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Pontiac Bonneville



  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Chuck - I see quite a few rental units around - always an SE model. And I do typically see several new gen Bonnevilles every week around here - funny, it seems like they travel in packs - usually see one - then another.

    Had a great ride to and from work today in my carpool buddy's (almost) new 2001 Saab 9.5 that he bought last week. He paid $22K for a car that listed new 6 months and 8K miles ago for $36K. What a fantastic car!!!! I had looked at them but never rode in one before - amazingly smooth and responsive, quiet and the most comfortable seats I've ever sat in. Both front and rear seats are heated, upholstered in very nice leather with power adjustments on both buckets. I was VERY impressed. Anyone else ever check one of these out??

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 6,271
    How did he get it so cheap? Do they typically take that kind of big depreciation hit?

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • fantascpfantascp Posts: 175
    They MUST be all up by you then!!!(LOL)- case in point-I just went this entire work week without seeing ONE OTHER 2000 to 2002 Bonneville
    anywhere from Morning rush hour 6:30 am to 8:30am and from 4:30pm to 6:30 PM,-evening rush.
    and this is traveling along major highways here - Interstate 80,280,287.

    I'm also curious with regards to your friends 9.5 SAAB- a $14,000 drop in 6 months- that is a BIG depreciation over a very short period of time - is that the norm for those vehicles? or did your friend get a fantastic price on the car when he purchased it.

  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    Some kids have all the luck. I think my dad thought that he'd get a nose bleed if he went over 65. Then again, it would have been pretty tough to get a full size station wagon with a very small V-8 airborne unless it was driven over a cliff.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    ab348 and Chuck - We have a local used car superstore in my area where my buddy picked up his Saab 9.5 base model. It seems to be an incredible deal and from what I've seen from some checking around it is a price approximately equal to what the dealer might have paid at the auction for that car. I wondered of it had perhaps been a theft recovery or something like that but he says the title is good per CARFAX and it was titled to the state of Maine - go figure.

    Does sound like extraordinary depreciation for that car but I know my Bonneville took a $10K hit before I bought it under similar circumstances - 6 months old and with 18K miles over a year ago now. Just goes to show - buying new is VERY expensive and the used market today has some spectacular bargains if you look around for a while.

  • pturner1pturner1 Posts: 33
    I always park away from population when I stop in for a cocktail at the Hadley, Ma Mall. When I came out, to my surprise, a 2000+ silver Bonneville SE had backed into the space next to me and next to it was a 2000+ Grand Prix. It's been a while, but every now and then....
    2000 SSEi 55500 miles
    Dark Blue Matallic
  • xavier64xavier64 Posts: 76
    Just read the spin around town article. In it they state that they think there are too many buttons and don't like the red gauges. In my opinion, I think the red gauges are great especially glowing at night and having all the different gauges sure beats one filled with "idiot" lights. To people who see the car for the first time, they like the design of the Bonnie. To each, their own I suppose.

    The article does point out the good ride and seat comfort and I would think this is what most people are looking for.

    Drive safe and let's hope for an early spring...sxb
  • scrajscraj Posts: 10
    All, Checking into the board after a gap of 2 years. I bought this car in 1996 with around 6000 miles. Some shark demo... made for someone in san jose sharks team to drive around for a few months for advertisement i guess. It is of the TEAL color.. Sparkling green with little shade of purple. (The same color as the bonny tested by EDMUNDS in 1996). Guess Mr. Wardlaw did not like(hated) this color.. but, me and my wife love this.

    And, the car has been going on and on and on for 75000 miles now. Still runs great. Had a problem with some vacum leak around 35000 miles. Was fixed. Changed tires and brakes at 60000 miles. As of today everything works fine. The 3.8L supercharged V6 is an abundance joy to drive. You have power whenever you need it. No disappointment any time. Highway mileage around 26 to 29. City is around 22. The compressor for the tire inflator and beach craft inflator died at around 55000 miles. Used it way too much i guess. Atleast once a week.

    Other than the vacum leak and the compressor dieing, the vehicle still runs great. Really love it.
  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    Your experience with your 96 mirrors what I had with my 96. Even though I didn't have the supercharger (on that one at least), I had no problems with that car in 70,000 miles. In fact, I literally didn't spend a dime on it for repairs, just routine maintenance like oil changes and wiper blades.
  • scottnsc1scottnsc1 Posts: 16
    My 2001 Bonneville SE has been a real joy so far. My heart still longs for an Envoy, but I know it wouldn't be as much fun to drive.

    During my recent 15K mile service they put it up on the rack to rotate the tires. When I got back to work I noticed that the front passenger side fender had 'seperated' from the car with about a one inch gap. After recovering from my heart attack I took it back in. They said the service tech didn't lift the car from the correct place on the frame and that had placed stress on the body panels forcing it to seperate from the car. It's fixed now and looks as good as new, but that will be the last time that dealership touches my car.

    They also continue to 'torque' my wheels off which ruins the black plastic lug-nut covers. I'm riding around with 3 of them missing until I get a chance to get them replaced. (This is the second time.)

    I was a little disappointed with the Edmunds article, but not surprised. American cars just simply do not get enough respect by auto journalists. They save their praises for the Germans and Japanese.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    A milestone event!!
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Is anyone else affected by this problem? The scroll-up feature and the 'Go to' post # feature don't work

    Hello Edmunds Hosts - Is there a software problem here???
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    tpken, something must be going on. When I hit "Read Subscriptions", I now get the whole page and not just the unread messages.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Yes. It was indeed.

    However, at this moment things are working correctly for me, so maybe they have fixed it. Let's hope so.

    Sedans Message Board
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
  • mlm4mlm4 Posts: 401
    I love/hate these things. They look better than bare lug nuts, but the technicians always forget to remove them BY HAND before going at the actual lug nut with the air wrench. Duh! The dealer already lost one of mine, I had to go back and make them give me a new one (they tried to blame it on a "broken" plastic part). Even though it seems ridiculous to have to do this, I think maybe next time I'll take them off myself before the dealer touches it. That way, they can't ruin or lose any! (I used to do this with my '82 Bonneville wagon -- they would ruin the wire wheel covers with their mallets and pry bars.)
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Going to have to get my Aquatreads rotated soon - perhaps tomorrow. Guess I'll pull off the caps first since I've also lost a couple. I had replacements put on back in December when I bought the tires but they seem to disappear.

    BTW - there are some who would suggest I am missing more than a few caps!

  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    Your talk of dealers and removing and taking off tires reminded me of one of my pet peeves, that of service technicians almost universally reinstalling tires without using a torque wrench or stick, just letting the old impact gun wail away on the lug nuts.
    I changed a tire for a friend of ours last week and I would estimate that it took 200 lb ft to get the lug nuts off. In addition to running the risk of ruining the rotors, it probably eliminates virtually all women and more than a few men from being able to change a tire if needed. It only took my back 3-4 days to recover.
    When I rotate my tires, I look it up in the manual and set my torque wrench for that setting.
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    You may be missing more than a few caps; you're nuts! :)
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    It appears to be a go for the G/XP. Of course, who can say BUT they are supposed to hit the showrooms in about a year's time. With the continued decline of the sales of the Bonneville, it really looks bleak for its future. Perhaps the sleeker lines will give it a boost. Although, a sleeker Bonneville does beg the question as to why GM needs to have the LeSabre as well.

    Ward's Auto World

    I hope this link works - not much there though (except my source of the latest news). Look up the G/XP article under "Ward's Wrapup"

    Ciao, ice

  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    I thought of you today when I posted in italics in #2509 above. I actually pulled out your Email which explained how to do it. Thanks again.
    It's ironic that you posted today. Do you have a link to any other articles and/or pictures of the G/XP? I would consider one in May 2003.
  • enormusenormus Posts: 3
    I'm very excited by the announcement that Pontiac will most likely produce the G/XP. In the meantime, I'm thinking of tuning my 2000 SSEi with some of the same equipment used on the G/XP. I had already installed a K&N drop in filter right after I bought the car. Now I have a desire to put on some performance brake pads and some slotted rotors. I am thinking of going with Baer and EradiSpeed. Anyone have any experience with this? I realize this question would be better in the Modifications group, but there isn't much activity there.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Stephen - here's a link that Dan posted earlier for pics of the Bonneville as well as Grand Prix. There are better pics around - I'll have to find them again and post here.

  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    I do remember checking out Dan's links last time he posted. I wish he'd become a regular here again. If you can find more links to pictures of the GX/P, please post.
  • sixxersixxer Posts: 36
    G'day all!

    Has anyone taken on the task of changing the foglight on a 2000 SE? Mine has burnt, but I'm still trying to figure out how to remove the light so I can see which bulb I need. Any ideas on removal, and the bulb number?

    Lovin my Bonneville!
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Chuck - you been there yet?
  • fantascpfantascp Posts: 175
    Stan,Ken- sorry, can't help here- have not had to replace the bulbs.

    Stan- if its not in the owners manual- try going to MYGMLINKS.COM- they have a lot of useful info
    on service etc after your register your pontiac.

  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    Stephen: Here's a link with the biggest pictures of the GXP I was able to find: It has a difficult interface but I was able to download the pics (made copies from my cache). It's worth the trouble as the pix are big enough that you can actually see the holes in the rotors! I'd say get 'em fast while the getting's good.

    I'd have to say that all this talk about the G/XP has me putting off any mods to my Bonnie or even buying an SSEi. I'd rather sink my money into the '03 G/XP. Call me a lunatic but this is just what GM has to do - get some buzz going and give (some of) us a reason to at least dream about trading in earlier than common sense tells us we should. Same thing about bringing over the Holden Monaro as a Pontiac GTO. Here are two cars that are going to create some buzz for Pontiac - and with very little effort. I say bravo Mr. Lutz.

    Stan: my first fog burnout just happened the other month - mine's still under warranty though so I let the dealer take care of it.

    I'm up to 20k miles on the '00 SLE now and very few issues. One of two interior squeaks (on each of the front doors) disappeared on its own and the other after an application of some leather lubricant. Very little spent so far on maintenance (except Mobil 1 every 3000 miles) and still on the original RSA's. I'm impressed enough that I might get the car similarly re-shod when this autumn rolls around. Only quirk? A light in the stereo unit burnt out. No probs because it's under warranty but I was stunned to learn that they replace the entire unit - not just the light! That's gotta cost somebody something! That notwithstanding, this is one of the nicest, most trouble-free rides I have had in many many years.

    I'll be back I'm sure gang. Don't keep a light on for me though - I have my own key >:)

  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Wow - that's enough to get anyone's pulse racing!

    I'd like to see it in a more colorful hue - this looks like blue-gray. I'd like to see a garnet red or forest green.


    P.S. - I really do appreciate the lack of cladding and superfluous touches - they really took it down to it's most elegant look.
  • twobrownstwobrowns Posts: 52
    I have a 2001 ssei with 33000 miles. Up to recently it used little oil between oil changes(3000 miles). However it is now using about 1 Qt in 2500 miles which is not excessive but this change for no apparent reason! No oil leaks etc. Any thoughts?
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