Volkswagen Jetta 2005 and earlier

Anakin

Unfortunately that's one of VW's "rolling changes." The new 1.8T Jettas are also supposed to come with the Euro 4-Motion valence under the front bumper. I didn't get either of these things with my 2002 that I bought in September. :^(

I was wondering, however, if I were to be involved in an accident, and my muffler were damaged, would VW replace it with one of the new ones with chrome tips? (Not that I'm planning to wreck it or anything )

moparbad

I know that the 174HP VR6 in GLS/GLX ended production around 1 November. I believe that the GLS VR6 with the 5 speed tiptronic should be available at dealers now or soon. Odd thing about Jetta is that the Wagon will continue to use the 174 HP VR6.

vocus

When was your Jetta built? Mine was in 9/2001, and I have the 1.8T with chrome tips. I also have the Sport Luxury Pkg., so maybe the two go hand in hand or something? Not sure.

Warranty: You are going to pay $720 for an extra 10K of warranty? If you have a 2001, I guess that would be a good deal. But us 2002 owners have 50K of warranty standard. If you are going to get an extended warranty, I would go for the max mileage limit. Makes more sense, and will net you more at trade-in time.

vocus

Any car can have problems when new. Get ovcer it and take the dive. I had a Protege before, and went to the Jetta. Believe me, you will be very happy with the decision. I know I am.

newcar31

It's too late now. I'd take a huge hit, and have to buy a car that is much more expensive. My current loan is 0% for 48 months from Mazda American Credit. I doubt VW would do that for me.

"Any car can have problems when new." That's true, but the Jetta has more quirks on average than a Protege. To be honest, I really don't have any time to be taking a new car into the dealership for things, otherwise I wouldn't care. With that being said, I still think the Jetta is a cool car, especially the new 2002 24V VR6s and the new 180hp 1.8Ts.

blackjetta18t1

my cousin has a 02 1.8T with sport lux and he doesn't have the tips, he got the car fresh off the boat in August. Can you get a pic of the exhaust for me?

vocus

Black: I will get a friend to take a pic of my tips for me and scan them. Also, they don't really stick out that far from under the bumper. Do the ones you are talking about stick way out?

Newcar: VW currently has 0.9% financing for like 48 months I think. Check vw.com for more info. You would be paying more for the car, but it might be worth it to you. It was to me, and we had the same kind of car (I had an 01 Protege ES auto.). I did take a huge hit though, because Proteges don't seem to hold their value well. That was the only bad point of the trade for me. Also, I had a couple minor problems with my Protege and Jetta alike, so it's not that bad. And VW service is A LOT better than Mazda's in my experience. At least they give you a loaner car (at least my dealership does) when you are in for warranty work.

blackjetta18t1

thanks man, um, I was considering for a while getting the exhaust tips VW offers for the Beetle/Jetta but they always seemed to hand really far down and looked like they were going to scrape the ground. Does your bumper have the cut out for the tips or is it like other jettas?

venus537

"Does your bumper have the cut out for the tips or is it like other jettas?" YES, the ones I saw at the dealership had a cut out. They looked good. Hope you don't mind me answering the question for vocus.

newcar31

Loaner cars are part of Mazda's warranty. If the car is going to be in overnight, the Mazda dealer is supposed to offer you a free loaner.

Although Mazdas don't have the best resale value, *anyone* who trades any 8 month old car is going to take a huge hit.

I like to nit-pick when it comes to cars. I like my cars perfect, or damn near. Because of this, although I love the Jetta, it isn't the right car for me. This doesn't mean I cannot admire it however.

justin

Vocus:

Yea, yea, whatever, the manual recommends 93 for the turbo. Who cares....;) 89 does the trick for me just fine. My old VR6 automatic NEVER once got over 20 mpgs.

My car was built in 9/01, no sport suspension. I don't have any different front bumper, or chrome tips on my muffler. Personally, chrome tips always look a little too "Fast and the Furious" for me, except on my next car, the TT convertible I guess tips look nice on a dual muffler, dual exhaust car, but not on a sport-economy sedan. Just my opinion.

I don't know what to make of the 8 cylinder Passat. For $40k, you could have any number of M-B's or a nice Saab 9-5, or a TT

newcar31

I wouldn't call the Jetta an "economy sedan". It needs to be *relatively* economical to be considered an economy sedan. Maybe the TDI is an economy sedan, but I wouldn't call a leather lined VR6 or 1.8T "economy".

justin

To me, the Jetta turbo is all about being an economy-sporty sedan. You can get a Turbo Jet for $20k. A loaded Honda Civic can be almost $18k. A Taurus can be had for $20k. An Accord, Camry, etc. But to me, your money is best spent on the Jetta. Standard safety features plus power and efficiency. Makes sound economical sense to me when I look at it that way.

blackjetta18t1

anybody else here not like how VW keeps producing these rolling changes? I really think they should dtop because it's not fair for the people who buy the cars. Like the 2002's were supposed to have std CD, but it was a rolling change in 02 models. Other rolling changes have been exhaust tips, 24v Vr6, side curtain airbags, etc They really screw over people..I dunno, just kinda bugs me although I didn't get affected by them for my model year, I know people who have...o whatev

newcar31

is still $2000 *more* than a loaded Civic which is one of the most expensive "economy" sedans. The Taurus, Accord, and Camry are not "economy" sedans. My 2001 Protege ES is a "sporty" economy sedan. I paid $15,300 for it. Some might even consider that expensive when talking about economy sedans. A $20K entry level turbo Jetta is not economy. It's thousands of dollars more than all real "economy" sedans.

venus537

damn it, start putting 93 octane gas in your jetta. yea, your car runs fine with 89 octane, but you lose performance AND gas mileage. so you're really not saving any money with the loss gas mileage. this great engine deserves only the best. you better watch out for the VW premium gas patrol, they might get a little rough with you.

blackjetta18t1: i see your point. but how would you feel if you were in the market for a jetta now? i wouldn't want to wait until fall for the next model year.

blueguydotcom

Rolling changes somehow hurt you? How is it unfair again? You CHOSE to buy your car when you did. Complaining that a company updated a model after your purchase is pretty silly. Should VW just not update the Jetta ever again because you bought one?

mvs1

the warranty I'm considering is for an additional 36k, meaning 60k total vehicle miles. Although the 02' VWs have a better bumper to bumper of 4/50, the 10/100 power train has been reduced (to I believe 5/60)and the free scheduled maint. has been eliminated, trade offs nothing more.

The "any new car can have problems", "take the dive", comments are very ignorant. For many people an automobile purchase is the second largest purchase, to a home, they'll make in their lives. I for one don't think diving without proper research is a good idea. Yes the Jetta and many other VWs have features other "economy" or mid-size cars don't, but you are your still paying a premium for them.

The rolling changes keep the lines "fresh" it's a company decision/strategy.

While VWs are fun to drive, more so than say a Honda, Toyota, the premium you pay coupled with a lower reliability factor just doesn't sway me into believing VWs are superior or should I say, a superior purchase.

justin

How can you say that Vocus' opinion on the Jetta is ignorant? He had two Proteges, and now a Jetta? I would say he is more than entitled to state how he feels and what he knows without someone judging his thoughts and statements....

Truth be told, the Jetta is truly in a class by itself. Hard to classify it. More features/safety/performance than your typical economy sedan, for a little more money. Yet, a lot less money than the luxury sedans that have the same features/safety.performance. It really is a good buy. When looking at cars, in my opinion, you have to take reliability worries out of the equation. Every car has issues. And trust me, if you intentionally buy a Toyota because you think it will be a reliable car, luck and karma would dictate that the car you bought would be the lemon of the group Buy what feels good, and live with it. All anyone can do!

vocus

Thank you for your comment above. I took the dive and bought a Jetta, because I wanted one badly since they came out in 1999. To that reference, I meant to just do it even though you hear some horror stories about Jettas. Not without doing research. You misunderstood what I said.

The Jetta is alot more car than the Protege ever was to me. It feels alot safer, handles better, accelerates alot quicker (of course, it is a turbo), and has this luxury feeling that the Protege never had, even when brand new.

Newcar: I had problems with the Protege, and the dealer was totally crabby to me. VW gives me a loaner when I take the car in, not when they decide they are gong to keep it overnight. I have had a problem with a rattle, but it's going in Wednesday to be repaired (I found it myself). Also, VW cleans the car up and all that when they service it. I had body work on my 2001 Protege at the dealer, and they didn't even wash it for me! Come on now, what kinda customer service is that? They also gave me a bunch of crap about my radio when it died. VW fixed it right away and even gave me a loaner because my car was only a month old. Cars break, stuff happens to them. It's going to happen. You have had trouble with your Protege already too, but it doesn't stop you from liking it.

newcar31

he is saying that the statement "all cars can have problems" is ignorant. True, all cars can have problems but this is only the half truth. It seems that Jetta owners are always making this statement. I totally agree with MVS1. How can you NOT consider reliability when purchasing something that costs so much. One of the reasons people buy Toyotas is because CHANCES ARE GOOD THAT YOU WILL NOT GET A LEMON. Luck and karma are B.S.

vocus

My statement was misinterpreted though. I took the dive on a Jetta, but only after they improved the warranty (to better than the Protege's that I had), their predicted reliability scores went up, and customer service at the dealer was better (new ownership). And like I said before, every car has problems one time or another. There are problems with Toyotas and sludge, but no one says anything about that when looking at a Toyota. The only car I had more problems with than my 2001 Protege was my 1996 Cavalier (in such a short time, anyway). They were not major problems (warped rotors, which were my fault, power window stuck, radio died, car died once). I still liked the Protege alot though, and would recommend them (and have) to friends, co-workers, etc. as good transportation. And the Protege had all small problems, but it's a pain having to arrange a ride to work and all when the car is in the shop. With VW, when my radio died and I had a rattle, they gave me a loaner right there on the spot. No waiting, no ride to work, no keeping overnight, NOTHING. Mazda would not approve it, even though my car died and left me straded on a Saturday morning, 45 miles from home.

I have had a couple problems with the Jetta thus far, but until major stuff starts happening to the car, I have no reason not to recommend and like it.

blueguydotcom

<<I have had a couple problems with the Jetta thus far, but until major stuff starts happening to the car, I have no reason not to recommend and like it. >>

That's just odd to me. I can't in good conscience recommend a car that's had problems.

mvs1

vocus, if your statement was misinterpreted then I apologize. The take a dive, go for it comments took me aback. My main problem with the comments made in general on this and other VW product boards is that the argument is always made between the VWs being fun to drive as opposed to a Honda or Toyota. The fun to drive factor doesn't make VW exempt from building a reliable and "trouble" free vehicle. I happen to own a car from all three brands (VW, Honda, Toyota) and can say, from my experience the VW is the worst when it comes to reliability. Although it has never "broke" down on me when driving, it has not started before, just recently I might add after being parked. Road side assistance was called as I thought a light may have been left on and killed the battery. It seems that wasn't the case and after it being at the VW dealer for an entire day (no loaner provided) they couldn't find the problem. As far as the service I received it left a lot to be desired. I had basically two different people telling me two different things about the vehicle. Then the service one person said would be performed the other didn't have done and knew nothing about. I "Never" received that treatment at the Lexus dealer (and please no comments about the price of the vehicle compared to a VW), service regardless of make/model should be top notch. Which brings me to my next point if VW thinks they can sell a $40k car and the service I've received at three separate dealers is typical, their in for a major surprise.

blackjetta18t1

there ya go being harsh again. I'm not trying to piss anyone off. I just feel that when VW says, or any manufacturer for that, says something will be available for a certain time, then it should. If they say CD will be standard for 2002, then it should, when someone goes in to buy the car, and sees they are paying for CD when it is supposed to be std. for 02, then its a pain for the buyer, and the salesmen who's got to explain why the customer is getting shafted. As I had said, the rolling changes did not effect me for the model year I got, because every change that occured for 2001, my car had. However others may not be that lucky. If a car company is going to add features, equipment, etc to the car and they say 2002, 2003 or whatever, it should be just that, the very first model of that year should come off the line with that equipment, not 63rd car of the 3rd quarter of 2002. It's a pain for those who go in to buy the car and find out they have to wait to get it, or pay for it. I don't want to cause trouble, just expressing an opinion. Don't want to piss anyone off, but Blue, you alwyas gotta get harsh....and that't funny cause I've actually agreed with you on a "few" of your complaints.But again, no trouble...

justin

Seriously -

Does everyone realize that we are discussing VW's and Toyotas? None of these are expensive enough to really worry about that much. These are all normal cars. Everyone can have one. I don't know where everyone else is from, but my Jetta is definitely not the second largest purchase in my life. And as such, I don't treat it or think of it that way. I had a choice with my $22k. An Accord, Camry, Jetta Turbo, etc etc. I picked the best car for the money If it goes in the shop, so be it

Buy what you like. Hope it doens't break. If it does, get it fixed. There really is not much more to it than that. Seriously. Research..sure..but those are OTHER peoples positive and negative experiences. Yours could (and probably will be) totally different.

If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times. If you don't like the car you have, get another one. It seems like their are people out there that seem to talk a lot about VW's and how bad they are. I don't understand - if you don't like it - get rid of it! Then there are those that have all these major opinions on VW's, and they don't even own one. How can you know how crappy the VW is? Let me guess - Consumer Reports? Blah, blah. I notice that lots of people really like VW's, but just don't have the "you knows whats" to live life and "dive in" and buy the darn thing.

vocus

I have to agree with you on adding stuff in the middle of the production cycle. That does suck. I wanted the 4Motion rear valance, but don't have it. Yet other people who have the same car at the same sticker price do have it. That's not fair. I don't think I have the pipes you all were talking about either, because mine don't come out past the bumper. They are chrome though. I still have to take a pic of them, when it stops snowing here.

When I went to get my Jetta, I wasn't going to get Monsoon or Sport Luxury Pkg. They tried to tell me the CD player would be $325, I told them hell no I was not paying $325 for that to be installed when it's going to be standard on a later 2002 model. They got snippy, but guess what? I found my 2002 and it had the CD player in it. Then I told the dealer I knew more about his product than he did. He felt bad, and he should have because I was right about his product more than he was. I ended up getting the Sport Luxury Pkg. in white with Monsoon instead of the Luxury Pkg. and standard radio in Blue Lagoon, only because I didn't wanna come back and have the CD player put in, I liked the look of the 17-inch wheels, and I liked the sound of the Monsoon.

And with the 2001 models, some didn't have curtain airbags. That's bullcrap to change in the middle of a production year.

vocus

I cannot agree more with what you said. Theoretically, a car purchase (monetarily) is the second largest purchase you will make. I spend more time in my car than I do in my home, because of work and going places all the time. That's why I traded an almost-new Protege for the Jetta. Every time I get in the car, I am glad I did trade too.

Also, my mother used to always say how she wanted a new car, to go on vacation, etc. She passed away in her sleep at 53 years old and didn't get to do any of it, after working hard all her life. That totally taught me to live for the day. If I want something and it's within my means, I am going to get it. I don't wanna end up like that, working hard for nothing all my life.

vocus

Talking about "jumping on it" and buying the car you want, you all know how I got my Jetta? I went grocery shopping one Saturday, and rode past the VW dealer. I saw a beautiful Blue Lagoon Jetta GLX wagon at the front, and it sparked my interest for the new 1.8T sedan. So I went in, drove the car I have now, and said right there I wanted to take it home with me. So I came home with trunk load of groceries in a new car. Talk about spontaneous..

tpremjee

I'm with my second Jetta now. Bought the first one in 96 and the second in 2000. I never regreted either purchase. I did regret the using the first dealer though. Bastards! But the cars are awesome machines. My current VR6 actually had a serious problem where the computer died a week after i bought it and the car would not start. VW took care of everything and gave me a loaner. The car has worked beautifully ever since. With a bumper to bumper warranty - you really have little to worry about in terms of reliability.

As for cleaning the car etc....that depends from dealer to dealer. I have found a dealer that I like. They treat me fairly, and they have decent, well intentioned people working there - not the usual slime. They don't wash my car, but I never feel ripped off when I leave their lot. So my recommendation is that you buy the car you like at a dealer that someone recommends because they have had good experiences with that dealer.

VWs are good cars. And maintenance costs a whole lot less than with BMWs. That's a good reason to buy a VW instead of a more expensive Beamer. This is the same philosophy that Toyota owners use. Nothing wrong with Toyotas. They're just butt ugly and plain vanilla.

Later.
T.

blueguydotcom

You have a choice. You pay for the car you get then. This notion that it's "unfair" to change a product from week to week is beyond ludicrous.

They're in business to make money, not make sure that whiners feel their car is a mirror to every other VW built that year.

I got a 2001 1.8T in June. With that car came side airbags and no rear cupholders. Did I care? Not really. Was I cheated? No. I got EXACTLY the car I paid for at that time. Had I been promised cupholders and then got home to discover they weren't there, I might be peeved but that's because I was promised something that wasn't there.

mvs1

You guys defend your purchase of a VW by refuting Consumer reports and research materials of the like. A car for many is not the 2nd largest purchase they'll make? Whoa, I really need to hang around this board awhile. The logic in here needs improvement. Let's see, buy what you like, hope it doesn't break, if it does fix it??? If you don't like the car you have get another one.

Hmmmm let's see, Of course you should buy what kind of vehicle you like(within your budget), hope it doesn't break....ok, fix it, definetly or else you won't be driving it. And then after you realize your "dive in" purchase has caused enough headaches, spend more $$$ for a different car.

This is the type of argument I'm referring to. Criticizing and/or refuting the unsolicited information provided to assist you in any purchase is plain stupid. Yes, VW makes a very "fun" to drive vehicle. If it was out of the shop more frequently for me to enjoy it I'd like it even more. If the service was better and VW enforced this I'd be a loyal customer for years to come. Yes, they get away with poor quality because they don't sell a $40k vehicle, yet.

As far as the argument made pertaining to rolling changes. If you are unaware of these changes, consider yourself uninformed. If you are unhappy w/ VWs strategy, make it know in writing.

Do you honestly believe a car manufacturer shouldn't make a better product? Changes of any kind rolling or otherwise are great for consumers.

Lastly, if you know anything about BMWs business strategy you would also know that the, "VWs are less expensive than BMWs" is a ridiculous statement in of itself, of course they are along with all other car makes.

browntrout1

To my understanding, it is the dealership that offers loaner cars and not the Manufacturer. Dealers are like 3 week old milk...chances are, they've gone bad!! ALL makes of cars have good and bad dealers. It just depends on which one you go to and unfortunatly, you will find out they are a bad dealer after you sign for the car!! Usually more expensive cars brands have better service but when you are coughing up 40 grand for a car, they better get it right!!

On another note, I'd have to disagree with the Jetta being a better handling car than a Protege. If we are talking ride comfort, than yes, it is better buy all means but as far as grip, road feel, and sheer tossablility...I would have to say that a Protege is superior. I've driven both. Jetta is too softly sprung and is much heavier and rolls alot even with the sport suspension. It all depends if you like a soft cushy ride or a stiffer sporty ride when comparing these 2 cars.

browntrout1

I really don't think to many BMW buyers are siting at home thinking...Hmmm, maybe I should have bought the Passat or the Jetta. It's like a Jetta or Golf buyer cross shopping with an Hyundai Accent or a Lada. Anyone who can afford a new BMW can afford to service it, trust me.

venus537

"The logic in here needs improvement"

from my experience, this isn't unique to this board. mr spock would be raising his eyebrow many times from many topics.

by the way, CR now recommends the jetta. it may not be up to honda or toyoya standards for reliability, but its now pretty good.

i like the rolling changes. i sure wouldn't want to wait until the fall to get all the improvements.

vocus: you do have the chrome tips. if you didn't, the pipes would be curved downward and you would have to get really down there to see them.

vocus

The tips are chrome, but I have to stand like 5 steps behind the car (without bending down) to see them. They curve down. But I can see them from the back of the car.

vocus

Your logic is not going to change this board. Just because you think one way about something, doesn't mean everyone has to think that same way. That's the beauty of America. You can think what you want and voice it.

mvs1

by all means is a good thing. If another poster corrects and/or brings up a good point I would not refute his findings. As I have been following the VW and Audi boards along with others, I've found that the persons often try to defend their purchase with arguments pertaining to the "drive" of the vehicle, the standard features, which mind you, you are still paying for, and analogies to it being a cheaper BMW. And choose to ignore the short comings of this or any car. It's in the manufacturers best interest to address any problems that consumers are having. With the recent popularity of VWs I'd really like to see down the road how many repeat customers VW has. Again, an individuals priorities vary, high on my list would be reliability, all though others may be able to tolerate this, I can not.

Quick question for all VW owners, do you know which factory your VW was built. I believe there are three total Mexico, Brazil, and Germany? I'm just curious to see if there's any correlation between specific problems and the factory that a vehicle is being built.

target3

I have seen many postings regarding reliability - maybe I am fortunate. I have logged about 300,000 miles on an 86 Golf and an 88 Jetta (still running). These cars run great, and I beat the heck out of them. Of course, it also helps to have a dealer who will tell you to fix certain things yourself because they are easy, rather than charge the dough to rip you off.

I plan on getting one of the new 201hp 6's when they come out this summer. Does anyone have any recommendations on Tiptronic vs. Manual? I have driven only manuals so far, but recently test drove a 1.8t. It was nice to leave my right arm on the armrest and just hit the gas. However, I would guess that an automatic would have a greater probability of reliability problems.

vocus

I heard the ones from Wolfsburg were less troulbe-prone, but there are people in the Golf forum with problems, and all those come from Wolfsburg.

Mine came from Mexico I think, but not sure off the top of my head. I have had 2 rattles to date, and have 5700 miles in 2 months on a 2002 Jetta 1.8T.

mvs1

target3, your personal experience isn't out of the norm. A gentleman I work with had a Golf (around the same year as yours) and in 10 years only replaced a clutch cable.

You can tell which factory it came from by the VIN #, don't remember off the top of my head which letters denote the factory.

justin

Again, the MOST logical argument/solution is: If you don't like the car - don't buy one. If you have the car, and you are unhappy, it is not working out for you - get rid of it. It really cannot get any easier than that. Really. I promise. I know.

As far as ignoring short comings - those are all opinions. Someones idea of a short coming in the car might be exactly what another person likes about it. And again, if there is a problem, what is the point of dragging it out and trying to make other people, who actually like their cars, feel bad for having a nice car that they like?? I guess I just don't understand the point of the complaints and some of the topics and posts. What do they accomplish? What is the goal?

From what I can tell, the Mexican built cars are built just as well (or not well to some people here) as the German built VW's.

justin

what does everyone use on their dash for cleaning? i don't want anything that leaves a shiny finish - i want the car to look stock - not altered. anyone recommend a good dusting/cleaning product for that textured dashtop area?

blackjetta18t1

all jettas are made in mexico exceot for the jetta wagn, the passat is made in germany , and i think golfs are in brazil, but not positive. the beetles, and cabrios are in mexico also, the D1/Phaeton in Germany,these are for the North/American market, not Europe.

vocus

Just wipe it down with a slightly damp cloth. That always works for me. I hate Armor-All too. It reflects into the windshield badly and gives me a headache.

I have this little knock-ish sound in the front end of my car when turning cold sometimes. It sounds like the strut, but service said they checked everything and it was ok. I am going to ask again on Friday for them to look again. I have an appt. for them to fix the one rattle I have left. So that will definitely be cool.

newcar31

What do posts about complaints and shortcomings accomplish? Remember, this board is for everyone, including prospective buyers. After reading this board, other boards, and other publications, I decided not to get a Jetta. I got the BMW 7 series I was cross shopping instead even though I really liked the Jetta.....Just kidding. Don't get me wrong, I didn't base my decision soley on the posts from edmunds, but those posts were part of my decision. There are horror stories on every board, but there are more of them on the Jetta board. Shortcomings like rattles and window regulators that nobody would consider a good thing. The thing that really turned me off, is that some of these "shortcomings" were never adressed by VW. How can so many cars have window regulator problems for more than one model year? That is what it accomplished for me and I am grateful for forums like these. I really, really wanted a Jetta too. Oh well.

moparbad

I certainly do not know if the quality of Wolfsburg is better than Mexico, or if Brazil is better or worse than Mexico but I do know that the MAF sensor and the window regulators fail on VW's no matter where they are manufactured.

Jetta - Mexico

Jetta Wagon - Germany

Passat Sedan and Wagon - Germany

Cabrio - Mexico

Eurovan - Germany

Golf and GTI - Brazil since early 2001 and Germany 1999.5 to early 2001.

New Beetle - Mexico

here is an interesting article about start of NB production. http://www.findarticles.com/m3012/n5_v178/20748449/p1/article.jhtml

If anyone is looking at a VW and wants to know where it was manufacture then check the VIN- 1 = US, 3 = Mexico, 9 = Brazil, W = Germany. If you want a further breakdown then look at this link

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/6773/84vin.html

Many people refer to Consumer Reports when stating reliability is poor with VW, CR uses survey to determine reliability and I suspect that is room for error in their methods. CR does rate Golf reliability higher than Jetta reliability, does this mean the quality of assembly is higher in Brazil? I don't know. If everyone had as negative an opinion of VW as blueguy then VW would be out of business and if everyone had as great an experience with VW as I have had then they would drive nothing but VW. The truth is likely that VW is an average reliability car below Toyota and above Chrysler.

vwguild

PMC is only a fee or code depending upon the car,
except for 2.0L Engines where there are additional OBD components...

mvs1

That's a brilliant answer to the should I buy a Jetta question. Yeah, go ahead, then if you have problems just go buy Something else! It's that simple! Really! I promise! I know!

Posting boards such as these are again meant to inform, share knowledge, experiences, and misc. questions that current owners can answer.

Please, provide an example of a short coming to a vehicle that another person adores.

mabubba

Hey all,

Can anyone give me any info on the reliability of the TDI Jettas? Do they keep the great mileage over time? Also, when did the '02 model year VWs(jettas) start arriving at dealers? I just went to my local VW dealer and all they had were '01s. Thanks