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Hyundai Elantra 2001-2006

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  • jimbeaumijimbeaumi Posts: 620
    Hey! I thought Edmunds was going to keep the car for more than one year! Did I misread? And by the way, guys, the car is worth much more than $6K.
  • jimbeaumijimbeaumi Posts: 620
    Oops, I guess I did misread. Twelve months went fast because I didn't start reading about the car till I bought mine in July. Silly me!!
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,934
    Let's see, Edmunds.com is doing a comparo on 5-door cars next month, including the Elantra GT. So maybe they'll keep the GT around as their replacement long-term car!

    Well, probably not. But how about the Tiburon??
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    three oil changes. Other than a slow leak in a rear Michelin there's been absolutely no problems.
  • drkcgraydrkcgray Posts: 10
    I would like to hear from Hyundai Accent owners...any suggestions on where to find Accent message boards?
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    last post March 21. Hit more on the bottom of this page. There's also an Accent forum under hatchbacks.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    The hatchback forum has alot more action than the sedans one does.

    To its credit, I drove a rental Accent a couple months ago. It's a pretty nice car for the price class, and pretty roomy for the driver too (I am 6'3, and it was adequate for one day for me, on a 50 mile commute). The only thing is (like all Korean cars), they lose value quickly. Look for one that's a year old and save alot of money and depreciation.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    interestingly enough Enterprise Rent-a-car moves 2001 Accents at a high price IMHO. I think it's $9500 non-negotiable for a rental car with about 10,000 miles. They seem to move 'em out fast. At least in the St. Louis area.
  • jimbeaumijimbeaumi Posts: 620
    csandste: the flip side to the disappearing Accents is that a broker could have scooped them up at a reduced amount, or they went to auction. Having said that, I do share your optimism about Hyundai values dropping not-so-precipitously. My Elantra is still worth about the same or a little more than what I owe, after only 8 months.

    By the way, anyone scanning these threads and considering Hyundai v. Kia v. Daewoo, look at them in that order. You'll go back to Hyundai (better yet, step up from Accent to Elantra whenever possible).

    Happy Easter to my non-Jewish, non-Buddhist, non-Hindu, etc., friends out there!
  • mralanmralan Posts: 174
    Has anyone actually owned both? How do they compare. Did everyone select the Elantra just because of it's price?
  • jimbeaumijimbeaumi Posts: 620
    I bought my Elantra in July after about two months of looking at used and new cars of the same general size. My research included subjective sources like Car and Driver, and the more objective Consumer Reports. The reviews on the Elantra (apart from then-unknown reliability) were very good, even in CR. The last-generation Corolla did not rate as well as the 2001 Elantra in areas of ride, quietness, room and power.

    Price was a concern for me, but I still found that the content (outside of lots of features) was impressive: DOHC engine w/direct ignition, subframe mounted w/ribbed engine block and additional crankshaft counterweights; speed-sensitive steering; multi-link rear suspension and gas struts all around; side airbags. These are items not usually found in this price range. The icing on the cake was to find air, power locks/windows (driver express-down)/mirrors (heated), Michelin tires, decent cupholders and good materials in the right places. The doors close easily and solidly, the engine moves me about quickly, and the AC/heat work VERY well.

    My strong reservations about the Hyundai name kept me from even considering the Elantra until about midway during my research; quite skeptical, especially after reading about cars since age 10 (I'm 38). The warranty is attractive, yes, the price is attractive, yes, but driving the car is what brought me back to drive it again.

    No, I don't work for the company. Over the years I've watched domestic quality go up and down (generally up) and even Japanese and European automakers do the same. I am impressed with the rate of improvement at Hyundai, and otherwise would not have forked over money, of which I have very little, to buy this car. Hope I've helped!
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,934
    I've owned two Corollas but not for a long time. But I have driven the '98-'02 generation Corolla many times as a rental. When I bought my car in October 2000, I struck the Corolla off my list right away (along with several other cars) because of a tight rear seat. I have three kids, the oldest is 13, and I needed some room back there. But I liked the Elantra more than the Corolla in several other important criterion, including driving position and seat comfort, power/acceleration, styling (I really hated the '98-'02 Corolla's styling), and warranty. The Corolla had a smoother powertrain and better predicted reliability and resale value. So I would have favored the Elantra even if it cost the same as the Corolla; the fact that the Elantra cost thousands less was icing.

    I posted my test-drive report on the '03 Corolla LE 5-speed yesterday in the Corolla forum. I liked what I saw at the recent local auto show and read lots of good things about the car, and wanted to check it out and see if it was good enough to force me to prematurely trade in my Elantra. The bottom line is that it is an excellent small car, better in some respects than the Elantra, and if you don't mind spending the extra money I think it is the way to go. BUT (big but) take a long test drive before you decide. I found that the Corolla's driving position is uncomfortable to me (details in my post in the Corolla forum), while the Elantra's is just about perfect. And personally I don't think the strengths of the Corolla outweigh the price premium (in my town, about $4000 more for the LE 5-speed vs. the Elantra GLS, comparably equipped with cruise, remote locking, and side air bags). But I'd recommend driving both; the Corolla is a fine car but so is the Elantra, especially considering the price difference.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    I also started a threat "Corolla class shootout" which attempted to rank all cars in that size from top to back. It's still there, although I don't think anyone's posted in some time.

    In my particular listing I put the Elantra second to the '03 Corolla which looked like it had extremely good (Lexus like) build quality. I like the 93-97 Prizm the best of earlier Corollas. The 98-02 was decontented and dumpy IMHO.

    Only thing I dislike about Elantra is that it's handling is a bit floatier than some of the competition. Space, comfort and engine are first rate. If purchasing I'd be hard pressed to say that the difference in price between the two is justified.
  • mpgmanmpgman Posts: 723
    Can't knock the car, but I agree with Backy. The first time I sat in an Elantra I was shocked at the comfort and the leg room. Kept coming back to it and just fell in love with the GT. Corolla is great but the leg room just isn't there for the driver IMHO. I also find the Corolla seats to be too mushy. Would I buy a Corolla if everything was equal but the Corolla cost more? You bet. But it isn't and it still costs more. As to resale, the difference in value 3-5 years isn't that great that it will make or break most.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,934
    For about the same list price as a Corolla S or LE with a couple of options, you can get a fully-loaded Elantra GT with leather, sport suspension, alloys, 4-wheel discs with ABS and traction control, and moonroof. If you can handle a hatchback style, and the GLS is too "floaty" for you, be sure to check out the GT.
  • jimbeaumijimbeaumi Posts: 620
    No new posts for a few days, so I am guessing we are all out there zooming around having fun in our little cars (I know I am!).
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    The Elantra post was about to drop off the first page of the forum. So I thought I'd put one up. I've put quite a few positives about my experience. Maybe a few negatives would get some reaction.

    1. Handling is a bit oingo-boingo. I haven't driven the GT, but I expect I'd like the handling better.

    2. A remote that honks the horn and raises the trunk lid would be nice.

    3. Looks a bit like the Malibu from the side and the Impala from the front. Oh, well, the last generation E. had a Pontiac look to it.

    4. The Michelin tires are adequate and main stream, but really overpriced if I tore one up and had to replace it. I'll switch tires when the time comes. Of course Michelin Energies are common high end OEM tires. I suspect the makers get a real good buy on them so that Michelin can get rich on over priced replacement tires.

    5. I've gotten to like the gray interior in my car, but the brown interior has a dog puke look to it.

    6. The trunk lid is a bit flimy, although the rear styling is the best part of the car.

    7. Insurance costs are high. I suspect this is because of the experience with the earlier generation platform.

    8. I still with Hyundai had done a recall when the air bags didn't deploy during the crash test, I also read about the late deploying XG300's on those threads. Makes me nervous.

    9. I don't play a lot of music, but most cars should be putting CD players rather than cassettes in as standard.

    10. No cheap after market air filters available that I've found at least.

    You can see this really gets down to straining at gnats. All in all, this is by far the best car I've ever owned.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,934
    Good list. I did one like this a few months ago, I don't recall if it was here or on the Low-End Sedans board. Anyway, I agree with you 100% on 2, 5, and 8 (I have the Dog Puke interior). I have a lot of cassettes so I don't mind the casette player standard, but I wish they'd make a casette/CD combo available for a reasonable price. The handling is not the sharpest around but it doesn't bother me, especially since the ride is very smooth. I think the side looks like an Impala too (the sheetmetal, not the roofline). On the other hand, I think the side view looks a lot like the G35 too, so that ain't too bad. The Michelins have been good to me so far, but when it comes to replace them I'll probably go with something else, maybe Pirellis. The back end looks great and the lid isn't any more flimsy than any other econobox I've owned. My insurance costs are pretty reasonable, about $800/year, a little lower than the '97 Sentra I had before the Elantra. Since an air filter will last me about 2 years (don't drive that much), lack of aftermarket filters doesn't bug me.

    A couple other nits I'd toss in are: make ABS and a moonroof available together on the GLS, add bigger coat hooks, and let me control the A/C instead of turning it on automatically in defrost or mix mode (I don't know if it's good for the A/C to have it come on when it's -20 F). And maybe add a center arm rest to the back seat.
  • desgdesg Posts: 52
    You don't have a centre armrest in the back??

    Both GLS sedan and hatch here have armrests in the middle of the back seat, the Sedan even has a storage compartment in it's one. The Hatch just has a straight armrest.

    As in defrost mode you usually also want to dehumidify it is reasonable to turn the a/c on.

    Our standard here is a radio/cd. I would have likes a radio/cd/cassette player myself, so I've had to copy my cassettes to CD in order to use them in the car.

    The GLS only has one interior here, grey plastics on dash and door trims and black cloth with white/silver through it on seats etc.

    The tyres we get here are Kumho's in the main they don't seem too bad on the car. I would like to drive a car with other tyres on it for a comparison though. For some unknown reason we cannot get Hyundai genuine cruise control here for love nor money, fotunately a locally made unit works very well in the car.

    I have to say though the car impresses me and in value for money is second to none

    I've seen my car alongside a SAAB 93 and it doesn't look dissimilar in it's outline
  • jimbeaumijimbeaumi Posts: 620
    I liked csandste's list as well, because it is as short as mine would be. IMO, honking alarms are ridiculous (I am the only one who needs to know my car is secure), and in previous cars with Michelins standard, I have replaced with same or similar Michelins at competitive prices. The grey interior has a more expensive look, but I opted for beige because I wanted a brighter space; previous car had charcoal interior and for me it was a bit claustrophobic. A lighter grey would be ideal, then I could buy a black or pewter Elantra.

    If we EVER get spring here in Michigan I can't wait to wax again!
  • jimbeaumijimbeaumi Posts: 620
    Almost forgot backy -- the a/c runs in the winter to defrost and most manufacturers recommend running air even in the winter; short periods of running are supposed to keep it at peak operation (I'm no a/c expert, so I am not 100% certain why)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,934
    I agree that it's USUALLY a good idea to run the A/C with the defroster, and a good idea to run it periodically even in the winter. But I live in Minnesota, and I've always wondered if it is a good idea to run the A/C when it is twenty degrees below zero (that's Fahrenheit, not Celsius). Fortunately, it hasn't been that cold this winter, only a bit below zero on two days, but last winter it was really cold. It is a simple thing to press the A/C button myself when I turn on the defroster, if I need it. Maybe someone who is an expert in car A/C systems can tell us there is nothing to worry about when running the A/C in below-zero weather, and then I can take it off my list.

    It seems there are several differences between U.S.-spec Elantras and those in other countries. I guess if I had to choose I'll take the cruise control with alarm on my Elantra over the back seat armrest in Australia--except you can add cruise more easily than a rear arm rest!
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    I might consider these tires when my Michelins bite the big one. Is there anyone else out there who is happy or unhappy with these tires?

    The only reason I'd like an alarm chirp is to keep me from getting befuddled while searching for my car on a parking lot.
  • jimbeaumijimbeaumi Posts: 620
    Backy, it's easy to add a rear-seat armrest w/storage to your car. First, you attach some Velcro to the bottom of a shoebox...

    I remember previous cars that did not run the a/c compressor to defrost my car when temps dipped very low. So far, my Elantra has used the a/c to do so (winter wasn't our worst this year in Michigan).
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,934
    I know from experience over the past two winters that the temperature can dip pretty low, way below zero, and the Elantra dilligently turns on the A/C in defrost mode. Of course, I know it will do that, so I flick it off right away. Just shows how good the car is when this is one of my biggest complaints about it.

    Think about this one: a black grille with body-color surround (instead of chrome)... what do you think? (Maybe more for the GT...)
  • buoyantbuoyant Posts: 128
    I know I've probably mentioned this on this topic before, but it would be nice to have reading lights for the rear seat. I've got the sunroof on mine and there is no light cast into the back seat at night. I have to go back there with a flashlight if I lose something on the floor.

    All in all, I love my Hyundai though. Not only was it super cheap to buy, I don't tire of driving it like I did my last 5 spd. It may not be a sports car, but the actions of both the clutch and transmission are very smooth and that makes the whole driving experience much more enjoyable in my opinion. I don't fear stop-and-go traffic with my Elantra like I did with my last stick.
  • bri70bri70 Posts: 147
    Does anyone know if Hyundai has responded to this IIHS news release? It would be more reassuring. A small excerpt:


    "The delay allowed the driver dummy's head to strike the steering wheel, resulting in high head injury forces. In a third test, the airbag again deployed late (64 milliseconds into the crash), INDICATING THE RESULT OF THE SECOND TEST WASN'T AN ANOMALY." (my caps)

    "Clearly the airbag sensors in the Elantra aren't recognizing in time the severity of all of the crashes they need to," O'Neill points out.


    http://www.hwysafety.org/news%5Freleases/2001/pr071701.htm

  • browneybrowney Posts: 104
    If this forum had a better search feature you could search the archives for this. If you could do this type of search you would find many previous posts about this.
    I posted about 4-5 months ago that I had spoken with the customer relations group at Hyundai.
    They told me that based on all their testing there is no problem that requires any fix.
    I asked for copies of all their in house crash test data to be faxed to me, (can't hurt to ask)but never received any.
  • Hi all,

    I guess this could be my first problem on my 01 Elantra GLS. My driver side front left yellow reflector light went out. What I don't know how to do is replace the bulb. Do you have to remove the yellow plastic lenses. If so how do you do that?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Happy motoring

    Shawn
  • zigliflerziglifler Posts: 99
    take it back to the dealer i am sure it is still covered .
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