Hyundai Sonata 2005 and earlier

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  • alharalhar Member Posts: 11
    One of the Hyundai dealers here has added a 2nd sticker of $999. "Added Value" they call it, for simply prepping the car for sale. Of course they are willing to deal from MSRP + 2nd Sticker. The local Kia dealer doesn't use the 2nd Sticker ploy.

    Good luck Spurrier.
  • dmarzo1dmarzo1 Member Posts: 37
    Hi,

    I was shopping for the 2002 Sonata LX today and found one fully loaded (Sunroof, ABS)--after some negotiation, the dealer offered $19,100 out the door. I declined but now wonder if I should have grabbed it. Anyone else received better deals than this?

    Dave
  • dmarzo1dmarzo1 Member Posts: 37
    Hi,

    I was shopping for the 2002 Sonata LX today and found one fully loaded (Sunroof, ABS)--after some negotiation, the dealer offered $19,100 out the door. I declined but now wonder if I should have grabbed it. Anyone else received better deals than this?

    Dave
  • hjr2hjr2 Member Posts: 105
    Maybe $18,000-$18,500 tops.
  • manholemanhole Member Posts: 5
    By out the door, I assume you mean the price includes tax & license? If so, the car is actually around $17,300 - $17,500, which is not bad at all for a LX with option 6. The invoice on the LX without option 6 is $18,000, so getting it for less along with the $1,100 option 6 package seems like a bargain to me.

    Now on to my question. I'm looking to buy a Sonata. I want the GLS with auto transmission, and no extra's (except for maybe floormats). Carsdirect.com quotes me $16,800, which is right at invoice price, and MSRP is $18,000. How much is a good price I should try to negotiate a dealer down to? These prices stated above are with destination charges, but not tax & license. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
  • hjr2hjr2 Member Posts: 105
    in 1999 we cold have gotten a gls loaded with everythign minus ABS for $17299, we got one for $17,700(saved us about 200 miles round trip drive iof we would have went to cheapest dealership, which we did do last year for 2001 tibby).

    for 2002? I dunno. Where do you live? If you live in indiana(western indiana) Ohio(s.west) or KY(north west) or maybe even W.VA(north western w. va) ya may wanna call a few of these dealerships. Kerry Hyundai, near Cincinnati, usually knock off $2000 off MSRP w/o baragining much.Hatfield in Columbus is th best bet....they'll beat Kerry by a few bucks and maybe add a few more towards trade-in,too, and lower % for financing.$16,000 sounds right...have heard of some for $15,599 awhile back.(factory authorized sale).
  • drimpledrimple Member Posts: 47
    Edmund's TMV puts a fully loaded LX at around $18,900. Of course that number will vary a little bit depending on where you live and what color you want. Don't get caught up in getting the absolute price. If it is within a couple hundred of what you feel comfortable paying, get it! Life is too short to worry about saving a spare buck or two.

    Just my two cents...
  • hjr2hjr2 Member Posts: 105
    that was the 16grand i quoted to you, auto and not much else.
  • astrolastrol Member Posts: 312
    Sorry good buddy for the delay. I get mine at CarQuest Auto Parts for $10.50 a pop. I think I paid $.04 more for the second GE bulb which was just last week. The first one was in September, I think. Not too bad of an increase but remember these are standard halogen replacements. Nothing 'trick' about them. I do intend to compare their longevity to the stock units.
  • manholemanhole Member Posts: 5
    I was refering to the GLS. I live in central california (Modesto). I'd be very happy to get it for $16,000, because CarsDirect wants $16,800, which sounded like a good deal to me until I saw some of the posts on here.
  • frankpcbfrankpcb Member Posts: 27
    I am looking at purchasing a 02 Elantra GT and would like to buy the extended warranty too. What dealership (name and phone #) sold it to you for $700.00 (do u also remember the saleman's name too. Drove the elantra gt and sonata back to back, elantra rode just as smooth and steered better than sonata, I also like to shift and it is impossible to find a stick shift sonata. Thanks for your help

    Frank
  • cajunboycajunboy Member Posts: 4
    I am wondering if anyone here has had any experience dealing with Hyundai corp. in regards to failed repairs.

    I have a 2001 Sonata base with sunroof package that I purchased Dec. of 2000. In the year since, I have had to have the driver's door lock actuator(2 visits), the stereo(2 visits), center console trim(2 visits), and the right side mirror(3 visits)replaced. Since I am working with a very pleasant dealership, I have not really minded the number of visits.

    In early Dec., the car started having a bad vibration along with difficulty maintaining a steady idle when it is in gear at a complete stop. At times it seems the car wants to stall. I took it in for that issue along with a sharp poping sound coming from the sunroof area when the car goes over a bump. I took it in and was told that it was not recommended to adjust factory settings(idle speed)and to address the sunroof issue would require a complete tearing down of the sunroof assembly which could cause worse problems. Since they accidently stained one of my seats, I brought it back two days later. At that point, they did adjust the idle. This did not fix the problem.

    The dealership contacted to see how the car was running and I told them there was no improvement and I was disappointed. They had me bring the car in again but this time they handed me the keys to a loaner and sent me home. Twelve days later, I get a call from the service manager requesting that I pick up my car asap. They were unable to find anything.

    That conversation took an unusual turn when the main reason for my needing to pick my car up was they did not want the hassle of dealing with Hyundai corp. about possible replacement of the vehicle. That comment was followed by 'it's a 4-cyl. Hyundai and not a Honda, so what can you expect'.

    I picked up the car with the idea that I was going to take this to the next level. I called Hyundai and told them what was going on and they said given that the car is 1yr. old and has only 7063 miles on it, this should not be happening and a claim was opened up to resolve this issue.

    I unfortunately have already expereinced this process with another manufacturer so I have a idea what I am in for but I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience dealing with Hyundai in this way. Thanks for any info.
  • killerkkillerk Member Posts: 55
    First of all Happy New Year to everyone!

    I know this is an open ended question but when should I think about changing the front brake pads for my Sonata? I was just in for an oil change (@ 20K) but forgot to ask them to check my brakes. I want to save myself from an(unnecessary) trip to the dealer if I could wait till next oil change @ 25K. FYI, I don't ride my brakes & don't feel anything unusual w/ the braking. Thx.
  • harry31harry31 Member Posts: 128
    >First of all Happy New Year to everyone!
    >I know this is an open ended question but
    >when should I think about changing the
    >front brake pads for my Sonata?
    >===============

    Happy New Year to you! =;-) This may sound kinda simplistic but why don't you pull the front wheels and take a look at your brake pads? In fact - you may be able to crawl under and see the pads well enough, without removing the wheels!
  • nato1nato1 Member Posts: 102
    I got my '02 sonata from rt2 hyundai in leominster mass.


    http://www.rte2hyundai.com/


    The warranty was $700 for the Sonata. Ryan was the salesman. I got the price by pitching 2 dealers against each other. The other dealership was Nashua Hyundai in New Hampshire.

  • dtownfbdtownfb Member Posts: 2,918
    It looks like you got it headed in the right direction by filing a claim with Hyundai. Make sure you have everything documented. You may want to talk to the service manager again to get as much information as possible from him. Meaning do your best to get him on your side. It seems like you have a good relationship with him. You may need him to "go to bat" for you.

    good luck.
  • hjr2hjr2 Member Posts: 105
    to the dude with Hyudnai repair problems, call them p, they'll give ya number to someone to complain to. ALso, will give ya a claims number, and you them you have problems they won't ifx, and you want to set up an appointment with the District factory Representative.

    You should get a call shortly from the dealership about an appointment time and date...the guy usually comes around to the dealerships once every month or so in his area. If you have a good one, it should take 10 seconds to get things going.
  • hyundaimahyundaima Member Posts: 197
    Would you mind telling us the dealer's name? Your car's idle speed is not adjustable. They might have been friendly to you, but it's obvious to me that they thought they could get away with such a nonsense That speaks volumes about their character.
  • cajunboycajunboy Member Posts: 4
    A week has passed with no contact from the dealer and it seems that the car is in a real bad mood cause it gave me quite the scare this weekend. I was driving over a hilly pass and my when I applied the brakes, my foot was meet with resistance. It felt like I was driving on very out of balance tires.

    I placed a second call to Hyundai cause I have not heard from my dealership (Doten Automotive in Richmond California). They were disappointed that the car was not already at the dealership and instructed me to contact the dealer asap.

    When I contacted the dealer, I was told the the district rep was at the dealership last week and my case was discussed. The service writer told me that I was not called because they are adivsed to be very careful in what is said since there is an open claim. I am to expect a call within the next day or so.

    In answer to the question about adjusting the idle, it is adjustable from the mechanical standpoint (mine was) but there is the on board computer that attempts to interpret the change. On my car the computer has decided the adjustment is not needed and has made it so the change never took place.
  • hyundaimahyundaima Member Posts: 197
    I didn't ask a question about adjusting idle speed... if you believe that BS, then I got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
  • kimster2kimster2 Member Posts: 1
    has anyone found a rear wing that will fit the 2002 sonata?? hyundai tells me they have not heard anything yet about a spolier and some local auto stores are telling me they cannot fit a wing onto my car due to the slope of the trunk. any suggestions?? do you think the wing from the tiburon will fit- looks like a similar slope.
  • cajunboycajunboy Member Posts: 4
    Sorry hyundaima, I misunderstood your post and as for believing that 'BS', right now everything associated with Hyundai is 'BS'.

    It has been determined that all 2001 Sonatas with 4 cyl. have a bad vibration at least according to the service manager of my dealership. That statement is backed by the district tech people. According to Hyundai, the service manager along with the district tech people have the final say. That means that they want to close the claim.

    I spoke with Hyundai and let them know that this is unsatisfactory and they are very close to losing a faithful customer. They will hand it over to the regional people. I can't say as I am surprised by what is taken place.

    My plan is to keep after Hyundai even if that means getting the BBB involved. In the meantime, I will have to drive the sunroof popping, brake vibrating, idle shaking car.
  • luxyluxy Member Posts: 4
    As Hyundai does not issue any official max speed or 0-60 numbers I was just wondering has any of you new sonata owners tested max speed or acceleration in tiptronic mode... On forum at t-h-o someone wrote he got it to 60 under 9 secs. Is that true? I mean, most of the review sites got more than 9.5 secs. Thanks in advance.
  • stratus78stratus78 Member Posts: 16
    Hi, Could someone please explain the function of the wind deflector? Is it true that it deflects wind and makes the flow inside the cabin less turbulent when the sunroof is open? If its not that big a deal, I don't want it and would like to remove it from my list of options (to prevent it from spoiling the smooth exterior lines of the car).
  • astrolastrol Member Posts: 312
    Go with the deflector. It makes a BIG difference if you like to use the roof a lot in good weather.
    Conversations are normal and there is no internal buffeting unless bizarre winds are involved. You will get used to the lines of the car with it on.
  • astrolastrol Member Posts: 312
    I got my '00 GLS 2.5L V-6 automatic to 60 in 8.884 sec. but that was one of several track runs and would not likely be easily repeated on the street with the best of conditions. Figure on a consistent 9 sec. for the new 2.7L. I don't know about the +'s or -'s of the tiptronic action in such a run as mine is not a tippy although I routinely use the normal shift gate anyway.
  • riezriez Member Posts: 2,361
    The February 2002 issue of Car & Driver has a one-page Short Take review of the 2002 Sonata GLS. Their 2.7L V-6 with 4-speed automatic recorded a 0-60 time of 8.8 seconds with a 16.7 second quarter mile at 85 mph, plus a 125 mph drag limited top speed. That was a reduction from the 9.5 seconds achieved in their earlier test of 1999 Sonata GLS 2.5L V-6 with 4-speed automatic.
  • stratus78stratus78 Member Posts: 16
    Thanks for the info.

    I just test drove a base version with package 6. It drove well. I started it cold from the dealer lot when outside temp was mid-30s. When merging into the highway, I did notice that the tranny remained in 2nd gear a little longer and RPMs increased before shifting to 3rd. I am not sure if this is the shifting problem that everyone has been discussing in the 'problems' message board. I hope this is not an annoying problem.

    Also how is $18500 for a GLS V6 with package 6?
  • luxyluxy Member Posts: 4
    thanks for your info.
    that would pretty much put things into perspective. i have a '96 sonata 2.0 with manual tranny and was able to get it to 60 in less than 9.5 secs so review numbers just didn't make sence.

    i was also wondering about shiftronic mode (my experience with auto trannies is none - european syndrome i guess). when you switch to it do you have complete control of shifting or computer interferes anyways? what impact does it have on performance and does it come close to manual tranny?
    thanks in advance.
  • astrolastrol Member Posts: 312
    Sorry I didn't flesh out the Tippy info. This one is derived from the Porsche licensed Tippy for the XG 300/350. I don't know why there should be the 2-3 shift problem unless it (the delayed shift) is an attempt to mimic the cold shifting patterns of other trannys which do not go into overdrive until operating temps are nominal. Those will hold 3rd no matter what but the 2-3 should not have any slippage by design. It sounds to me like a torque converter problem with the shift timing or the ECT programming. Hyundai should get on this pronto. They have had plenty of feedback by now.
    The Hyundai Tippy is like all others. You cannot violate RPM programming parameters with any shift. I like the Tippy concept in autos as it does make it easier for auto shifters, like myself, to work the gears for better vehicle attitude and road placement.

    Stratus78---is that a no-dicker dealer price or what you consider reasonable price? I would run the Edmunds #'s and shoot for TMV.
  • stratus78stratus78 Member Posts: 16
    Hi,

    It looks like one of the sales persons in the dealership quoted $18573 over the net for the wrong vehicle. I had asked for a GLS V6 with Package 6. Anyway the sales man I talked to said that since they had already quoted me 18.5K they would honor it. TMV is 18K. The dealer quoted an out the door price of 20013 (18573+ 1200 (tax) + 180 (license) + 60 (Dock fees ? - could be documentation). What do you guys think of this price?
  • astrolastrol Member Posts: 312
    It sounds high to me but a lot of factors go into pricing any specific car. I don't know what the supply is generally in your area. Mine is still kinda tight. I got my wife's '00 GLS w/pkg 13 ('02 LX w/pkg6) for $19816 out the door but that factored in a $1K rebate. Depends on how much you want the car. Whatever you spend, just realize that's what you're willing to pay and don't beat yourself up later over a couple hundred dollars.
  • manholemanhole Member Posts: 5
    stratus, it is still a bit high, even though the dealer had originally quoted on a different model. The price for the exact same car you are talking about at carsdirect.com is $17,867, so you may want to check them out.
  • stratus78stratus78 Member Posts: 16
    Yup, I realized it is a little high. I just got a completely different quote from another dealer for an LX for around 19K (taxes extra). How does this sound?

    Also I am not able to make up my mind between the Ardor blue or the ruby red. I 've seen the red and it looks good. However its been my life time ambition to get a metallic dark blue car. I don't know how dark the ardor blue is. The website doesnt give much of an idea. I guess I will have to visit dealer lots looking for a blue one.
  • manholemanhole Member Posts: 5
    About pricing, you need to tell "them" the price, don't let them quote you. Make sure they know that you understand how the pricing works, and present them with the TMV price. Even if the dealer sells the car at invoice, they are still making money from the dealer holdback, so offer them something like $100-200 above invoice, and don't budge.

    About the ardor blue, that is the color I will most likely get. It's not really too dark like you're saying, and it's not metallic, but it looks very very nice on the Sonata. Nice enough to make my mind up :)
  • netranger4netranger4 Member Posts: 149
    Just came back from the Detroit Auto Show. The Hyundai display (very close to GM on the show floor)was packed. Many favorable comments being made, especially on pricing.

    The quality of the show cars was excellent. One shopper mentioned that there were small holes in the headlight and taillight lenses. Someone else explained that it was to keep the lenses from fogging.

    The display was very large and had several of each model for inspection. Last year, Hyundai was in another display hall, this year it was right up there with Ford/GM/Daimler-Chrysler. What a difference a year makes.
  • zmoneyzmoney Member Posts: 6
    I just purchased a Hyundai Sonata 2002 XL for $18,999. What do you think about the price? Was it fair deal? The dealer said that these cars are so popular that I might have to wait approximately 4-6 weeks.
  • sambojohosambojoho Member Posts: 14
    I got my 02 LX for $19,395. What options did yours have? Mine came with Moonroof, wind deflector, ABS/TCS, mud guards, and floor mats. The price was invoice + adv. fee + $350 markup. Of course my black car was pulled right out of the showroom floor when I bought it...
  • zmoneyzmoney Member Posts: 6
    I received the same options. So, how do you like your car? Are you staisfied?
    Which state did you purchase it in? The insurance here in NYC in crazy.
  • tnjackietnjackie Member Posts: 19
    Does anyone own a 02 4 cylinder Sonata with automatic? How do you like the car? What kind of mileage are you getting? I live in Memphis, TN and am thinking of either an Elantra or a Sonata and would like to know what I should pay for it with or without moonroof. Could someone share with me the price I should offer? I have looked on Edmunds to get the pricing, but still am not sure what to offer without paying too much. My negotiating skills are not too good. Also what mileage are you getting? What they quoted? Thanks for sharing.
  • csandstecsandste Member Posts: 1,866
    I think the '02's have risen by $100. (advertised, not list price) I couldn't get below their advertised price plus all upgrades at Edmund's dealer's costs. I purchased the car last July in metro St. Louis.

    If I was considering a Sonata I'd probably shop the Optima as well. The '01's were decontented and more expensive than the Sonata, but I think that's been changed for '02. They seem to be in less demand so the dealers might be more desparate. I drove '01 Sonatas and Optimas and thought the Optimas had a slightly firmer suspension, although I've never read this and it's probably my imagination. I drove them several months apart.

    All nice cars but the Elantra is real sweet for the money.
  • hjr2hjr2 Member Posts: 105
    wouldn't have paid more than $17,599 for LX with everything minus abs. Why? I read that the car is about $500 LESS than my 1999 gls-v6 sonata loaded with everything minus abs. We paid $al. most 18grand
    Oh,sorry I'd pay about $17,500...that is with(?) the $1000 Hyundai cash back for Loyalty buyer.
    Sounds ok.
  • mattdrewmattdrew Member Posts: 1
    I bought a 4cyl 02 Sonata in September. It has the automatic. The options on the car were rear wheel discs with 4-wheel ABS and the sunroof. I paid $15,990 (after the $1000 rebate) for the car plus $349 dealer processing. The buying experience was very positive and I was done with the whole deal in 45 minutes. I have taken one "road" trip with the car and I pulled 32mpg out of it staying between 65-70mph with the cruise on. The dealer has a pretty good web site and you can view their inventory and prices. It is www.hallauto.com. Hope this helps.
  • waxywaxy Member Posts: 8
    So I've happily owned a 2001 Sonata for almost 6 months now without a problem - great car -except one. For the 2nd time, the Engine Warning Light on the dashboard has come on in steady state and - no matter how many times I put the gas cap off and on - the light stays on. Followed the same procedure last time but the dealer still said "it's your gas cap - not screwed on properly". Any advice on how to treat this situation? Is there anything else I should be checking? I'm sure the dealer will put things right but, frankly, I've got better things to do than spend big chunks of time getting them to repair trivial problems.

    Thanks, Waxy
  • tonykrapiltonykrapil Member Posts: 211
    I have two Hyundai and both of mine DO NOT have the gas cap tether on them. They never did. I never knew they are even supposed to come with one. Many foks here on the forum have this cap tether and once the warning light problem starts, I have heard that the dealer may remove the tether.

    Maybe this is something to look into.

    Tony
  • csandstecsandste Member Posts: 1,866
    took it back to the dealer after the light came on after my first fill up-- even though I tightened to three clicks. Goodbye tether.
  • astrolastrol Member Posts: 312
    It may be an O2 sensor.There are a myriad of things that can make that little buggery light shine.
  • dougndodougndo Member Posts: 136
    This "check engine" thing seems to be almost out of hand, don't you think? We see it in a lot of Hyundai forums, and not just on Edmunds. I know it caused a real panic for my girlfriend in her 2001 Tibby the first time it happened. It took two trips to the dealer to learn the secret of the gas cap. In fact, it happens so frequently among Hyundais that I know, that it causes some drivers to look at "check engine" as an unimportant event, and we all know that there may come a time when "check engine" means SHUT DOWN AND CHECK IT NOW OR YOU"RE SCREWED. Unfortunately, the frequency of the light coming on for the irritating gas cap syndrome lessens the impact of the light itself.

    I think it would be great if there were a separate "check gas cap" light, since that seems to be the #1 cause of "check engine" being lit. Think about it: to the average owner, checking the gas cap is the furthest thing, both intellectually and physically, from looking helplessly into the engine compartment, yet it's a very common cause.

    Despite the fact that the information about the relationship between tightening the gas cap properly and the "check engine" light is obliquely buried in the owner's manual, many owners don't remember all those little things, and looking up "check engine" in the index won't take you to the relevant info.

    Yes, yes, I know there are a lot of technical and practical reasons why a separate light is not feasible, so please don't lecture me. On the other hand, when the average driver sees "check engine" come on, it inspires real dread at first, then they learn to disregard it. When the gas cap is such a likely culprit on Hyundais, it'd be nice to lower that fear factor with a more relevant warning. I can dream, can't I?
  • mikewesqmikewesq Member Posts: 32
    I have found that with my XG300L, if I push in on the gas cap while screwing it back in, it seems to make a better seal, and this seems to avoid the check engine light coming on. Just turning the cap several clicks won't do.
  • riezriez Member Posts: 2,361
    Don't be too hard on Hyundai. Us BMW owners have to be very careful when refuelling. Our Check Engine Light will come on if you don't reseal the cap properly or if you fill up with the key in the ignition in the ON position. Issue routinely discussed on BMW boards and in BMW publications. I fuel my wife's 323iA 'cause she has a bad habit of refuelling with engine on so she can listen to radio. Guess it is all tied to EPA Green Fascists!
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