Older Honda Accords

hbund216

I don't know about that particular alarm but installing an alarm could cause you to lose your dual stage locking. Also, I've noticed that honda dealers like to blame rattling and electrical problems on alarms. If your car is new wait a bit before installing so if there are any bugs they won't blame the alarm.

lmacmil

Apart from looking pretty classy, why is the black on black color scheme so popular? The exterior shows every water spot or spec of dust and the interior is hotter than hell on a sunny day. I just don't get it.

richards38

By acknowledging the classy look you answered your own question. When a black car is shiny and clean it's elegant. So if you have a hose handy and enough time to wash your car every few days you can enjoy it. Otherwise, any dark color will show dust/dirt more than a light color. Black isn't a color at all--it reflects a mirror-like surface that must be clean to look good. Ever see a dirty mirror?

My '04 Accord is silver which doesn't show the dirt and is more practical because I don't have access to a hose in my San Francisco apartment. S.F. is cool most of the time so the black interior isn't hot and the black leather looks better than other colors in my opinion.

Most people see more of the inside of their cars than the outside, so the look of the interior should matter more than the exterior when it comes to style.

I wanted a black interior which is available only in silver on the Accord and it looks fine to me. I have to admit that a shined up black Accord looks better but the light tan interior doesn't appeal to me. It's no surprise that black on black is popular among people who can maintain it.....Richard

slawenda

Does anyone know if anything can be done about scratched leather (edge of back seat!)? Anything to make it look less obvious, or "repair" it? My leather is black, if that makes a difference.

In case you were wondering how I did this, I stupidly transported, in my back seat, a heavy box with some rough edges and even some staples on its edges (office chair in original box). Sure enough, when I was through lugging it in and out, I noticed some scratches or severe "scuffs" on the edge of the seat, which to me are fairly obvious and disappointing given that the car is not even one month old.

Any advice on how to minimize or vanish these marks/scratches would greatly be appreciated. Perhaps it may help others as well.

richards38

If the scratches are not where people sit, you could try some black shoe polish--it will transfer to clothing if people sit there. No harm in trying and you probably have some handy. Be glad your seats aren't a harder color to match.

There is also some spray stuff that's used to recolor shoes or other leather items--Magix Spray for Leather. You can buy it at a shoe repair place.....Richard

anonymousposts

There are also places that can repair leather. Try a large dealership and see if they have a contact.

Oh yeah ... no more carrying boxes on your leather seats That's what the trunk is for.

slawenda

Thanks, Richard. Have you actually tried this, or read / heard about it? Or was it an original idea, "untested"? I want to try it, but only a little hesitant, worried I might "stain" the leather with a darker polish, causing it possibly to stand out even more. Whether or not you have anything to add to this, I again appreciate what seems like a good idea.

richards38

I haven't tried to do anything to my Honda Accord leather seats which are also black. I had a leather sofa with a surface-dyed color that deteriorated and found that most things I tried to use to restore the surface color didn't adhere very well.

But if you scratched black leather down to where it's tan or gray colored, black shoe polish should darken and probably adhere to the rough, scratched area as it does to scuffed shoes.

When I tried to use the Magix spray stuff, it did adhere but wasn't durable on the seating surface.

On an area that isn't subject to friction it would surely work much better. It's like spray paint and you could spray some onto a hard surface and use a brush or Q-Tip to dab it into a scratched area. It dries very fast because it's like flexible lacquer.

Are you sure that you scratched leather? Much of the Accord's interior is vinyl that looks the same--there is leather on the seating areas but vinyl on other interior parts. If you scratched vinyl, there might be other types of fixes. Lacquer-based products could destroy the vinyl, so be careful!

I'm no expert--just thinking about what I'd do under the same circumstance.......Richard

lsc

My brother's Acura TL's leather seats had a partial tear. He took it to the dealer and I think it cost him $75 to repair it.

slawenda

As a follow-up, based on the last suggestion I called my dealer who referred me to a local upholstery repair person (with expertise in cars). With some materials and tools, he fixed the tears beautifully. An unsuspecting person would never guess there were tears there! It cost me $85, but because my car is brand new, I bit the cost. I could have left it alone, or tried shoe polish, but by spending the money to have a professional reapair it, I feel my car looks brand new again.

What amazes me is what can be done now-a-days to fix almost anything. From "ding" repair, to leather tear repair, almost any blemish can be touched up or fixed to make the car look new. While I feel good about fixing it now, I hope I don't get stuck in a pattern of fixing every cosmetic blemish from now on--could start to get expensive!

ken972

I keep a old comforter in the trunk. If I have to move something Id rather not come in contact with the leather on the back seats..I lay the comforter down first to protect it.

slawenda

As a follow-up--some of you might want to know that after calling my dealer, I was eventually referred to a upholstery/leather repair specialist, who fixed the leather tears so well that no one will probably ever notice! It cost me $85, but for a brand new car, I felt compelled to keep it looking new. Besides, someday, if I ever part with this wonderful car, having repaired the leather will increase the resale, even if ever so slightly. Mostly it makes me feel better that it still looks new! Thanks to all who gave advice--I didn't know there were people who "repair" leather.

Lastly, I now carry an old blanket in my car trunk now in case I need to protect my seats! Great advice!

mbt1

Has anyone noticed that a lot of Honda's sedans and coupes do not have a hood that the driver can see from the inside of the car? Sit in a Civic and Accord and see if you can see where the front of the car begins. Not only do the cars give the feel of driving a hoodless truck or minivan, these cars, aesthetically, do not have the classy, rich look that many German and American luxury sedans share. In fact, one of the reasons that the new Chrysler 300 has gained so much attention is that it has a balanced look. The Chrysler is not wowing its audience with break-through technology but bringing customers to showrooms with its look. German cars do likewise with both engineering prowess and beauty even despite lousy reliability. Many Hondas have a jelly-bean or wedge look that, albeit aerodynamic, is downright ungly at certain angles. Cars should have, as their dominant exterior trait, a retangularity to them. Honda should design cars to be cars, not missile or airplane-like objects that boasts low drag coefficients (Honda touts the Accord's 0.29 drag coefficient). I appreciate Honda's reliability and value, but its recent design direction has steered me and many others like me, I suspect, away. People don't buy cars for just transportation; like the clothes they wear, people value style as well as practicality and functionality. This comment is not meant as a flame but a message to Honda if it has eyes and ears in this forum. Design cars that look like stately cars to go with your legendary reliability and value, and I will return as a customer. Until then, I will go look for a car to drive, not a plane-car to fly over pavement. I would appreciate comments from others who share my view.

aggie1995

Has anyone noticed that a lot of German sedans and coupes fans do not have a car that the driver can see in their driveway? Sit in your house or apt and see if you can see where the the car is at all. I'm not sure if it is the outragous pricing that keeps them from catually affording one or the fact that it is always at the dealer for repairs but there is something disconcerting about the fact that I never seem to be able to see or orxperience that unique German road feel I hear so much about. Not only do the cars not give the feel of driving a car, truck or minivan at all, these cars, aesthetically, do not have the wedge look that, is downright aerodynamic at certain angles, that many Honda and Toyota cars share. Toyota is not wowing its audience with break-through looks but bringing customers to showrooms with its technology. Honda cars do with both engineering prowess and aerodynamics even despite unparalled reliability. I appreciate German cars lack of reliability and good looks, but their recent value proposition has steered me and many others like me, I suspect, away. People don't buy cars for just to look good in them; like the clothes they wear, people value the functionality, durability, and quality they provide. They also don't want to fix a button everytime they wash a shirt. This comment is meant as a flame to Honda if it has eyes and ears in this forum. Keep working to increase the quality, reliability, and value that makes your cars so legendary and cars like the Accord & Civic will continue to sell in the 100's of thousands as they have in the past. You may consider a design philosophy change on the next gen of vehicles that you put out but keep the focus on the engineering first. If you don't I warn you I will, I repeat, I will drive a German or American car. This is a warning!

justin

huh? those past few posts were responding to what exactly?

haven't we debated this before? Hondas are "supposed" to be reliable and efficient, and European makes are built for performance and safety.

so what is the problem? i must have missed a post somewhere...

anonymousposts

I love our new 5-speed EX-L way more than the EX-L autmatic. It is just more fun-to-drive, feels faster, and seems to be getting about 32 MPG in our daily driving.

You can't say that the Accord isn't built for safety. With the curtain airbags the Accord and Camry were the only midsize cars to earn a good side impact crash test rating. Add to that the new ACE structure Honda has developed, side and side curtain airbags in all 05 Accords, etc and it's pretty obvious Honda is starting to put an emphasis on safety as well.

richards38

You do have a great car and manual transmissions are fun in flat areas with light traffic. But drive in San Francisco with heavy traffic on short steep hills, stop signs/lights at every corner, and bumper-to-bumper traffic snarls. Then tell me if you still prefer the manual transmission ;-) ........Richard

anonymousposts

I live just outside of suburban Atlanta so there aren't too many hills and I only have to deal with traffic 2 days a week. The rest of my commute has pretty light traffic.

bioman

to know that people who own Hondas have so few problems that in order to have something to complain about one has to get down to appearances and personal preferences. Yes, there are some mechanical and quality issues, but compared to Ford, GM, BMW, etc. Hondas are relatively trouble free. So, lets keep complaining about the shape of the hood and the lack of key cylinders in the passenger side doors and trunk.

justin

... crap brakes, transmission problems, engine oil filters, rattles, headliners sagging, hard starting problems....

Honda is no worse than any other car maker when it comes to reliability from my experience. but i really don't understand this claim that they are somehow BETTER.

Honda FINALLY admitted to having a problem on Gen 7 Accords with regard to pads/rotors/calipers. i had a rather rude person called "jolene" at Honda try to tell me that if they replace my rotors (after being resurfaced 3 times in 7 months), it would be as a one time customer service issue. she then asked me, "if we replace these FOR YOU, when will you consider it NOT Honda's fault when they go bad again?" i couldn't believe it! HELLO HONDA! if something breaks on one of your cars, whose fault SHOULD it be? blows my mind....

like someone else said, i have enough intelligence to get and keep a job to make money to buy their car, but they don't think i am smart enough to know how to press a brake pedal.

on another web-site, can't mention it here, there are a lot of Honda-Techs that post. they say that Gen 7's are notorious for being underdesigned when it comes to brake system. no fix in sight. lovely.

so anyway, i wish i had problems with missing locks or ugly hoods. those would be GREAT!

sockpuppet1969

Bravo! Excellent response. That's why ice cream comes in different flavors.

gee35coupe

So far you are about the only one to STILL be complaining about the brakes so voraciously. In fact actual quality complaints are very rare for a car that still sells 35,000 units a month.

I direct you to the Mercedes C-class forum for a rude awakening. I thought I wanted one.

bioman

I sorry that I hit a nerve regarding your experiences with your Honda's brakes and some dingbat customer service rep who is really a disservice rep. I understand your frustration and I see your point. I have been in your position because I have owned GMC and Ford SUVs as well as Toyotas, Preludes, Integras and now a 04 Accord Coup EX V6. The 95 Jimmy I owned went back to the dealer for major repairs 16 times during the 4 years I owned it. The 99 Explorer has had a much better record but it has had four recalls and four other warranty repairs in addition to some really bad service from the dealership from which I purchased it. From my experience there is no doubt that Hondas and Toyotas are better products. During the 3500 miles I have driven my 04 Accord Coup I had a brief headliner issue that seems to have cured itself with the warmer weather and that's it. The car's performance has exceeded my expectations. The same was true for the Prelude and Integra that I owned. No major problem with either car. So I guess that our experiences are relative to the luck of the individual unit we happened to have purchased. The laws of probability seem to favor those people who purchase Hondas rather than GM or Ford.

imidazol97

You certainly aren't the only person in the forum to complain about various issues including the brakes. I can't believe someone tried to act like you're the only person with a brake complaint.

gee35coupe

And 3 Civic SI's. Only one warranty trip for all of them. They fixed the shrinking window trim that affected all early coupes and they resurfaced the rotors. We warped them at a carwash so they did us a favor. The only car that compares was a Mazda Protege that was problem-free.

Every time I decide I'm going to buy outside the Honda brand I check the forum and get the jitters. Such as the C-class forum where even Mercedes die-hards can't recommend the car from a quality reliability standpoint. There are members there that go so far as to say buying a C-class out of warranty is "almost reckless".
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I never said he was the only one. i just pointed out for a car that sells 35,000 a month, if the entire model run had bad brakes, there would be a much higher number of complaints. Heck, Honda has recalled all V6 transmissions but you haven't seen many bytes wasted on tranny complaints. Methinks Justin has bad brakes. Be mealsothinks his car is the exception and not the rule.

anonymousposts

Also, and correct me if I am wrong, Justin has only taken his car to one dealer. There are some incompetent dealer service centers out there as well.

tlauro

There actually is a Honda Recognized issue with the 03 brakes. Seems the pad compound was a good match to the stock rotors. Should you have your brakes done, they should not only resurface the rotors but replace the pads with the new formulation.

IMO though, it's probably best for those with continued problems to just buy a set of Brembo Blanks and Hawk pads. The total cost is priceless when it comes to having to return to the dealer three times to get it fixed.....for such a short time. Especially since the new combo is 10x better than stock stuff.

tlauro

not sure what prompted your notes, but in my area, all types of imports are popular. take it from me and my wife who have owned many of the higher priced BMW's and MBZ's too....they all have issues too. Many of them have more than the simple Honda issues you're hearing about on forums like this.

The value proposition is really just a matter of your wallet. We were able and are still able to spend $50k on a car, but my views have changed to where I honestly don't feel they are worth it. Money goes best invested elsewhere IMO. Nothing different than what we felt over the past few years, but we each tried the finer vehicles in life and have passed today.

The american car comments...I grew up in a family that owned GM dealerships (3) and there's no difference there either. The only things that I consistantly have seen with the american vs import wars which is still true....the american cars have been better out of the gate for the first couple years, but eventually turn to crap. The imports may have a few more bugs at first, but many more are less troublesome as time and miles go on.

Just my two Lincolns worth from experience.

tlauro

Not sure I agree with your assessment of the Hondas looks. While I'm not saying they are the best looking rides on earth, they do have a style that carries through the line and has buyer eating them up at the showroom.

IMO, Chrysler is pretty forward in designing nice cars, but it takes a dead stop there. I'd never own a Chrysler product based on their track record and what I've seen up to now. The new 300...butt ugly to me. I like the old style, but the new one....no thanks.

Not sure this thread will ever have a solid end as style is so individualistic, it can't really be concluded on a message board.

I like the looks of my Accord and consider it a fairly stylish ride compared to many of the other cars out there. The hood could use some nice lines to accent it, but hey...perhaps on a refresh. To me, it's a great value in this price range...not many interiors can compare. Leather, Navi, Wood Grain, good quality materials, style inside and out....it's been a good package for us.

honda00

Does anyone have any insight as to when Honda will be redesigning the Accord?

I currently have a 2000 Accord and I only owned it for a year before they did the new redesign. I plan on buying another Accord in a couple of years but I don't want to buy it in the last year before a redesign.

Does anyone have any guesses when we will see a redesign? How often do they usually do it?

richards38

Honda is on a 5 year cycle so the next generation will be the 2008 Accord--available probably in September, 2007.....Richard

hmurphy

Justin is certainly not the only one complaining about his brakes, as you clearly stated in your post. There have been many postings, including mine, about recurring brake problems.

And to second tlauro, Honda has admitted to me and others that there are problems with the brake design. I sincerely doubt that the company would make such an admission if there were only a handful of complaints.

At any rate, any complaints on this board are nicely balanced by your and anonymousposts' many rapturous comments about your Accord ownership experience, so I wouldn't worry about us whiners sullying the Honda name.

gee35coupe

I quote myself....

"So far you are about the only one to STILL be complaining about the brakes so voraciously."

Now could ya puleezze show me a recent series of posts that compare with Justins? I won't hold my breath.

I don't know how you guys use your brakes, but mine work fine. And I drive like a bat-out-of-Hades. I know for a fact that our new EX-L will do 120+ indicated mph. And I stopped with no problems. I don't get it. If the brakes were inherently bad there would be more complaints than we see here on Edmunds. The Accord problems forum does not bear out any widespread brake issues that can be attributed to bad design.

hmurphy

...since you personally aren't having a problem, then no problem exists.

There haven't been a ton of people complaining on this forum about their EX-V6 transmissions, but the recent recall indicated there is a problem.

I was told by the Honda Corp rep that there was a problem with the 03 pads. That's about the best evidence I can give that it affected many cars. Perhaps not yours, but many nevertheless.

If you're tired of hearing about it, imagine how tired we are of dealing with it. I'm planning to ditch this car as soon as the dealer completes its umpteenth brake job in 15 months.

bjorkman

I am in the process of shopping for an Accord. I checked out a 1993 Accord recently. The air conditioning felt it was only getting half cold. I looked into the window (port) above the dryer, and sure enough ... it was low on R-12 (Freon). Today, I looked at a '94 Accord, a different design, and this system (the R-134 systems), and it was worse. No cold air at all. And I could not find the dryer on this newer design Accord.

Is it common for the early and mid 90s Accords to loose that much refigeration?

I'd like to know if A/C systems are (overall) problematic on Accords around this age. I know of cars going on 7-10 years of age that have hardly leaked refigeration, and after viewing two Accords, it seems this is a problem. I'd hate to buy an Accord, and find out something huge is wrong, like the compressor - which would be terribly expensive.

If anyone has any info to share, I'd really appreciate it.

Thank you.

snakehair

I have seen the Honda report that lists the VIN numbers affected by the brake problem and the detailed instructions on how to deal with it, compliments of my friendly Honda service writer. Although my VIN wa outside the list printed, he casually wrote up the order to replace the pads and turn the rotors (10K miles). His remark upon being questioned as why I was having the work authorized waas to the effect that if I had the problem, then they fix it. Good answer. Honda brake issues ARE recognized in writing by Honda, and they affect many vehicles. I do not use my brakes hard, do not wash the car when brak rotors are hot, and watch the torquing of the lugs carefully. May be why it took over 10K to show problem. Have 15K and no more problem yet.

gee35coupe

"crap brakes", "resurfaced 3 times in 7 months", "say that Gen 7's are notorious for being underdesigned when it comes to brake system"....

That is not typical. The Honda "issue" involved a simple "reformulation" of the brake pads. That is not gonna cure that guys problem. Read that post then read mine and get back to me on who you think is more guilty of hyperbole. Or better yet, read back a couple of months and let me know if there happen to be a significant number of brake specific posts in the Accord problem forum. A certain amount is to be expected but for the Accord to be guilty of "crap brakes" and "underdesigned" I think there should the topic specifically devoted to this issue.

I stand by my statement that there is nothing wrong with the design of the brakes. There may have been a few cars built with bad components, but that does not mean the design is bad as he asserted.

imidazol97

snakehair: Sounds like you have an honest dealer who realizes more goes wrong with some cars than a company may admit to. He deserves referrals of customers to him. He's like my dealer who keeps on earning my business for honesty.

justin: Go to all the Accord discussions here and search for brakes starting in September 2002. There's a pattern. Despite the Clintonlike denials about not a design problem, there is a problem with 'something' in the brake system, materials of rotors/pads, balance/proportioning front to rear, suppliers delivering subminimum materials, etc.

You're not going to be made whole in this unless Honda puts on corrected rotors, corrected pads, and balance/proportioning valves, perhaps new calipers. You might be happier to see what aftermarket parts some people have used. Note, cutting the rotors down is not good. It removes an amount of metal and reduces the rotor's ability to serve as a heat sink/dissipator for the great heat generated turning kinetic energy into heat to stop that car. New rotors are needed. One cut on rotor that is light may not affect the rotor much, but not two or three times...

tlauro

I too am aggressive with my Accord, especially given the mods I"ve done. Regarding the brake design...it's not a design issue, a material issue. Edmunds may not have a number of complaints that makes you feel as such, but then, there are better boards regarding the 7th gen to surf and those are the ones most active with much more information regarding our cars. Edmunds only touches on a few things here and there. Just look at the tranny situation....how many folks here had issues? Go to the other various boards and you'll see tons that failed and had signs of problems well in advance of Hondas official announcement....especially noticable on the Acura boards with folks who have suffered 5spd auto problems well before the 7th gen was out too. Thankfully some of those particular issues were fixed early on too.

tlauro

while I agree the brake issues here are more related to the composition of the materials used not the general architecture of the brake system, that does fall under the design of the system. Just as the design of a building includes the materials used to build it. We're splitting hairs though.

however since there are three TSB's for the brake system alone, one could argue that Honda could have done a better job at designing and building a brake system.

TSB 04-012 - Brake Pedal is Hard to Press at Start-Up
TSB 03-069 - Front Brake Noise or Judder
TSB 04-026 - ABS Light Comes On

I can email you the official Honda TSB's from the dealer if you need them.

lmacmil

1) I have a problem, therefore everyone must be having problems or 2) I'm not having a problem, therefore there probably isn't a problem.

In either case, the evidence is anecdotal and not indicative of the Accord (or any other vehicle) population as a whole. Anyone who surfs internet message boards knows that they tend to be populated by enthusiasts (whatever the topic) who typically are quite passionate about their area of interest. They also tend to extrapolate from their experience to the population as a whole. Guys, you can't do it.

We're never going to get Justin and gee35coupe to agree so let's move on...

justin

gee35 problably won't admit problems with Hondas. he has a lot invested in Hondas, both financially, and emotionally. and the fact is, his love for them is so intense that he won't have problems. i overlooked problems on my VW's for years....:) i would never expect him or his to agree with me. and i don't have any problem with that. i am personally glad he enjoys his cars so much to keep buying them! he won't want to admit it, but we are both what lots of other people consider compulsive car buyers haha.

however, if you go to the actual HONDA TECH website, where Honda aficionados post, you will see a different pic that the Honda lovers here provide. on that website, the transmission problem is not really a problem - because there is a fix for it. the brake issues are a known problem, but Honda is not willing at all to even investigate. they are fine with "it is the owners fault".

people are confusing the earlier brake pad issue with 03 models with the real brake issue. i have the updated pads. still have had to have front brakes resurfaced 3 times in 7 months, as well as REAR rotors resurfaced.

there are people on the other site that have had ROTOR replacements, and 1000 miles later, the vibrations are back. that is what i feared - replacement of one crap part with another crap part doesn't solve the problem. or, something with the way the calipers hold the pads or yadda yadda...

again, i realize that lots of people refuse to believe that Honda is no better than other cars. when i bought the Accord, i defended it tooth and nail against the "haters" that bought Camry's and Mazda6's. i had Honda and Acura products in the past that were really good cars. but i finally had to wake up and admit the problems, online, so i could take part in the boards that offered solutions, or at least some sympathy haha.

i keep posting here because for all of the "love" that is spread about Honda's, people that are looking to purchase one need to know the truth. if i can save one person from making a mistake, or at least get them to at least THINK about what they buy, i will have better car karma on the next car i buy...;)

pat

Excellent post: lmacmil Aug 3, 2004 9:20am

And I agree - it's time to move on.

aggie1995

my response was to mtb1.

It was part humor part truth. I was only trying to point out that the same complaints that he had about the Accord could be said about the vehicles he preferred just phrased differntly. No insult was intended to him or anyone else.

tlauro

I'm sorry justin, but if you've had your brakes serviced in some manner three times in seven months, then it's either something you're doing or something with your specific vehicle. I tend to doubt it's the car though as by now I'm sure the dealer has replaced just about everything involved. You're likely riding your brakes if they are indeed warped. There's definitely something fishy if your rear rotors are warped as that is very uncommon.

I would also question if they actually resurfaced your rotors or actually replaced them. I don't think turning them according to specifications would leave them in a tollerance range that is acceptable to drive on.

If the dealer indeed changed the pads to the correct compound, then again, your issues lie elsewhere than with the overall design of the brakes.

I'll agree that many folks have the initial issue with the brakes warping, but as you said...that TSB is from Oct 03 and the 04's are on the new pads already. However, I don't see too many having an issue a second or third time. Again, the system is fine, and I doubt its a flaw throughout the line/design.

Lastly, I've said it before, in your case, go spend a few bucks on Brembo Blanks and pads....the dealer will likely install them for free given your situation. In my case, I have already prompted the service manager that if mine goes in a second time, I'll bring the parts if he puts them on.

Just my last two lincolns on the matter. It's been beat to death.

anonymousposts

Gee would be the first to complain if our Accord gave us problems. However, we have either had really good luck with the 03+ Accords we have owned or overall the Accord is still a great quality car. Gee likes Hondas but isn't nearly as passionate about them as I am. He loved his 2000 Silverado until it started giving him more problems than he thought it was worth. If you are at that point with your Accord then by all means move on to something you feel you will be moer satisfied with. You can get great deas now on everything from a 6 to a Passat to a G35, etc.

hmurphy

I've had the same recurring brake problems that you have. A quick search on the NHTSA complaints site shows more than 40 similar complaints about recurring rotor warping.

I've never had a problem like this with any previous cars. It's not your driving style.

My advice is to ignore these comments on your driving style, sell the car, and find something else.

gee35coupe

40 complaints out of 750,000 copies doesn't spell doom. Heck nearly the same percentage of CRV's have gone up in smoke after the first oil change. No recall. There was a great debate on whether that was Honda's fault. NHTSA investigated and said no.

Strange...There's also not a NHTSA recall on the Accord brakes even with a whole 40 reports. Go figure.

I have no problem admitting Honda has a problem if there is one. I just don't see the problem being as bad as the original post that started this discussion.

inkie

I have a 2000 accord no problems with brakes. But I will be changing soon. Your message on brembo blanks and hawk pads sounds interesting to me. Where did you purchase the parts? Thanx.

tlauro

you can find the brembo blanks at tire rack or like the pads, at other online/brick & morter shops. find a good local performance shop and check with them or even your dealer really. I get most of my stuff through a local installer that I trust and use. If you have a Sedan let me know...I'll track down the part numbers as tire rack won't show the pads being available, however, they are the same as a previous year Honda....not sure which, as my installer got them for me and all fits well.