vent visor or any other similar product for your Hyundai? I have a problem with rain entering the window of my 2001 El antra.

fangio2

Today I was behind an Elantra waiting to enter a main road from a parking lot.The Elantra pulled forward and suddenly backed up into my Leganza.It was quite a jolt.I got out expecting to see the front of my Leganza looking like an Echo.I had visions of waiting months to get body parts.I don't know how fast the Elantra was traveling,luckily the airbag did not inflate.
To my surprise there was no damage to my car;other then a small crease in my license plate holder.The Elantra was also unscathed.There wasn't even a paint scratch on either vehicle.
I would have to say this says something about Korean vehicle finish and structural quality in real world situations.

majorthomecho

Sorry to throw cold water on your celebration, but how a car does in a low speed crash does not necessarily indicate how well a car will hold up in a higher speed crash.

Also, I would check out why the air bag did not deploy. Perhaps the speed of the other car at the time of impact was too low or perhaps it was a failure. Only your dealer can probably tell you for sure.

Glad to hear that there were no injuries.

compensate

I am looking for a dealer in the vicinity of Nashville, TN that is willing to sell a GT near invoice. This could include such cities as Huntsville, AL, Louisville, KY, Chattanooga, TN, or Jackson, TN.

I am not having luck with one Hyundai dealer in Nashville (Hallmark Hyundai) and I need a price as low as possible because my trade-in will end up netting me a negative dollar amount trade value.

Anyone know of a reputable dealer nearby?

Thanks!

browney

These links show data when using K&N Air filters.

The results are both good and bad.

Actual Test Data;

 http://www-marketing.wharton.upenn.edu/~simon/r1/archives/v08/msg01279.html

http://members.tripod.com/~YZFR1_2/kn.html

http://www.bimmer.org/z3/messages/archive/messages/3945.html

K&N Advertisement:

http://www.drperformanceflorida.com/kn_af_facts.htm#FACTS

Amsoil Advertisement:

http://www.the-oilman.com/products/airfilters.html

intrepidspirit

a new 2001 Elantra for my daughter! I researched the internet over the past 2 weeks and was surprised to see how highly the Elantra was rated by the reviewers at MSN and Edmunds. Two weeks ago, I never thought I would be buying a Hyuandai!

This car will be perfect for my daughter. I got a really good deal on the automatic, but they wouldn't budge from MSRP on package 2, so I declined. I will install an alarm system separately (I don't think she would use cruise control anyway).

I was very impressed with the car on the drive home (it was quiet, smooth and crept up to 80 on me before I realized it)! And knowing that the engine and transmission are warranted for 100,000 miles (or 10 years) gives me great peace of mind!

Last week I noticed postings on prices...for what it's worth, my deal was $3,044 below sticker and $2,278 below factory invoice...I was happy!

stever15

Just bought a Pewter Elantra GLS 5-speed Package 5 with CA emissions (in MA!!) mud guards, and carpeted floor mats for $13,108. Had visited dealer and expressed interest in an Elantra and told them I was comparison shopping. They did not have a package five on the lot.
A week later they phoned to say one had been delivered. I told them my price, five minutes later they called me back to say OK. I went in with an E-Loan draft, without me asking they offered me a better APR. I can recommend Rte 2 Hyundai in Leominster, MA. There was no pressure and no trying to sell any extras. Love the car as well.

tonykrapil

Browney! You did good. Now I have 'paralysis through Analysis' I cant make a move!

Thanks for the info.

Tony

browney

You paid $2,278 below factory invoice?
What was your actual cost before taxes, tag, and title?
I ask because stever15, myself, and most others on this forum basically paid around or a couple of hundred below invoice.

intrepidspirit

MRSP was $14,032 (Auto/CA emissions/floor mats/mud guards). Factory invoice is $13,266. My price before registration, taxes, etc. was $10,988. Total cost including registration and tax (ugh!) documentation fee and California tire fee (???) was $12,154.64.

As I say, I was happy...and so is my daughter, because she is paying me back for the car!

The dealer is "Famous Ed's Hyundai" (formerly "Bendick Hyundai") in El Monte, CA. Advertised prices of $10,988 included all Elantras with MRSP of $13,972 or less. I happened to get the mud flaps thrown in because the color I wanted had them on.

Good people to work with, no pressure, easy to purchase! BTW, their price also beat CarsDirect's price by $1,178...

browney

Carsdirect.com price online right now for zip code 91731, Elantra 5sp,pkg5,CA emis,mats, is $12,450; MSRP $14,322; Invoice $13,550
A little different from your numbers for some reason.

It is a 5sp right. I ask because in the 2nd message you have (Auto/CA emissions/floor mats/mud guards)

I would have to think that the dealer will soon be going out of business selling cars below their cost. Unless they are getting some other kick back besides the $500 rebate and dealer holdback of 2% of invoice ($271). Based on this the dealer's cost was $12,779 and he sold it to you for $10,988 thus taking a $1,791 loss.
I would have to agree that they are good people to work with.
It would probably be worth flying out there for people in states close to CA for deals like that.

backy

Airbags are designed not to deploy in a low-speed collision like this one, i.e. under 20 mph. Since neither car had any damage, your collision was most likely under 5 mph. Bumper-basher tests (like Consumer Reports) show hundreds of dollars of damage to the Elantra, both front and rear, in 5 mph tests. Still, the Elantra has been cited by crash testers for its relatively low repair costs in low-speed collisions, compared with other compacts. Its higher-speed crash tests are excellent also (as far a protecting occupants).

Good thing it was an Elantra that backed up, and not an Expedition or Suburban!

intrepidspirit

No, I bought an automatic. My daughter can't drive a standard shift.

The MRSP of $14,032 is $13,299 base (incl. auto transmission),$100 CA emissions, $78 floor mats, $60 mud guards and $495 frt. & handling. Total factory invoice is $13,266. CarsDirect price (zip 91773) is $12,166. My price was $10,988, which is $3,044 below MRSP, $2,278 below factory invoice and $1,178 below CarsDirect.

I don't know how they sell them at this price, either. I was only looking for about 2 weeks, so I don't know if these prices are unusual in this area. However, another dealer advertised a "one only" loss leader on Saturday for $9,795 (MRSP $13,972 -- it was sold, of course).

But why is everyone buying at about $200 below factory invoice when CarsDirect is selling at $1,100 below factory invoice?

fangio2

My point was not that it was a life threatening crash.It was simply that little bumps common in parking lots didn't cause any dented body parts or paint scratches to either car.
I mentioned the non-deployment of airbags only to give an idea of the low speed of the impact.My comment regarding structual and finish quality was just to state that these two Korean cars SEEMINGLY will survive parking lot bumpercar.

stever15

Sticker price on my 5-speed was $14,382. Carsdirect pricing in MA (01431) was $13,290 and invoice was $13,590. I thought I was doing well at $13,108. Where do these ridiculously low prices come from?

elantra00

I had those vent visors and they suck. At first I thought they looked cool, but it cheapens the look of the car and they fall off after awhile cause the glue isn't the highest quality.

Problem with rain entering your car? Better have that checked out with hyundai

intrepidspirit

Obviously there is a large discrepancy in pricing east to west. Go to CarsDirect.com and check prices for 91773 (San Dimas, CA). They are (were) $1,100 below factory invoice (including a $500 rebate that ends today). I don't know if that has been extended. Since their prices are only $300 below invoice in MA, I assume the $800 difference means the market is softer here.

I didn't realize I was getting such a great deal!

intrepidspirit

I didn't mean to stir anything up on the pricing issue. I really just wanted to tell you guys I think you are on to a good thing in the Elentra. I always do my homework before I buy (4 cars over the last 13 months) and I was impressed by the Elentra reviews and by the look, feel and drive of the car. I'm really happy I bought this car for my daughter!

I only brought up the pricing because I got the impression over the past 2 weeks that were a lot of pricing discrepancies and you wanted to share information.

Bottom line -- it's supply and demand and the prices are what the market will bear. It doesn't mean I got a better deal or you paid too much -- it just means the market here is more competitive!

mpgman

With prices like some of those posted above, it might make sense for a lot of people to stretch a bit and go for the Elantra over the Accent. While the Accent represents excellent value for the money, the Elantra is such a plus up equipment and size wise that it is hard to resist. Fuel mileage seems to be in the same general ball park for the 2 cars.....kind of disappointing in a way that they can't squeeze a few more mpg out of the Accent.

browney

I know what you mean about not being able to decide because of the conflicting info.
I was hoping the data was decisive when I started my search.
If it is true that by giving better gas mileage the K&N has to sacrifice fine particle filtering then I don't want it.
My son bought one for his 2000 Cavalier about a month ago. I'm going to check the ducting after the filter on it to see if the K&N filter is allowing dust through.

browney

I am still unable to match the carsdirect (CD) pricing with what I see posted on this forum.
I get the following prices when I go to Carsdirect.com:
For a 2001 Elantra,Auto,CA Emis,Mud Guards,Mats, Package 5.
Zip:91773 San Dimas, CA
CD Price=$13,243, MSRP=$15,182, Invoice=$14,343
Zip:30092 Norcross, GA
CD Price=$14,143, MSRP=$15,182, Invoice=$14,343
Zip:02101 Boston, MA
CD Price=$14,043, MSRP=$15,182, Invoice=$14,343
Zip:45201 Cincinnati, OH
CD Price=$14,143, MSRP=$15,182, Invoice=$14,343

MSN Carpoint Pricing: MSRP=$15,182 Invoice=$13,953
Hyundaiusa.com Pricing MSRP=$14,625 (no invoice listed)
Edmunds TMV Pricing: MSRP=$15,182 Invoice=$13,953

The only obvious CD price difference is by location, which is probably caused by how much it costs CD to ship the vehicle. Since CA is the place where the vehicles are delivered from Korea, the CD price would be the least there.
That still doesn't account for the large difference in what I am getting from CD for MSRP and Invoice compared to others on this forum.
Is it possible for CD to give different MSRP and Invoice prices based on where the Internet Query is coming from?

What do others outside San Dimas, CA get for prices when they query carsdirect?

It's to late to care about what I paid but not to late to help others, who haven't purchased yet, get the best price.

majorthomecho

Fangio, pardon me for misunderstanding, but you did use words such as "quite a jolt," "expecting to see the front...looking like an Echo," and "luckily the airbag did not inflate."

I thought it was probably a low speed crash, but your words left a large doubt in my mind.

Just wondering one thing though. Did the Elantra driver have an explanation as to why he or she backed up?

cjaccetta

I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that one of the reasons the CarsDirect invoice price is higher is because CD adds certain charges for fuel and advertising to its invoice prices. I have noticed this on other models besides Hyundais. Plus, add $100 to the MSRP for any Hyundai because of the countrywide California Emissions "option". When I queried CD three weeks ago, I got a price of approx. $15,100 for an Elantra GT (MSRP was $15,394).

Also, Newark, NJ is another port of entry for Hyundai and that could be why you're seeing a low CD price in Massachusetts.

BTW, I paid $14,500 before t,t&l for an Elantra GT (base, auto) in northern New Jersey. I have a sinking feeling that dealers are going to start up-pricing the Elantra (esp. the GT) in my area because there is a high demand for them right now. The word is out on the Elantra.

mpgman

If these filters can add mpgs, and I'm waiting to read some hard evidence that they do, then why don't the auto manufacturers install them as OEM parts and go for higher EPA ratings? Buying them in bulk would certainly lower the unit cost per filter.

intrepidspirit

You have a package 5 in your pricing. I did not purchase a package 5, and the prices I posted earlier do not include package 5. Try CarsDirect without package 5 -- it will agree with my pricing (91773).

vnatarajan

Hi,

I am planning to buy Elantra GLS 2001. my zip code is 29615 (SC). whats the good deal and where shall i find such dealer nearby my area. izzit worth to buy that car for that deal. how is the performance&resale vale of elantra?. elantra owners please help me. thanks.

majorthomecho

Rightly or wrongly, it is estimated that an Elantra will be worth 27% of MSRP after five years of ownership.

fangio2

he did not see a car coming down the road he was attempting to enter.He pulled forward ,saw the car and hurriedly put the car in reverse and backed up without looking.
A common parking lot mistake.Again,I was impressed with the lack of paint or body damage.

aquesada

Nobody is talking to you, keep using your toy car!!

browney

You are absolutely right.(Many apologies)
Don't know why I added pkg 5 to your deal.
(Brain damage from the 60s?)
I now get the following prices when I go to Carsdirect.com:
For a 2001 Elantra,Auto,CA Emis,Mud Guards,Mats
Zip:91773 San Dimas, CA
CD Price=$12,166, MSRP=$14,032, Invoice=$13,266
Zip:30092 Norcross, GA
CD Price=$13,066 MSRP=$14,032, Invoice=$13,266
Zip:02101 Boston, MA
CD Price=$12,966, MSRP=$14,032, Invoice=$13,266
Zip:45201 Cincinnati, OH
CD Price=$13,066 MSRP=$14,032, Invoice=$13,266

Zip:29615 ?, SC (added for vnatarajan)
CD Price=$13,066 MSRP=$14,032, Invoice=$13,266

MSN Carpoint Pricing: MSRP=$14,032 Invoice=$12,907
Hyundaiusa.com Pricing MSRP=$13,299 (no dealer options installed, no invoice listed)
Edmunds: TMV=$13,056 MSRP=$14,032 Invoice=$12,907

So the dealer cost now was only $12,500 that means they seem to have taken a $1500 loss on the sale. (wish I could have gotten that)

elantra00

Thats true. Newark, NJ is a large port of entry. That is why I got a low price on my elantra. Fully loaded except for moonroof and automatic transmission for $10,900 down from 13,500. California is on the other side of the country and actually closer to Korea and has ports in the state, being on the coast, so that is why it is cheaper over there. No real shipping inland on trucks as to lets say, the midwest or someplace like Texas

majorthomecho

Well, excuse me!

A question was asked about resale value and although I am not an Elantra owner, I did have access to the answer so I thought I would give it.

vnatarajan

hi majorthomecho,
so wat!.... u can answer eventho u r not owner of elantra!...it seems that resale value is lesser than honda! anyway thank u!

majorthomecho

Not to get into a comparison war, but not too many cars measure up to the resale value of Hondas so Elantra owners should not feel bad in that regard.

elantra00

You pick a fight with everyone, now don't you? Can't we all just get along? Honda Honda Honda...I am sick of hearing about Honda! Give Hyundai 5 years and they will be ahead of Honda. The Elantra is better looking then the 4 dr civic, is cheaper, is more powerful and equipped better. Its a no brainer. The civic feels cheap, sounds cheap too. The only thing I like about civics where their tuneability, which they lost since with the redesign and I like their automatic transmission, which are smooth. Other then that, they are just as loud, if not "buzzier" then the Elantra.

Who in their right mind pays 17 grand for an Economy car? Thats what an equally equipped civic as an Elantra would cost. Close to 5 grand more. 5 years from now at the rate Hyundai is going, they will buy back consumer confidence as Honda did in the late 70s/early 80s. Then Honda will get the shock of its life when if FINALLY realizes that they can't sell an econobox for 17 grand

fangio2

you will loose $1000's less then a Honda or Toyota owner.Forget % think in terms of $.With the initial lower cost PLUS the warranty PLUS the free service.We don't live on % we have to spend $.Do the math Hyundai owners will spend less-case closed.

liljonson

K&N airfilters do add like 1-2hp on a car that it is installed on so you will get better mpg and some extra speed. maybe like .3 seconds off 0-60 if your lucky, but you will really feel the power of the filter once you add like 60+ hp to your car. K&N filter charger is for performance, it is made for cars with the bolt on parts to make the car go VROOM VROOM.

hyundai will beat on honda anyday, never lost to one but hey i live on Long Island where people think rims add 15hp and colored honda symbol gives them the right to drive like idiots thru heavy traffic. plus hyundai is unbeatable in the torque department when compared to car in its class. exclude the sentra se because that is above its class.

elantra00

Some people say that you pay more now with a civic, but you get that back in resale. Well, its kind of a tradeoff if you think about it, isn't it? You spend less on the Elantra now but lose money when you sell it. You spend more on the civic now, but get the money you would have saved later on. HOWEVER, the Elantra resale is going up. another few years. Pay less now...get the same back as you would a honda

elantra00

Sounds like here too! Big rims (sometimes hubcaps), do it yourself tint jobs, towel rack spoilers, Coffee can exhuast systems....Big stickers...All that gives more power. All that is heavier and slows them done. Not to mention dropping the car and having all 4 wheels out of alignment. Pretty funny to see. If anyone is interested, go to www.riceboypage.com

fangio2

back recliner can easily add 100 hp to a Civic especially if the driver wears a wind tunnel tested reversed ballcap.

rgarbaccio

I am happy to see this dialogue, because without driving, I am totally down to these two cars. Civic EX vs. Elantra GLS (loaded) or GT. The difference is not as great as suggested by elantra00. And the cars are similar in many ways.

The Civic EX comes with all the options I want - cruise, CD, moonroof, ABS, antitheft. Has 127 hp, gets 31/38. I'm concerned about backseat (two young children) and legroom is 36 in with hip at 50 in. Got excellent/good crash rating, and has 3yr/3yr.

The Elantra GLS with options to match Civic EX is 14,078 and that doesn't include ABS. The sunroof package overlaps with ABS package, and I can't figure out how to get both. ABS isn't a lone add-on I guess. If you added in ABS at $600, then the Elantra comes in at 14,600 loaded. Elantra back seat is 35in leg, 56 inches hip. ALso got excellent/good crash, and comes with that nice 5yr/10yr. Engine gives 140 hp, and gets 24/33 giving a cost different of $200/year in gas for 12,000 mile year. Trunk is 11 cu. ft compared to 12.9 in the civic (strollers/cribs etc.)

So - the difference in price is $2000 and doesn't include ABS in Elantra for similarly equipped vehicles. THe GT is only $1000 less, but you get the hatch. Yes - I'm bugged everyone drives a Civic, but the reliability and resale contribute to that. I like the Elantra styling too - but not sure if $2000 less is worth the risk in reliability. Yes the warranty is great - but having your car in the shop is a major pain, as is breaking down.

So...I'm going to test drive both of course. I want to like the Elantra, because I could use the savings up front. I plan to drive the car for at least 7-8 years, so resale not as big an issue - but admittedly still counts.

Just wanted to get some facts out there in the hopes of continuing this dialogue.

Thanks

compensate

I know I asked this previously but I am anxious to find a Hyundai dealer who is willing to sell a 2001 GT 5-speed for just a few hundred above invoice near Nashville, TN (within a couple hundred miles).

Does anyone know a good Hyundai dealer (who will make a great deal) in Kentucky, Tennessee, North Alabama, or North Georgia?

Thanks in advance for any help!