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to the list of those who will report on the snow
capabilities of this tire. We have had no snow to
speak of yet in eastern OH so the reporting will
have to wait a bit longer.
JUST FYI: The folks who manufacture VALVOLINE oil
have informed me that they will be marketing a
5W-20 weight fully synthetic oil after the first
of the year. I will continue to use Mobil 1 until
Valvoline comes out with the specific weight desig-
nated for the Accord. (By the way.....my HONDA
dealer has been doing my oil changes with the Mobil
1 which I furnish.)
berbel
I am talking about a foot of snow.
Chevron/Havoline 5W20
Pennzoil 5W20
Castrol GTX 5W20
Motorcraft 5W20
If Synthetic try
Mobil 1 0W20
still confuses me as to why he things that the longer the original oil is left in, the better. my oil is fairly dirty looking now at 4900 miles...
Thanks to everyone for your advice on the synth oil--the Valvoline product sounds good, but I'd trust the Mobil 1 as well. How much do your dealers charge to do the oil change if you provide the oil? And does that price include a filter and lube? Thanks.
Barry S.
I do not know of any dealership that would turn away a money generating service opportunity. If your dealer actually refused your car then it seems something else is going on. I also do not think that you can simply look at oil and determine its effectiveness.
All oil darkens in its process of removing heat, lubricating, and cleaning. If you take a small amount between your fingers and feel particles then it is definitely time to change it. I have never changed the oil in my cars or truck (1991, 1998 Accords and 1998 Ford Ranger) before 7500 miles between services and have never had an issue. I now have a 2004 Accord EX V6 and will continue the same practice.
The orig oil had a higher molybdenum content, probably to help with some problem with the design for breakin. Some oils used to contain higher molybdenum, but I haven't noticed any mentioning it on the containers for other cars.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Even the people here that have had mild initial problems (squeaks, whatnot) will usually say it's a great car, and the best you can get for the money.
Follow the "severe" schedule only if you drive in one or more of these conditions most of the time:
Trips of less than 5 miles (less than 10 in freezing weather)
Extremely hot weather (over 90 degrees F)
Extensive idling or stop-and-go driving
Trailer towing, driving with a car-top carrier, or driving in the mountains
Muddy, dusty, or de-iced roads
My dealer charges me for the cost of the Honda oem
filter and the actual time it takes to change the
oil. This charge usually amounts to about $15.00
total. I think this is fair.
berbel
It's minor, but instead of advertising it as heated front seats, Honda should say 1.5 heated seats instead.
Justin I think they only update long term tests every three months now. That kind of feedback should be directed to the editors -- use the Help link at the top (or very bottom) of this page.
Edit: Hmm, the blue Help tab that used to be at the top of the page seems to have run away -- just use the link at the very bottom of the page for now.
The engine gave a burnt smell after I recently changed the engine oil in jeffy lube. They used 5w-20 penzoil (not synthetic). Everytime i stop at a traffic light, the smell becomes stronger. and I can smell it when I get out of the car. I talked to the jeffy lube manager of the problem. They redid the service to make sure there is no leakage. Things has not improved, instead, it became more severe. The smell resides in the vehicle. When I opened door in the morning, the smell make be feel nausiated...
Any hints shall be appreciated.
altheaU
If I let my imagination run, I can see a digital radio connected to overlay traffic and weather on the road display. But that is just my vision. Maybe some day far far into the future.
How long is "eventually" to your opinion?
the smell seems to come out under the hood, when I get out to take a look. sometimes, it could become quite strong while driving at 30m/p and makes me nauseated...
Could it be a leakage in other areas of the engine?
Thanks,altheaU
>Any thoughts on how well the EX V6's audio system?
I have a 2004 EX V6 with Nav and XM. I love my car as well as the audio system. The sound is crisp and can go quite loud. At any reasonable listening volume it sounds very good. Great bass as well as high frequency response. There were times when I thought I heard something outside of the vehicle but it was actually on the radio.
Vopc1
It happened with the '03 as well.
Bascially, they have defective paint "shoots" at the factory. They ship the cars out anyway.
(This is the "dirty secret" about their American facotry in Ohio - poor quality control. Cars from Japan do not show these problems.)
This can affect the hood, body panels, etc.
If you buy an Accord, and see the issue, and complain, they offer to repaint. However, everyone knows it's not as good as the original factory bake. Very poor solution when you are paying a premuim for a car.
If I were you, immediately go to dealer and demand a new replacement vehicle. They should have caught in on the inspection. Offering to repaint is not a good solution.
You Said
"Very poor solution when you are paying a premuim for a car."
What premium? Over and above MSRP? Extra $ to repaint?
You also said
"If I were you, immediately go to dealer and demand a new replacement vehicle."
He should get a new car on the basis that there is a finishing nail head size bubble in the paint?
You said
"They should have caught in on the inspection."
Doesn't the buyer also have a duty to inspect/test drive/examine his car before taking final delivery? If he didn't inspect the vehicle he was spending $22K+ on, isn't that negligent? During my final delivery I noticed that I had a door panel misaligned and a crack on the plastic shield in front of the speedometer. I refused to sign the finance paperwork until the fixes were made.
I agree that the car should not have paint problems and that repaint is not a good fix, but a whole new car is absurd.
I am a extremly picky person due to the field that I am in. The vehicle was picked up at around 8pm, so I did not see every single detail. I had the vehicle for only two days and that is all I have noticed so far. The salesmen did follow-up today just to ensure that everything went well, I have not yet returned his call. I want to first look over the vehicle much closer during the daylight and make notes of anything I noticed that needs their attention. Returning the vehicle is way overboard, NO VEHICLE IS PERFECT. We took delievery of our RX300 in 2000, (it was a lease) and the guys that prepared the vehicle caused a scratch on the truck/hatch door. They tried to buff it off, but never really came off. If thats all we see as a defect, the vehicle is worth keeping.
Our two 03 Accords, after a year's ownership, have had still-unfixed (after 2 dealer attempts) brake problems, dash creaks and other interior noises.
Do we still enjoy the cars ? Yes. But the scorecard is clearly showing a quality decline. The next carmaker offering a well conceived, no-defect car as Honda did back in the 90s will get serious consideration.
If the paint issue were the only problem I had, I would be happy. But this car is not built nearly as well as the 1989 Accord it replaced. My '89 had ZERO rattles until it was broken into at 170k miles. The new one started a couple weeks after I got it. The weatherstripping rattles. The radio makes a 'popping' noise. There are numerous noises heard when going over even minor bumps in the pavement--dashboard, A-pillar trim, glove box, radio, and the sunroof (which was looked at by 3 dealers and never fixed). The brakes are under-designed and there is a bad vibration at idle. Quality control has definitely taken a turn for the worse at Honda.
This is our 2nd perfect EX-L of this Accord. I just don't see the underdesigned brakes or terrible tire syndrome.
By the way....XM rocks....In case I haven't said it in a while.
Not that we haven't had a Honda with a bad paintjob. But they worked with us and helped us into a better situation. Heck people thay build a LOT of these cars. Like I said before, I bet HUMAN BEINGS aren't created with the low defect ratio of these things. Would you return you new baby for a couple skin blemishes? It's sure gonna cost you more then $22k.