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Good luck Spurrier.
I was shopping for the 2002 Sonata LX today and found one fully loaded (Sunroof, ABS)--after some negotiation, the dealer offered $19,100 out the door. I declined but now wonder if I should have grabbed it. Anyone else received better deals than this?
Dave
I was shopping for the 2002 Sonata LX today and found one fully loaded (Sunroof, ABS)--after some negotiation, the dealer offered $19,100 out the door. I declined but now wonder if I should have grabbed it. Anyone else received better deals than this?
Dave
Now on to my question. I'm looking to buy a Sonata. I want the GLS with auto transmission, and no extra's (except for maybe floormats). Carsdirect.com quotes me $16,800, which is right at invoice price, and MSRP is $18,000. How much is a good price I should try to negotiate a dealer down to? These prices stated above are with destination charges, but not tax & license. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
for 2002? I dunno. Where do you live? If you live in indiana(western indiana) Ohio(s.west) or KY(north west) or maybe even W.VA(north western w. va) ya may wanna call a few of these dealerships. Kerry Hyundai, near Cincinnati, usually knock off $2000 off MSRP w/o baragining much.Hatfield in Columbus is th best bet....they'll beat Kerry by a few bucks and maybe add a few more towards trade-in,too, and lower % for financing.$16,000 sounds right...have heard of some for $15,599 awhile back.(factory authorized sale).
Just my two cents...
Frank
I have a 2001 Sonata base with sunroof package that I purchased Dec. of 2000. In the year since, I have had to have the driver's door lock actuator(2 visits), the stereo(2 visits), center console trim(2 visits), and the right side mirror(3 visits)replaced. Since I am working with a very pleasant dealership, I have not really minded the number of visits.
In early Dec., the car started having a bad vibration along with difficulty maintaining a steady idle when it is in gear at a complete stop. At times it seems the car wants to stall. I took it in for that issue along with a sharp poping sound coming from the sunroof area when the car goes over a bump. I took it in and was told that it was not recommended to adjust factory settings(idle speed)and to address the sunroof issue would require a complete tearing down of the sunroof assembly which could cause worse problems. Since they accidently stained one of my seats, I brought it back two days later. At that point, they did adjust the idle. This did not fix the problem.
The dealership contacted to see how the car was running and I told them there was no improvement and I was disappointed. They had me bring the car in again but this time they handed me the keys to a loaner and sent me home. Twelve days later, I get a call from the service manager requesting that I pick up my car asap. They were unable to find anything.
That conversation took an unusual turn when the main reason for my needing to pick my car up was they did not want the hassle of dealing with Hyundai corp. about possible replacement of the vehicle. That comment was followed by 'it's a 4-cyl. Hyundai and not a Honda, so what can you expect'.
I picked up the car with the idea that I was going to take this to the next level. I called Hyundai and told them what was going on and they said given that the car is 1yr. old and has only 7063 miles on it, this should not be happening and a claim was opened up to resolve this issue.
I unfortunately have already expereinced this process with another manufacturer so I have a idea what I am in for but I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience dealing with Hyundai in this way. Thanks for any info.
I know this is an open ended question but when should I think about changing the front brake pads for my Sonata? I was just in for an oil change (@ 20K) but forgot to ask them to check my brakes. I want to save myself from an(unnecessary) trip to the dealer if I could wait till next oil change @ 25K. FYI, I don't ride my brakes & don't feel anything unusual w/ the braking. Thx.
>I know this is an open ended question but
>when should I think about changing the
>front brake pads for my Sonata?
>===============
Happy New Year to you! =;-) This may sound kinda simplistic but why don't you pull the front wheels and take a look at your brake pads? In fact - you may be able to crawl under and see the pads well enough, without removing the wheels!
http://www.rte2hyundai.com/
The warranty was $700 for the Sonata. Ryan was the salesman. I got the price by pitching 2 dealers against each other. The other dealership was Nashua Hyundai in New Hampshire.
good luck.
You should get a call shortly from the dealership about an appointment time and date...the guy usually comes around to the dealerships once every month or so in his area. If you have a good one, it should take 10 seconds to get things going.
I placed a second call to Hyundai cause I have not heard from my dealership (Doten Automotive in Richmond California). They were disappointed that the car was not already at the dealership and instructed me to contact the dealer asap.
When I contacted the dealer, I was told the the district rep was at the dealership last week and my case was discussed. The service writer told me that I was not called because they are adivsed to be very careful in what is said since there is an open claim. I am to expect a call within the next day or so.
In answer to the question about adjusting the idle, it is adjustable from the mechanical standpoint (mine was) but there is the on board computer that attempts to interpret the change. On my car the computer has decided the adjustment is not needed and has made it so the change never took place.
It has been determined that all 2001 Sonatas with 4 cyl. have a bad vibration at least according to the service manager of my dealership. That statement is backed by the district tech people. According to Hyundai, the service manager along with the district tech people have the final say. That means that they want to close the claim.
I spoke with Hyundai and let them know that this is unsatisfactory and they are very close to losing a faithful customer. They will hand it over to the regional people. I can't say as I am surprised by what is taken place.
My plan is to keep after Hyundai even if that means getting the BBB involved. In the meantime, I will have to drive the sunroof popping, brake vibrating, idle shaking car.
Conversations are normal and there is no internal buffeting unless bizarre winds are involved. You will get used to the lines of the car with it on.
I just test drove a base version with package 6. It drove well. I started it cold from the dealer lot when outside temp was mid-30s. When merging into the highway, I did notice that the tranny remained in 2nd gear a little longer and RPMs increased before shifting to 3rd. I am not sure if this is the shifting problem that everyone has been discussing in the 'problems' message board. I hope this is not an annoying problem.
Also how is $18500 for a GLS V6 with package 6?
that would pretty much put things into perspective. i have a '96 sonata 2.0 with manual tranny and was able to get it to 60 in less than 9.5 secs so review numbers just didn't make sence.
i was also wondering about shiftronic mode (my experience with auto trannies is none - european syndrome i guess). when you switch to it do you have complete control of shifting or computer interferes anyways? what impact does it have on performance and does it come close to manual tranny?
thanks in advance.
The Hyundai Tippy is like all others. You cannot violate RPM programming parameters with any shift. I like the Tippy concept in autos as it does make it easier for auto shifters, like myself, to work the gears for better vehicle attitude and road placement.
Stratus78---is that a no-dicker dealer price or what you consider reasonable price? I would run the Edmunds #'s and shoot for TMV.
It looks like one of the sales persons in the dealership quoted $18573 over the net for the wrong vehicle. I had asked for a GLS V6 with Package 6. Anyway the sales man I talked to said that since they had already quoted me 18.5K they would honor it. TMV is 18K. The dealer quoted an out the door price of 20013 (18573+ 1200 (tax) + 180 (license) + 60 (Dock fees ? - could be documentation). What do you guys think of this price?
Also I am not able to make up my mind between the Ardor blue or the ruby red. I 've seen the red and it looks good. However its been my life time ambition to get a metallic dark blue car. I don't know how dark the ardor blue is. The website doesnt give much of an idea. I guess I will have to visit dealer lots looking for a blue one.
About the ardor blue, that is the color I will most likely get. It's not really too dark like you're saying, and it's not metallic, but it looks very very nice on the Sonata. Nice enough to make my mind up
The quality of the show cars was excellent. One shopper mentioned that there were small holes in the headlight and taillight lenses. Someone else explained that it was to keep the lenses from fogging.
The display was very large and had several of each model for inspection. Last year, Hyundai was in another display hall, this year it was right up there with Ford/GM/Daimler-Chrysler. What a difference a year makes.
Which state did you purchase it in? The insurance here in NYC in crazy.
If I was considering a Sonata I'd probably shop the Optima as well. The '01's were decontented and more expensive than the Sonata, but I think that's been changed for '02. They seem to be in less demand so the dealers might be more desparate. I drove '01 Sonatas and Optimas and thought the Optimas had a slightly firmer suspension, although I've never read this and it's probably my imagination. I drove them several months apart.
All nice cars but the Elantra is real sweet for the money.
Oh,sorry I'd pay about $17,500...that is with(?) the $1000 Hyundai cash back for Loyalty buyer.
Sounds ok.
Thanks, Waxy
Maybe this is something to look into.
Tony
I think it would be great if there were a separate "check gas cap" light, since that seems to be the #1 cause of "check engine" being lit. Think about it: to the average owner, checking the gas cap is the furthest thing, both intellectually and physically, from looking helplessly into the engine compartment, yet it's a very common cause.
Despite the fact that the information about the relationship between tightening the gas cap properly and the "check engine" light is obliquely buried in the owner's manual, many owners don't remember all those little things, and looking up "check engine" in the index won't take you to the relevant info.
Yes, yes, I know there are a lot of technical and practical reasons why a separate light is not feasible, so please don't lecture me. On the other hand, when the average driver sees "check engine" come on, it inspires real dread at first, then they learn to disregard it. When the gas cap is such a likely culprit on Hyundais, it'd be nice to lower that fear factor with a more relevant warning. I can dream, can't I?