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Proper procedure would be to work with IIHS, study the tests and THEN decide whether a recall is warranted. By stating that there will not be a recall, they are telling us that though our cars may be unsafe, they meet regulatory standards and they really care only about the safety (and sales volume) of future models.
IMHO, Hyundai is at the crossroads of attaining excellence in reputation or retreating toward their abysmal reputation of the past. A bad reputation is a difficult thing to overcome. Hyundai has been making very good quality cars over the past few years and yet in the marketplace there is still a resistance to buy based on their historically bad reputation.
Huyandai is making a big mistake in dismissing recall options at this early stage...
I don't think that writing to the top of Hyundai is necessary. You can bet that the letter writer is just giving the Hyundai line as would the man at the top. I cannot imagine that the letter writer just threw together a response on his own.
rbrody@hmausa.com
And don't forget their phone number.
800-633-5151
The light came on before I ever added gas, although I did fill up twice.
When I checked the tank he had removed the gas cap tether completely. This certainly cheapens the car, every car I've purchased in the last ten years has had a tether and the check engine light certainly hasn't come on.
I did tighten the cap to the requisite three clicks, and I guess I could have screwed up the tether by over tightening, although for the life of me I can't figure how.
The only other explanation is that the tether gets in the way of things and they've found out that it's the cause of most check engine light malfunctions. Will complain on Monday.
Has anyone else been given this explanation as to why the check engine light came on?
My other [non-permissible content removed] about service was being made to wait for ten minutes while a porter got my car. The salesman told me that customers appreciate the extra service. Screw the extra service, let me get my own car, fire the porter, cut the cost by fifty bucks, and get me out of there earlier.
I always shy away from any kind of valet parking anyway. It's usually been a source of damage to my car. During the sweeps one of the TV stations followed a hospital valet parking operation and the abuse of the cars wasn't pretty.
Other than that I really like this car. Made a 300 mile trip yesterday and it was flawless. As I said in an earlier post, I took a car with slight (repaired) hail damage and no shimmy over a car with no hail damage and a slight shimmy. Hope I made the right decision.
Tony
MAYBE, the weights fling off the rims is all thats happening.
I have a Ford Ranger and had to use the stick on weights as they would always fling off.
I think RIGHT NOW is a good time to make up a little sketch of my tire weights and keep it in the glove box.
Good luck,
Tony
Is there anyone out there that has had this problem.
About the crash tests-- what I think is important to keep in mind is that the Elantra performed very well from a structural standpoint, a design attribute that will benefit those in many types of motor vehicle crashes, and not just the IIHS offset test. Also, the airbag senors seems to initially misread this type of crash only.. or else the car would not have done well in the NHTSA tests either...
My point: Although the IIHS test is a good measure of crashworthiness, the chances of someone being in that type of accident at that high of a speed are (and statistics show this) relatively unlikely. The strong structure of the Elantra is significant in protecting occupants in more types of crashes that just this one, and so, although the results of the IIHS test may be discouraging, I dont think any of you should feel uneasy driving your Elantra.
Note: the Echo has not been offset crash tested, although I believe I read that Toyota claims it would do as well as the Camry (I'm skeptical-the Camry is a "best pick" in its class)
My dealer sells Nissan, Hyundai, VW, Suzuki and Isuzu and reports that Hyundai has now surged past Nissan and is their biggest seller. However if the next generation of Nissan are as nice as the first glance at the new Altima this might change. Maybe it will take a kick in the pants from Renault to bring some interesting new Japanese cars to market.
I believe that Toyota said they were shooting for making the Echo fare as well as the Corolla in the side impact crash test (the only test you can compare outside of class). A goal that they achieved.
When the Echo is tested for offset crash protection and if it does not do well (when compared to others in its class), I will not make excuses for Toyota and say the test is not real world or some such. No, I will be a little upset at Toyota since safety is one of my hot buttons.
I think Hyundai is to be commended for their response so far. Yes, there is no recall as some (not I) would like, but they are investigating.
Anyway, I purchased an aftermarket alarm with remote entry and a 10-disc Sony CD changer (inside trunk-mounted) for a total of $300 plus tax (installed). It works great, but I wish the mounting were further inside the trunk as it blocks part of the trunk opening.
Anyway, now she has the CD and cassette, which Hyundai did not offer and I thought the total price (alarm and CD changer) was fair.
All I'm saying is that unless you get a CD changer, you're stuck with just the tape. Good luck, and let us know if you do figure something out!
JK
After visiting the dealership, I fell in love with the GT but unfortunately Hyundai is offering no rebate and the dealer is selling at almost sticker claiming high demand. . so I have gone back to the GLS but want to get the absolute lowest price. I don't mind waiting a couple of weeks if it would help. Any advice would be useful. Thanks
STEREO: I have even bigger stereo needs. I need to play CD's, Burned CD's, MP3's, Talk Tapes, and Plug in the audio of a Laptop DVD player.
So far the best solution for me is the Aiwa CDC-MP3 player (Currently going for $220 on Ebay and Half.com) It of course plays MP3/CD's and has an input that I can use to plug in my Mini tape player or DVD. (With an adapter) I will have to have someone professional intall it with some rubber or foam somethingrather as it reportedly has probs with skipping on the MP3. But I saw a good review from someone with an 00 Hyundai Accent.
I thought about waiting until September to buy an automatic 2001 Elentra GLS, but I found a good deal on July 1. MRSP was $14,032 -- paid $10,988 (including $500 rebate). So, if you keep your eyes open, a good deal often comes along. Check carsdirect.com to get a guaranteed price for your area...their prices are very good and it gives you a benchmark to work from...
You are right, you fill up the changer with 10 cd's. A vacant FM station is used as the "channel" for listening. There is a wired hand-held control that you can set in the area in front of the console (or maybe velcro to your dash beside the radio). This control turns the changer on and off and allows you to select CD's and tracks within the CD. There is no other component to place under the existing AM/FM cassette. Since it plays on a FM station, the volume is controlled by the radio control. I had the CD player installed along with a security keyless remote alarm as a package deal...it took them a long time but I think most of it was for the alarm.
I don't know what model # it is, but it is a Sony and was advertised as working with "any existing radio". As I mentioned my total cost was $300 installed (alarm and changer) and I would guess it would cost $125 to $175 total installed for the changer only.
By the way, I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the CD sound on the base audio set-up -- it sounded much better than the FM stations!
I have a 2001 GLS with about 7500 miles, no problems so far aside from a musty smell from the ac. Brought it to the dealer twice, and both times they did some kind of cleaning which worked for a few days, then the musty smell returned! It usually goes away after the ac runs for a few minutes. Anyone else have this problem? Also, our new GT is great, only 800 miles so far, but a lot of fun, no regrets buying either of these two Elantras. By the way, WalMart has a 10 disc CD changer with wired remote (works off FM like others mentioned) for $99. It is a strange brand name, but I bet it's made by one of the larger makers. I haven't installed it yet, but the overall quality of it looks good...
I know this isn't much comfort, but it's good to know that mine isn't the only one that seems to be constantly stuck with the choke open.
I drove my wife's GLS 5spd the other day under the same set of circumstances [drive, park, drive within 1 hour] and the same thing happened. I asked her if she noticed it happen other times but she mentioned she never payed attention. After tapping the gas pedal then it lowered.
Now I have to try it again myself. It either has 1 - a very sensitive choke
2 - something wrong with the gas pedal cabling or
3 - something wrong with some electronic sensor
Whoever finds out first please let the rest know!
Good Luck!
Hopefully you guys can find the cause before subjecting the car to the dealer.
Good luck,
Tony
I just wanted to get an alarm for my daughter and maybe get her a cd changer for Christmas. But I found it was cheaper to do it all at the same time. I think they quoted me an installed price of about $275 for the alarm (it needed a separate motor for the power locks because the Elentra uses the same wire for both open and close functions) and about $150 for the cd changer. When I didn't accept, they said they would do both for $300 (plus tax). It took them about 5 hours for the total installation. It was kind of like a used car place...they give you a high price and hope you agree and then reduce it if you don't agree...I didn't try to negotiate lower -- they said I wouldn't get a better deal anywhere else and I didn't want to waste time trying to find out!
Has anybody installed any rear custom spoilers on their elantras? I have a 2000 model that didn't come with one but I went to a custom car shop that installed one on my car for around $350 (painted to match the car also). only problem was that they couldn't locate any other spoilers to "fit" on the elantra other than the one the factory puts on. Still, I payed about $400 less than what the dealership wanted. has anyone installed fog/driving lights on their 2000 elantra? I was wondering which area did they install them under the front bumper. other than that I have 16000 trouble free miles on my car and consider it on the same class as a corolla or civic easily (if not better!)
intrepidspirit....I hate those misleading ads! Usually you can call the better business bureau and then threaten the place with that, and then they usually come down
I'll definitely check out that alarm. i have a circuit city less than a mile away from me but i'm in florida (tampa). I'm sure they all pretty much stock the same kind of stuff. Does your alarm have a panic button and also does the head/parking lights flash on and off when it is set off? Just curious. A friend of mine has a viper on his honda and he swears by them since he lives in a high crime area. Have you done some customizing on your elantra? I love the body style and it looks pretty nice with a good set of chrome rims and with a spoiler. (thats what I have on mine). I think the new elantras look great but I like the older style better.
http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/summary_small.htm
One of only 3 CARS to get a POOR SAFETY RATING
Secondly, I have heard that the elantra got great reviews on saftey....better then the civic from other sources. So everyone has their own way of testing them and different cars respond differently. But saftey doesn't phase me. I am more concerned with options appearence and performance.
Thirdly, I read your post in the Elantra vs. civic forum. If you were unimpressed with the GT, then you went in there with that "Honda is the best" ignorant attitude because the Elantra is comparable with the civic in build quality.
- Injury measures - chest
- Injury measures - leg/foot left
- head restraint design
In all of these categories, the Elantra got a "good." The Civic got "marginal" for the injury measures and "poor" for head restraint design.
I can understand why the Hyundai people might have been surprised by the IIHC results this year and asked for the retest.
Oh, come on. The structural integrity of the Elantra held up quite well.
For its price, I think Elantra is a pretty good buy - solidly built, lots of standard equipments, etc. But after driving it for 24K, I am getting frustrated at a number of minor things, e.g., thin paint, funky smell, so-so gas mileage, noise from this and that belt. Dealer is nasty. I don't regret my decision to buy it, but I am definitely not going to get another Hyundai.
This has worked for the last 20 years on all of my cars, both my Elantra and Sonata are no exception.
Hope it works.
ALSO, is it just me? Does it annoy anyone else that the AC on the Elanttra has that button that needs to be pressed to recirculate the AC air EACH time the car is restarted?! This is the ONLY thing that annoys me about the car!
Tony
First, it looks like there's two little cutouts for foglights in the front of the car. Is that what they're for and if so, how hard are they to install? What kind would I get to fit well and install simply?
Second, the speakers seem to be pretty decent with the bass. I am putting in a new head unit, amp (100W/channel) and changer. Think the spakers can hold up?
Third, I know for the VWs, there's a product you can get that will open or close your windows using commands from the remote. Do they make anything like that for this car?
Fourth...well, there is no fourth right now, but any help with the first three would be swell.
Thanks in advance!
D