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Pontiac Bonneville
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I hope the last few produced were GXP models.
CYA
Mike
As to the rattle, here is the language on my paperwork:
Problem: There is a tapping type of noise coming from the roof area behind drivers head, seems to be worse after driving a while like tempearature affects it, Bryan can duplicate the noise by pushing on the headliner
Cause: Misaligned
B2720 Checked for tapping and found headliner around sunroof loose, correctly installed and test drove, is OK at this time
507 WB40
FC: 3A Part #: Count: 0 (N/C)
Claim Type:
Auth Code:
NY
Don't know exactly what the codes above mean, but perhaps your servicing dealer will? Anyway, hope you can get it resolved, and enjoy your ride--the care simply brings a smile to my face every time I drive it. Enjoy!
Say more about the ceramic brake pads. The brake dust on the front wheels gets kind of annoying.
Bill
I have the same problem with excessive brake dust on the front wheels of my '05 GXP. What did you do to get the dealer to replace the pads with ceramic. I need to address this issue with my dealer.
JaxJohn
i have a 01 se with a trans at goes in gear hard......... any help would be great
Must say the car is very fast at highway speeds, with the new pully it has a forward thrust like a V8. The handling is great, very safe car in the rain. However, after owning two sedans from Japan, a 97 maxima GXE stick shift and a 96 Acura TL 3.2, the SSEI is a big disappointment. The reliability of that car compared to the cars from Nissan or Acura is horrible. Yes it is faster, handles better, and more enjoyable, but at 75,000 miles, I have had it with this car. I don't think it is a lemon just a typical GM car. Two back windows stopped working, passenger side heated seat stopped working, oil pressure gauge does not work, fuel gauge does not work, had both front wheel hubs replaced at 56,000 miles. The Maxima I sold at 130,000 miles never had to service it, other than oil change. The Acura I sold at 104,000 miles and besides oil change had to do a drive belt service at 90,000 miles. So to see that your car has never been in the shop very lucky man.
Mike
Now, if I can just get the rattle in by Aurora's sunroof taken care of--it has been fine for over a year now, but it's back with a vengence. Funny thing with that car is that when the sunshade is open, no rattle.
Hope you enjoy many many happy miles with your GXP--I know I am. :shades:
"getting what you pay for" when you buy and expensive car, I countered, then someone mentioned the Cadillac Catera and its Catera Arguement Time! Well, from the looks of it it seems to be turing to pushrods vs. other engines.
Well, back to the frontline...reinforcements?!?
Hopefully some automotive scribe out there will compile a tribute to the Bonneville, some nice fat, comprehensive glossy color tome with lots of historical photos and behind-the-scenes tidbits. I'd be among the first in line to buy a copy.
And maybe -- perhaps -- in 20 years someone will cruise Woodward Avenue in a 2005 GXP and it will kindle fonder memories of the Bonneville's legacy.
I think that part of the reason the Bonne died was because of the failure of the GXP version. I looked at the Bonne GXP when it first arrived at a local dealer. I liked most everything about it, except:
1) It was not (and did not feel) ‘quick’.
2) The EPA mileage ratings (largely due to the 3.7:1 final drive.
So – I waited – and recently bought a Grand Prix GXP.
If the Bonne have been & felt as quick as my GP GXP, and posted (even close to) similar EPA mileage ratings, then I’d likely have purchased one . . . 17 / 24 with acceleration numbers like 0-60 in 6.9 and the Quarter in 15.4 at 91 (C+D) just did not impress me.
[ For comparison: The C+D numbers for the Grand Prix GXP are 5.7 and 14.3 at 98. That is a sufficient difference that is obvious to those attuned . . ]
I really like Torque. Great, steaming piles of low speed Torque. And low RPM at cruise.
And I am still curious, now that the Bonne is out of production, if Pontiac will explore an ‘upmarket’ interior for the GP. I’d have seriously considered options like a power tilt & telescope steering wheel, cooled as well as heated front seats, a rear seat center armrest, etc.
Or perhaps Pontiac will be the next GM Division that is ‘sacrificed’. . .
[Swing and a miss – strike 3 for the Bonne . . ]
Not that 1 sale would ever revive or kill a Model, but it does help.
- Ray
Happy GM customer – at least for now . .
The Zeta-based RWD G8 was supposed to take the place of the Bonnie and uplevel Grand Prix models (the G6 was to handle the lower Grand Prix models), but, as we all know, it got canceled. Too bad, it would have been a great car. Picture this with the twin Pontiac kidney grilles, and there's your G8:
Current Aussie Wheels Magazine cover
I was going to check my Intrigue's service manual to troubleshoot it, but I was wondering if anyone's had the same issue.
TIA
Jeff
Thanks!
Part number for the repair kit is 25730797. List price is $105.26 but can be had for much less from an internet parts supplier. According to the bulletin the labor is about 1.3 hours per seat and this doesn't look like a do-it-yourself job either so the repair will be expensive. Good luck.
Thaks
Mike
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Mike
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
The person who did the brake job probably used a standard brake pad for long llife. Use an OEM to keep the same brake feel the original car had. My 98 had Raybestos replacements on it. They made the pedal harder. When I put Bendix on, there was more grab and pedal didn't need as much pressure. Your rear brakes are pads also aren't they?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
thanks Mike
Thanks Mike
A few weeks later, a tire got damaged on the side wall and I decided to bite the bullet and get a new set, hopefully eliminating the vibration with a brand other than GY and avoiding damaging the bushings and shocks in the long term.
I tried Continental Conti Premier Contact and besides being less grippy than the OE GY, they didn't balance either! :sick: After a week, the tire dealer decided to replace one tire, which I'm still waiting for.
I'm leaning towards returning the Continental tires and trying perhaps Michelin or even Pirelli. Someone has said that the MXV4+ are no good either, but perhaps the Pilot are. What model specifically for the 255/55R17 size?
TIA
In their place, I'm getting Michelin MXV4+, a total premium of $100, which I hope will be rounder than both.
According to Tire Rack, the Michelin should fare slightly lower than the Continental, and this, although quieter and smoother, cornered worse and had lower dry traction than the OEM GY.
The guy at the tire store was intrigued that the vibration was more evident when pulling instead of coasting, hinting at something else wrong with the car. But given that many had this problem and took their cars to be looked at, I guess that it's pretty certain that it's the tires to fault. Or so I hope... :sick:
So far it has worked well. I am currently deployed in the Middle East, so the GXP's been sitting in the garage for the last 11 months (except for once a month when my wife is allowed to drive her). When I was home on leave in February there was a little rust, but it was rust that had leached from the friction surface, and it wiped off easily. When I get home I'm going to do the same thing with her GP GTP, as it has a little rust on it also.
Joe
Mike
The tires are OK, with competent cornering and grip. They definitely excel at ride and noise comfort. I haven't pushed their capabilities on wet pavement, but they inspired confidence. As the cold weather approaches, I'll see how it deals with less than perfect pavement conditions.
However, they do vibrate more noticeably for the first couple of miles until they warm up. Of course, not as a pronouncedly as the Continental Conti Premier Contact which wobbled like an amusement park ride. If they did, they'd be sent back to Michelin like those were sent back to Continental.
I've read posts here and there that suggest that this happens to other cars outside of GM's orbit too, including to some hyped German cars. In the future, I'll try to stay away from 17" rims...
Thanks....sxb